Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008 integration?

2010-02-02 Thread David McWright 
Normally, I haven't had much trouble with #Develop not displaying the
form so long as I limit my edits to InitializeComponent to either
event hookups or properties of the visual elements.  Everything else,
I keep in separate methods or another class altogether and that seems
to keep the designer happy.  That being said, if you put something in
there that shouldn't break the designer, then report it as a bug.  The
folks at #develop are pretty responsive.
Additionally, if you take the code out of #Develop's IDE and try to
run it in IP, then you'll need to import the clr and add references to
the appropriate libraries.  #Develop puts these imports in the
"Program.py" file for your project, so unless you run your form
outside of the IDE by importing "Program.py", the imports are lost.

David

On Feb 2, 7:01 pm, Lukáš Duběda  wrote:
> Ah, nope, it was something else after all.
>
> The SharpCode didn't like anything after the Class
> declaration, for some reason. Whenever I put something
> in there, the designer stops working. As soon as I delete
> it, it works agin.
>
> Might be a bug?
>
> Lukáš Duběda
> Director
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>
> duber studio(tm)
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>
>
> Dino Viehland wrote:
> > Would adding an import System at the top make both the designer and the 
> > code happy?
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
> >> boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Lukáš Dubeda
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:41 PM
> >> To: Discussion of IronPython
> >> Subject: Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython 
> >> VS2008
> >> integration?
>
> >> Thanks a lot for the recommendation,
>
> >> I've installed the SharpCode and it seems quite useful. It presents
> >> a little inconvenience, but I'm not sure if it's my lack of knowledge
> >> or something else, but when I design the UI, the SharpCode puts
> >> the whole path to each of the control:
>
> >> clr.addReference("System.Drawing")
>
> >> insideAClass:
> >> someControl = System.Drawing.etcEtc
>
> >> which IronPython then throws an error on, saying that the "System"
> >> hasn't been declared and thus doesn't exist.
>
> >> I had to remove the whole path from the controls' name in order to
> >> make it run in IronPython. But then the visual designer stopped
> >> working :D as it requires the full path to the controls, for some
> >> reason.
>
> >> Anyways, thanks a lot for the tip!
>
> >> Lukáš Duběda
> >> Director
> >> [T] +420 602 444 164
>
> >> duber studio(tm)
> >> [M] i...@duber.cz
> >> [W]http://www.duber.cz
>
> >> [A] R.A.Dvorského 601, Praha 10
> >> [A] 10900, Czech Republic, Europe
>
> >> Michael Foord wrote:
> >>> On 02/02/2010 21:08, Brian Curtin wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:00, Lukáš Duběda  >>>> <mailto:loo...@duber.cz>> wrote:
>
> >>>>     Hi there everybody,
>
> >>>>     I'd really appretiate if anyone could share their experience
> >>>>     with any good dotNET GUI designer. I'd love to have such
> >>>>     functionality I can get out of QtDesigner, where I visually
> >>>>     design my forms and buttons and what not and then just save
> >>>>     that GUI into a file or generate a usable Python code
> >>>>     out of it for my scripts.
>
> >>>>     And another question, is there any good integration of IronPython
> >>>>     into Visual Studio 2008? Or newer? I'm not a VS user, but since
> >>>>     we can get the VS Express for free, this'd be a valuable tool
> >>>>     for my IronPython programming.
>
> >>>>     Thanks a lot in advnace, cheers,
>
> >>>> I don't have a lot of experience with it, but Sharp Develop
> >>>> (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/) supports IronPython, and
> >>>> may be worth a look. Others have reported success.
>
> >>>> If you do look into Visual Studio, you can write GUI code in C# using
> >>>> the Visual Studio designer, then subclass it from Python code.
>
> >>> This is the approach I usually recommend. The only thing you miss out on
> >>> is hooking up your

Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008 integration?

2010-02-02 Thread Lukáš Duběda 

Ah, nope, it was something else after all.

The SharpCode didn't like anything after the Class
declaration, for some reason. Whenever I put something
in there, the designer stops working. As soon as I delete
it, it works agin.

Might be a bug?

Lukáš Duběda
Director
[T] +420 602 444 164

duber studio(tm)
[M] i...@duber.cz
[W] http://www.duber.cz

[A] R.A.Dvorského 601, Praha 10
[A] 10900, Czech Republic, Europe

Dino Viehland wrote:

Would adding an import System at the top make both the designer and the code 
happy?


-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Lukáš Dubeda
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:41 PM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008
integration?

Thanks a lot for the recommendation,

I've installed the SharpCode and it seems quite useful. It presents
a little inconvenience, but I'm not sure if it's my lack of knowledge
or something else, but when I design the UI, the SharpCode puts
the whole path to each of the control:

clr.addReference("System.Drawing")

insideAClass:
someControl = System.Drawing.etcEtc

which IronPython then throws an error on, saying that the "System"
hasn't been declared and thus doesn't exist.

