former windows 7 boot manager still showing
Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx -- Alain --- Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 17 x64 MySQL 5.5.28 Apache 2.4.3 / OpenSSL 1.0.1c Tomcat 7.17 PHP 5.4.8 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query-606489/ Make sure you don't delete data you do not want to lose. You do have a backup of your important data right? Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
Hi Patrick, in fact i can delete everything on this HDD as i formatted it...backup was done before :) i just found also something similar. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 where /dev/sda should be replaced by my HDD value. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx http://www.linuxquestions.org/**questions/linux-newbie-8/** using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-**query-606489/http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query-606489/ Make sure you don't delete data you do not want to lose. You do have a backup of your important data right? Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Alain --- Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 17 x64 MySQL 5.5.28 Apache 2.4.3 / OpenSSL 1.0.1c Tomcat 7.17 PHP 5.4.8 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) any other idea than dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 ? i also tried with bs=512, but still not successfull :( On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Raf Roger raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, in fact i can delete everything on this HDD as i formatted it...backup was done before :) i just found also something similar. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 where /dev/sda should be replaced by my HDD value. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx http://www.linuxquestions.org/**questions/linux-newbie-8/** using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-**query-606489/http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query-606489/ Make sure you don't delete data you do not want to lose. You do have a backup of your important data right? Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Alain --- Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 17 x64 MySQL 5.5.28 Apache 2.4.3 / OpenSSL 1.0.1c Tomcat 7.17 PHP 5.4.8 -- Alain --- Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 17 x64 MySQL 5.5.28 Apache 2.4.3 / OpenSSL 1.0.1c Tomcat 7.17 PHP 5.4.8 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On 01/30/13 12:11, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) any other idea than dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 ? i also tried with bs=512, but still not successfull :( On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Raf Roger raf.n...@gmail.com mailto:raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, in fact i can delete everything on this HDD as i formatted it...backup was done before :) i just found also something similar. |dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1| where /dev/sda should be replaced by my HDD value. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl mailto:fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx http://www.linuxquestions.org/__questions/linux-newbie-8/__using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-__query-606489/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query-606489/ Make sure you don't delete data you do not want to lose. You do have a backup of your important data right? Regards, Patrick snip Raf, Please don't top post, it makes it difficult to follow the thread. Next, do you happen to have a 2nd hard drive in the machine you are trying to boot (perhaps that has the Windows boot loader on it?)? How big is the drive you are trying to dd? Try any one of these to get to a non-bootable drive: To wipe just the MBR: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=1 To wipe all of track zero: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=63 Zero out the entire drive: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo You'll need to replace foo with the appropriate device (hda, sda, etc). Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/30/13 12:11, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) any other idea than dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 ? i also tried with bs=512, but still not successfull :( On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Raf Roger raf.n...@gmail.com mailto: raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, in fact i can delete everything on this HDD as i formatted it...backup was done before :) i just found also something similar. |dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1| where /dev/sda should be replaced by my HDD value. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl mailto:fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx http://www.linuxquestions.org/__questions/linux-newbie-8/__using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-__query-606489/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query-606489/ Make sure you don't delete data you do not want to lose. You do have a backup of your important data right? Regards, Patrick snip Raf, Please don't top post, it makes it difficult to follow the thread. Next, do you happen to have a 2nd hard drive in the machine you are trying to boot (perhaps that has the Windows boot loader on it?)? How big is the drive you are trying to dd? Try any one of these to get to a non-bootable drive: To wipe just the MBR: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=1 To wipe all of track zero: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=63 Zero out the entire drive: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo You'll need to replace foo with the appropriate device (hda, sda, etc). Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Sorry Kevin, top post is a standard behavior of gmail :( so sorry for that. on that computer i have 6 HDD...all others are windows formatted HDD but none has a boot... but in former windows 7 my actual SDB was as first HDD in disk manager, so with ID=0.. now it has ID=1 (so as 2nd HDD), but still not bootable. in fact none should have a boot manager as my REAL former C:\ drive has crashed and therefore i replace it with the one i have now as SDA :) I hope it is clearer :-/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Raf Roger raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/30/13 12:11, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) any other idea than dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 ? i also tried with bs=512, but still not successfull :( On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Raf Roger raf.n...