Re: unable to access localhost

2020-11-13 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:56:53 -0800
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 11/13/20 2:51 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:21:21 -0800
> > Samuel Sieb  wrote:  
> >> Do you have a smtp server running?
> >> What does "lsof -i tcp:25" show?  
> > 
> > root@webster[7]->lsof -i tcp:25
> > root@webster[8]->
> > 
> > Source of the problem? A service needs restarting? Which service?  
> 
> That depends on what mail server you have installed.  e.g. sendmail
> or postfix.  But you will also need to configure it.
> 
>  From your original email, are you sure you want to be sending it 
> through localhost?  Don't you have a mail server already that you
> could send through?  What does your email client use?

Hmmm  two systems. Both use claws-mail. I used mailx as a simple (I
thought) way of describing the problem. So let's scratch my
"simplification" and restate the problem.

I have two systems, both with up-to-date Fedora 32, both running
claws-mail. Both access the smtp server on hughes.net using port 465.
The 'working' systems logs in and transmits the emailwithout any
problem. The non-working system hangs on the connection until it times
out.

Update: Turns out that the SSL certificate was missing. Why, I have no
idea. My guess it that hughes (email provider) started requiring it
without telling anybody. Sigh!
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Re: unable to access localhost

2020-11-13 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/13/20 2:51 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:21:21 -0800
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

Do you have a smtp server running?
What does "lsof -i tcp:25" show?


root@webster[7]->lsof -i tcp:25
root@webster[8]->

Source of the problem? A service needs restarting? Which service?


That depends on what mail server you have installed.  e.g. sendmail or 
postfix.  But you will also need to configure it.


From your original email, are you sure you want to be sending it 
through localhost?  Don't you have a mail server already that you could 
send through?  What does your email client use?

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Re: unable to access localhost

2020-11-13 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:21:21 -0800
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 11/13/20 1:57 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:13:35 -0500
> > Jonathan Billings  wrote:
> >   
> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:05:46PM -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote:  
> >>>
> >>> System is running up-to-date Fedora 32.
> >>>
> >>> root@webster[3]->mailx  -v -v -s test ge...@hughes.net  >>> Null message body; hope that's ok
> >>> ge...@hughes.net... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
> >>> ge...@hughes.net... Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
> >>>
> >>> Suggestions for cause/diagnosis would be appreciated.  
> >>
> >> I don't believe Fedora installs and configure an MTA listening on
> >> port 25 by default, so mailx deliver mail via the 'sendmail'
> >> executable. 
> > 
> > I should have mentioned that access to localhost works correctly on
> > a similarly-configured system.  
> 
> Do you have a smtp server running?
> What does "lsof -i tcp:25" show?

root@webster[7]->lsof -i tcp:25
root@webster[8]->

Source of the problem? A service needs restarting? Which service?

Thanks.
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Re: unable to access localhost

2020-11-13 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/13/20 1:57 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:13:35 -0500
Jonathan Billings  wrote:


On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:05:46PM -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote:


System is running up-to-date Fedora 32.

root@webster[3]->mailx  -v -v -s test ge...@hughes.net 

I don't believe Fedora installs and configure an MTA listening on port
25 by default, so mailx deliver mail via the 'sendmail' executable.



I should have mentioned that access to localhost works correctly on a
similarly-configured system.


Do you have a smtp server running?
What does "lsof -i tcp:25" show?
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Re: unable to access localhost

2020-11-13 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:13:35 -0500
Jonathan Billings  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:05:46PM -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> >
> > System is running up-to-date Fedora 32. 
> > 
> > root@webster[3]->mailx  -v -v -s test ge...@hughes.net  > Null message body; hope that's ok
> > ge...@hughes.net... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
> > ge...@hughes.net... Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
> > 
> > root@webster[6]->ping 127.0.0.1
> > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.080 ms
> > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.086 ms
> > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.091 ms
> > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.103 ms
> > ^C
> > --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
> > 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3096ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.090/0.103/0.008 ms
> > 
> > Suggestions for cause/diagnosis would be appreciated.  
> 
> I don't believe Fedora installs and configure an MTA listening on port
> 25 by default, so mailx deliver mail via the 'sendmail' executable. 
> 

I should have mentioned that access to localhost works correctly on a
similarly-configured system.
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Re: unable to access localhost

2020-11-13 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:05:46PM -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>
> System is running up-to-date Fedora 32. 
> 
> root@webster[3]->mailx  -v -v -s test ge...@hughes.net  Null message body; hope that's ok
> ge...@hughes.net... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
> ge...@hughes.net... Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
> 
> root@webster[6]->ping 127.0.0.1
> PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.080 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.086 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.091 ms
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.103 ms
> ^C
> --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
> 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3096ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.090/0.103/0.008 ms
> 
> Suggestions for cause/diagnosis would be appreciated.

I don't believe Fedora installs and configure an MTA listening on port
25 by default, so mailx deliver mail via the 'sendmail' executable. 

-- 
Jonathan Billings 
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unable to access localhost

2020-11-13 Thread Geoffrey Leach
System is running up-to-date Fedora 32. 

root@webster[3]->mailx  -v -v -s test ge...@hughes.net ping 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.080 ms
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.086 ms
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.091 ms
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.103 ms
^C
--- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3096ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.090/0.103/0.008 ms

Suggestions for cause/diagnosis would be appreciated.
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