I had to remove the whole path from the controls' name in order to
make it run in IronPython. But then the visual designer stopped
working :D as it requires the full path to the controls, for some
reason.

Anyways, thanks a lot for the tip!

Lukáš Duběda
Director
[T] +420 602 444 164

duber studio(tm)
[M] i...@duber.cz
[W] http://www.duber.cz

[A] R.A.Dvorského 601, Praha 10
[A] 10900, Czech Republic, Europe

Michael Foord wrote:

On 02/02/2010 21:08, Brian Curtin wrote:

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:00, Lukáš Duběda mailto:loo...@duber.cz>> wrote:

Hi there everybody,

I'd really appretiate if anyone could share their experience
with any good dotNET GUI designer. I'd love to have such
functionality I can get out of QtDesigner, where I visually
design my forms and buttons and what not and then just save
that GUI into a file or generate a usable Python code
out of it for my scripts.

And another question, is there any good integration of IronPython
into Visual Studio 2008? Or newer? I'm not a VS user, but since
we can get the VS Express for free, this'd be a valuable tool
for my IronPython programming.

Thanks a lot in advnace, cheers,

I don't have a lot of experience with it, but Sharp Develop
(http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/) supports IronPython, and
may be worth a look. Others have reported success.

If you do look into Visual Studio, you can write GUI code in C# using
the Visual Studio designer, then subclass it from Python code.


This is the approach I usually recommend. The only thing you miss out on
is hooking up your events from the designer - but if you're doing TDD
then you'll want to write your tests first anyway... :-)

Michael


You can even, with a little modification, design GUIs in C# in Visual
Studio and copy/paste the C# code into a Python file and run with it.
You'll need to convert things like true/false to True/False, null to
None, etc...but with a little effort it works :)


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Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008 integration?

2010-02-02 Thread Dino Viehland 
Would adding an import System at the top make both the designer and the code 
happy?

> -Original Message-
> From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
> boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Lukáš Dubeda
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:41 PM
> To: Discussion of IronPython
> Subject: Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008
> integration?
> 
> Thanks a lot for the recommendation,
> 
> I've installed the SharpCode and it seems quite useful. It presents
> a little inconvenience, but I'm not sure if it's my lack of knowledge
> or something else, but when I design the UI, the SharpCode puts
> the whole path to each of the control:
> 
> clr.addReference("System.Drawing")
> 
> insideAClass:
> someControl = System.Drawing.etcEtc
> 
> which IronPython then throws an error on, saying that the "System"
> hasn't been declared and thus doesn't exist.
> 
> I had to remove the whole path from the controls' name in order to
> make it run in IronPython. But then the visual designer stopped
> working :D as it requires the full path to the controls, for some
> reason.
> 
> Anyways, thanks a lot for the tip!
> 
> Lukáš Duběda
> Director
> [T] +420 602 444 164
> 
> duber studio(tm)
> [M] i...@duber.cz
> [W] http://www.duber.cz
> 
> [A] R.A.Dvorského 601, Praha 10
> [A] 10900, Czech Republic, Europe
> 
> Michael Foord wrote:
> > On 02/02/2010 21:08, Brian Curtin wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:00, Lukáš Duběda  >> <mailto:loo...@duber.cz>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi there everybody,
> >>
> >> I'd really appretiate if anyone could share their experience
> >> with any good dotNET GUI designer. I'd love to have such
> >> functionality I can get out of QtDesigner, where I visually
> >> design my forms and buttons and what not and then just save
> >> that GUI into a file or generate a usable Python code
> >> out of it for my scripts.
> >>
> >> And another question, is there any good integration of IronPython
> >> into Visual Studio 2008? Or newer? I'm not a VS user, but since
> >> we can get the VS Express for free, this'd be a valuable tool
> >> for my IronPython programming.
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot in advnace, cheers,
> >>
> >> I don't have a lot of experience with it, but Sharp Develop
> >> (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/) supports IronPython, and
> >> may be worth a look. Others have reported success.
> >>
> >> If you do look into Visual Studio, you can write GUI code in C# using
> >> the Visual Studio designer, then subclass it from Python code.
> >>
> >
> > This is the approach I usually recommend. The only thing you miss out on
> > is hooking up your events from the designer - but if you're doing TDD
> > then you'll want to write your tests first anyway... :-)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >> You can even, with a little modification, design GUIs in C# in Visual
> >> Studio and copy/paste the C# code into a Python file and run with it.
> >> You'll need to convert things like true/false to True/False, null to
> >> None, etc...but with a little effort it works :)
> >>
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Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008 integration?

2010-02-02 Thread Lukáš Duběda 

Thanks a lot for the recommendation,

I've installed the SharpCode and it seems quite useful. It presents
a little inconvenience, but I'm not sure if it's my lack of knowledge
or something else, but when I design the UI, the SharpCode puts
the whole path to each of the control:

clr.addReference("System.Drawing")

insideAClass:
someControl = System.Drawing.etcEtc

which IronPython then throws an error on, saying that the "System"
hasn't been declared and thus doesn't exist.