@gmail.com mailto: raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, in fact i can delete everything on this HDD as i formatted it...backup was done before :) i just found also something similar. |dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1| where /dev/sda should be replaced by my HDD value. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl mailto:fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx http://www.linuxquestions.org/__questions/linux-newbie-8/__using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-__query-606489/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query-606489/ Make sure you don't delete data you do not want to lose. You do have a backup of your important data right? Regards, Patrick snip Raf, Please don't top post, it makes it difficult to follow the thread. Next, do you happen to have a 2nd hard drive in the machine you are trying to boot (perhaps that has the Windows boot loader on it?)? How big is the drive you are trying to dd? Try any one of these to get to a non-bootable drive: To wipe just the MBR: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=1 To wipe all of track zero: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=63 Zero out the entire drive: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo You'll need to replace foo with the appropriate device (hda, sda, etc). Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Sorry Kevin, top post is a standard behavior of gmail :( so sorry for that. on that computer i have 6 HDD...all others are windows formatted HDD but none has a boot... but in former windows 7 my actual SDB was as first HDD in disk manager, so with ID=0.. now it has ID=1 (so as 2nd HDD), but still not bootable. in fact none should have a boot manager as my REAL former C:\ drive has crashed and therefore i replace it with the one i have now as SDA :) I hope it is clearer :-/ I just forgot to tell you that HDD i'm trying to dd is a 250GB HDD, so a small one -- Alain --- Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 17 x64 MySQL 5.5.28 Apache 2.4.3 / OpenSSL 1.0.1c Tomcat 7.17 PHP 5.4.8 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) When you installed, where did you have it put grub? It sounds as though you didn't put it in the MBR, or if you tried, it didn't work. Maybe you need to have grub re-install itself and make sure, this time, that you specify the right place. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raf, Please don't top post, it makes it difficult to follow the thread. Next, do you happen to have a 2nd hard drive in the machine you are trying to boot (perhaps that has the Windows boot loader on it?)? How big is the drive you are trying to dd? Try any one of these to get to a non-bootable drive: To wipe just the MBR: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=1 Just remember - this will delete the partition table as well, so you may want to write down the partition table data before doing this! To wipe all of track zero: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=512 count=63 Zero out the entire drive: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo You'll need to replace foo with the appropriate device (hda, sda, etc). Kevin Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEJb8QACgkQqbQrVW3JyMTNjQCdFLSgySfYQCzYnHy4lpKtB/FL cj4AniGji53b7zWJQ5lIvSr88SPpKjAq =0ANe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 01:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) When you installed, where did you have it put grub? It sounds as though you didn't put it in the MBR, or if you tried, it didn't work. Maybe you need to have grub re-install itself and make sure, this time, that you specify the right place. One other thing to keep in mind - the BIOS may be set to boot from the wrong drive. This is especially true with some of the smart BIOSs. They keep tract of what disk you had selected to boot from, and boots from that drive. Another gotchya is that the drive order may be different when booting from a DVD/CD/USB drive then when booting from the hard drive. So /dev/sda may not be your boot drive when you select booting from the hard drive. You can usually reset this in the BIOS... Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEJcSIACgkQqbQrVW3JyMSDEwCfQOmC20HQrg2a3+eCulN/e+mS EfMAoIWQ0y+2GIwyXObNrtudlaJgusCH =aZHx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On 01/30/2013 10:55 AM, Raf Roger wrote: [SNIP!] but in former windows 7 my actual SDB was as first HDD in disk manager, so with ID=0.. now it has ID=1 (so as 2nd HDD), but still not bootable. in fact none should have a boot manager as my REAL former C:\ drive has crashed and therefore i replace it with the one i have now as SDA :) Try disconnecting all your drives except for the one you want to boot from and see what happens. If it still doesn't boot, try having grub re-install itself as I suggested before. If it does, there may be something odd about another drive. (Remember: Windows cares about which partition is marked as bootable, but no other OS gives a hoot. Using gpartd, or something similar to make sure that your older drives have nothing marked as bootable can't hurt.) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson mellert...@gmail.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 01:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) When you installed, where did you have it put grub? It sounds as though you didn't put it in the MBR, or if you tried, it didn't work. Maybe you need to have grub re-install itself and make sure, this time, that you specify the right place. One other thing to keep in mind - the BIOS may be set to boot from the wrong drive. This is especially true with some of the smart BIOSs. They keep tract of what disk you had selected to boot from, and boots from that drive. Another gotchya is that the drive order may be different when booting from a DVD/CD/USB drive then when booting from the hard drive. So /dev/sda may not be your boot drive when you select booting from the hard drive. You can usually reset this in the BIOS... Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEJcSIACgkQqbQrVW3JyMSDEwCfQOmC20HQrg2a3+eCulN/e+mS EfMAoIWQ0y+2GIwyXObNrtudlaJgusCH =aZHx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hello Mikkel, so i will try to answer to everything in order :-) 1. after disconnecting all other HDD, and boot on the HDD i formatted, everything seems ok and computer requests me a booting device... so i discovered that i have a HDD that includes a boot sector...my D:\ drive... so i need to remove Windows Boot Manager from this one but without deleting or losing any data as i have backups on this drive. someone could confirm me that for that i need to type dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=446 count=1 i REALLY do not want to loose data from this HDD :-( 2. in the bios, my first HDD to boot is the one i want to install Linux :-) 3. in bios the first device to boot on is CD/DVD, USB key and HDD i have no CD/DVD except Linux one, and no usb HDD/key connected so no prob :-) I hope i did not forget any question. Al. