Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-05-03 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/2/20 9:47 PM, Tim via users wrote:
>> On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 11:50 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>>> Or just type your password, which causes the lock screen to
>>> go away and the password input to be filled in.  Having to
>>> manually do anything first is more of an annoyance to me.
>> 
>> I would temper that advice with a bit of caution, *start* typing your
>> password.  Be sure not to hit enter before you see something to show
>> that you're typing your password into a password box.
>> 
>> If a system has crashed, you could be typing your password into a
>> "enter username" box.  Your password is now logged in the last users
>> log.
> 
> Or if the screen is just blanked and not locked yet, although in that case
> it *doesn't* lift the shield unless you press ESC or use the mouse.  (The
> keys are just ignored.)  But that's a good point and something I do follow.
> I never hit enter until I see the password box.

Same here.  I was only intending to cover the part about how
to get the lock screen to disappear, but it's absolutely a
good thing to clarify that you don't want to complete the
whole process and hit enter without ensuring you're sending
the text to the passphrase field of the unlock dialog.

Thanks for mentioning and expanding on that important detail
in the overall process Tim and Samuel!

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Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/2/20 9:47 PM, Tim via users wrote:

On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 11:50 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:

Or just type your password, which causes the lock screen to
go away and the password input to be filled in.  Having to
manually do anything first is more of an annoyance to me.


I would temper that advice with a bit of caution, *start* typing your
password.  Be sure not to hit enter before you see something to show
that you're typing your password into a password box.

If a system has crashed, you could be typing your password into a
"enter username" box.  Your password is now logged in the last users
log.


Or if the screen is just blanked and not locked yet, although in that 
case it *doesn't* lift the shield unless you press ESC or use the mouse. 
 (The keys are just ignored.)  But that's a good point and something I 
do follow.  I never hit enter until I see the password box.

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Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-05-02 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 11:50 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Or just type your password, which causes the lock screen to
> go away and the password input to be filled in.  Having to
> manually do anything first is more of an annoyance to me.

I would temper that advice with a bit of caution, *start* typing your
password.  Be sure not to hit enter before you see something to show
that you're typing your password into a password box.

If a system has crashed, you could be typing your password into a
"enter username" box.  Your password is now logged in the last users
log.
 
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Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 May 2020 11:50:16 -0400
Todd Zullinger wrote:

> The added text hint is the new(-ish) part.

It would be nice if that said type your password
instead of type any key :-).
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Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-05-02 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tom Horsley wrote:
> They finally got rid of the "you have to scroll the screen all the
> way up from the bottom" to get out of the lock screen.
> 
> Now it says click or hit any key.
> 
> If you hit a key, it does get you out of the lock screen, but that
> key also winds up being passed to the password entry field as the
> first character of your password, so then you type your actual
> password and get a login error :-).
> 
> Stick to clicking.

Or just type your password, which causes the lock screen to
go away and the password input to be filled in.  Having to
manually do anything first is more of an annoyance to me.

Having been subjected to some Windows 10 systems, the need
to hit a key to get to the password dialog and then typing
my password has caused me the opposite issue far more often.

Muscle memory is different for everyone though.

As Samuel mentioned, it's worked this way for quite a long
time.  The added text hint is the new(-ish) part.

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Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-04-30 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-04-30 at 17:50 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Now it says click or hit any key.
> 
> If you hit a key, it does get you out of the lock screen, but that
> key also winds up being passed to the password entry field as the
> first character of your password, so then you type your actual
> password and get a login error :-).

Long ago I decided that the only "any" key to safely nudge a computer
without inputing any characters, was to tap the shift key.  It tends to
produce the least surprises.

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Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-04-30 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/30/20 2:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

They finally got rid of the "you have to scroll the screen all the
way up from the bottom" to get out of the lock screen.

Now it says click or hit any key.

If you hit a key, it does get you out of the lock screen, but that
key also winds up being passed to the password entry field as the
first character of your password, so then you type your actual
password and get a login error :-).

Stick to clicking.


I guess the message is a new thing, but it's worked like that for a long 
time.  You can either press the ESC key to scroll it up or just start 
typing your password.  I've only had to drag it up a couple of times 
when something wasn't working.

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minor gnome annoyance

2020-04-30 Thread Tom Horsley
They finally got rid of the "you have to scroll the screen all the
way up from the bottom" to get out of the lock screen.

Now it says click or hit any key.

If you hit a key, it does get you out of the lock screen, but that
key also winds up being passed to the password entry field as the
first character of your password, so then you type your actual
password and get a login error :-).

Stick to clicking.
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