I had to remove the whole path from the controls' name in order to
make it run in IronPython. But then the visual designer stopped
working :D as it requires the full path to the controls, for some
reason.

Anyways, thanks a lot for the tip!

Lukáš Duběda
Director
[T] +420 602 444 164

duber studio(tm)
[M] i...@duber.cz
[W] http://www.duber.cz

[A] R.A.Dvorského 601, Praha 10
[A] 10900, Czech Republic, Europe

Michael Foord wrote:

On 02/02/2010 21:08, Brian Curtin wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:00, Lukáš Duběda > wrote:


Hi there everybody,

I'd really appretiate if anyone could share their experience
with any good dotNET GUI designer. I'd love to have such
functionality I can get out of QtDesigner, where I visually
design my forms and buttons and what not and then just save
that GUI into a file or generate a usable Python code
out of it for my scripts.

And another question, is there any good integration of IronPython
into Visual Studio 2008? Or newer? I'm not a VS user, but since
we can get the VS Express for free, this'd be a valuable tool
for my IronPython programming.

Thanks a lot in advnace, cheers,

I don't have a lot of experience with it, but Sharp Develop 
(http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/) supports IronPython, and 
may be worth a look. Others have reported success.


If you do look into Visual Studio, you can write GUI code in C# using 
the Visual Studio designer, then subclass it from Python code.




This is the approach I usually recommend. The only thing you miss out on 
is hooking up your events from the designer - but if you're doing TDD 
then you'll want to write your tests first anyway... :-)


Michael

You can even, with a little modification, design GUIs in C# in Visual 
Studio and copy/paste the C# code into a Python file and run with it. 
You'll need to convert things like true/false to True/False, null to 
None, etc...but with a little effort it works :)



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Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008 integration?

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Foord 

On 02/02/2010 21:08, Brian Curtin wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:00, Lukáš Duběda > wrote:


Hi there everybody,

I'd really appretiate if anyone could share their experience
with any good dotNET GUI designer. I'd love to have such
functionality I can get out of QtDesigner, where I visually
design my forms and buttons and what not and then just save
that GUI into a file or generate a usable Python code
out of it for my scripts.

And another question, is there any good integration of IronPython
into Visual Studio 2008? Or newer? I'm not a VS user, but since
we can get the VS Express for free, this'd be a valuable tool
for my IronPython programming.

Thanks a lot in advnace, cheers,

I don't have a lot of experience with it, but Sharp Develop 
(http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/) supports IronPython, and 
may be worth a look. Others have reported success.


If you do look into Visual Studio, you can write GUI code in C# using 
the Visual Studio designer, then subclass it from Python code.




This is the approach I usually recommend. The only thing you miss out on 
is hooking up your events from the designer - but if you're doing TDD 
then you'll want to write your tests first anyway... :-)


Michael

You can even, with a little modification, design GUIs in C# in Visual 
Studio and copy/paste the C# code into a Python file and run with it. 
You'll need to convert things like true/false to True/False, null to 
None, etc...but with a little effort it works :)



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Re: [IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008 integration?

2010-02-02 Thread Brian Curtin 
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:00, Lukáš Duběda  wrote:

> Hi there everybody,
>
> I'd really appretiate if anyone could share their experience
> with any good dotNET GUI designer. I'd love to have such
> functionality I can get out of QtDesigner, where I visually
> design my forms and buttons and what not and then just save
> that GUI into a file or generate a usable Python code
> out of it for my scripts.
>
> And another question, is there any good integration of IronPython
> into Visual Studio 2008? Or newer? I'm not a VS user, but since
> we can get the VS Express for free, this'd be a valuable tool
> for my IronPython programming.
>
> Thanks a lot in advnace, cheers,
>
> I don't have a lot of experience with it, but Sharp Develop (
http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/) supports IronPython, and may be
worth a look. Others have reported success.

If you do look into Visual Studio, you can write GUI code in C# using the
Visual Studio designer, then subclass it from Python code.

You can even, with a little modification, design GUIs in C# in Visual Studio
and copy/paste the C# code into a Python file and run with it. You'll need
to convert things like true/false to True/False, null to None, etc...but
with a little effort it works :)
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[IronPython] A good dotNET gui designer, plus IronPython VS2008 integration?

2010-02-02 Thread Lukáš Duběda 

Hi there everybody,

I'd really appretiate if anyone could share their experience
with any good dotNET GUI designer. I'd love to have such
functionality I can get out of QtDesigner, where I visually
design my forms and buttons and what not and then just save
that GUI into a file or generate a usable Python code
out of it for my scripts.

And another question, is there any good integration of IronPython
into Visual Studio 2008? Or newer? I'm not a VS user, but since
we can get the VS Express for free, this'd be a valuable tool
for my IronPython programming.

Thanks a lot in advnace, cheers,

--
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Director
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