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Raf Roger raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson mellert...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 01:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) When you installed, where did you have it put grub? It sounds as though you didn't put it in the MBR, or if you tried, it didn't work. Maybe you need to have grub re-install itself and make sure, this time, that you specify the right place. One other thing to keep in mind - the BIOS may be set to boot from the wrong drive. This is especially true with some of the smart BIOSs. They keep tract of what disk you had selected to boot from, and boots from that drive. Another gotchya is that the drive order may be different when booting from a DVD/CD/USB drive then when booting from the hard drive. So /dev/sda may not be your boot drive when you select booting from the hard drive. You can usually reset this in the BIOS... Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEJcSIACgkQqbQrVW3JyMSDEwCfQOmC20HQrg2a3+eCulN/e+mS EfMAoIWQ0y+2GIwyXObNrtudlaJgusCH =aZHx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hello Mikkel, so i will try to answer to everything in order :-) 1. after disconnecting all other HDD, and boot on the HDD i formatted, everything seems ok and computer requests me a booting device... so i discovered that i have a HDD that includes a boot sector...my D:\ drive... so i need to remove Windows Boot Manager from this one but without deleting or losing any data as i have backups on this drive. someone could confirm me that for that i need to type dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=446 count=1 i REALLY do not want to loose data from this HDD :-( 2. in the bios, my first HDD to boot is the one i want to install Linux :-) 3. in bios the first device to boot on is CD/DVD, USB key and HDD i have no CD/DVD except Linux one, and no usb HDD/key connected so no prob :-) I hope i did not forget any question. Al. so i just drop a line here to tell that gparted helped me to remove the flag boot on this bad HDD and now my problem is solved. Great thx to all of you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 01:15 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/30/2013 10:55 AM, Raf Roger wrote: [SNIP!] but in former windows 7 my actual SDB was as first HDD in disk manager, so with ID=0.. now it has ID=1 (so as 2nd HDD), but still not bootable. in fact none should have a boot manager as my REAL former C:\ drive has crashed and therefore i replace it with the one i have now as SDA :) Try disconnecting all your drives except for the one you want to boot from and see what happens. If it still doesn't boot, try having grub re-install itself as I suggested before. If it does, there may be something odd about another drive. (Remember: Windows cares about which partition is marked as bootable, but no other OS gives a hoot. Using gpartd, or something similar to make sure that your older drives have nothing marked as bootable can't hurt.) While other OSs do not care, the BIOS may care. Some BIOS will not boot at all if there isn't a partition marked as bootable. Also, it may boot from the drive with the bootable partition regardless of the boot order. Systems not wanting to boot with a partition marked as bootable has come up on the list many times in the past. Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAlEJtoQACgkQqbQrVW3JyMTZ3wCYn6yGP1uhLA6XkrIwgNz8x6P7 bgCffpOM3bxCtLd80+HAgFX/OQj4wKY= =CTU9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
On 01/30/2013 04:10 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: While other OSs do not care, the BIOS may care. Some BIOS will not boot at all if there isn't a partition marked as bootable. Also, it may boot from the drive with the bootable partition regardless of the boot order. Systems not wanting to boot with a partition marked as bootable has come up on the list many times in the past. There's nothing wrong with having the Linux /boot partition marked as bootable if it makes the BIOS happy. I was just pointing out that Linux won't care. Right now, my desktop's main drive still has an old Win98 partition that I've kept because it's easier than copying off whatever I'm going to need and hoping that I haven't forgotten anything important. The Win98 partition I don't use is marked bootable, rather than the Linux /boot partition I've been using for about seven years or so. If your BIOS wants it, or it makes you feel better, by all means mark Linux as bootable; just understand that the OS itself doesn't need it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing
fdisk -l /dev/sda Determine REAL block size. Then use that size for dd.
Some disks are VERY picky about how block zero is written. (One Quantum hard
disks were particularly annoying in this regard.)
Then use dd to blank the first megabyte of the disk, ideally starting at
block 1.
Make sure your BIOS does not have boot protection turned on.
{^_^}
On 2013/01/30 10:11, Raf Roger wrote:
i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead
of having system not found (which is the typicall message when boot sector is
not found in windows)
any other idea than dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 ? i also tried
with bs=512, but still not successfull :(
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Raf Roger raf.n...@gmail.com
mailto:raf.n...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Patrick,
in fact i can delete everything on this HDD as i formatted it...backup was
done before :)
i just found also something similar.
|dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1|
where /dev/sda should be replaced by my HDD value.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Lists
fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl mailto:fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl
wrote:
On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote:
Hi,
i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order
to
install new fedora 18.
however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but
still
on former windows boot manager.
How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ?
thx
http://www.linuxquestions.org/__questions/linux-newbie-8/__using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-__query-606489/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/using-dd-to-zero-the-mbr-query-606489/
Make sure you don't delete data you do not want to lose. You do have a
backup of your important data right?
Regards,
Patrick
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