Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-21 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 23:39, Vernon Cole vernondc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks! That worked great.
 Now here's my first direct contribution.
 see http://ironpython.codeplex.com/workitem/30218 for a version of
 webbrowser.py which actually works on cli.
 (and therefore import antigravity also works.)
 --
 Vernon


I think this would be better suited in the standard library at
svn.python.org, rather than just within IronPython. Thoughts on that? I
haven't followed long enough to know how standard library changes are
usually handled around here, but you'd have to re-apply this change whenever
re-syncing.

As for the change, wouldn't it be cleaner to make a shortcut like windows
= sys.platform in [win32, cli] and then test if windows:?
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-21 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think this would be better suited in the standard library at
 svn.python.org, rather than just within IronPython. Thoughts on that? I
 haven't followed long enough to know how standard library changes are
 usually handled around here, but you'd have to re-apply this change whenever
 re-syncing.

Generally we prefer to remain as close as possible to the CPython
stdlib, but I think the 2.7 stdlib is pretty much frozen at this
point. When switching to the 3.x stdlib, we'll figure out what can be
pushed upstream and what should maybe be IronPython-specific.

I'm hoping that, with 3.2 now out, the process of splitting off the
stdlib can proceed, but I think it's held up by the hg transition as
well. That would be ideal.

 As for the change, wouldn't it be cleaner to make a shortcut like windows
 = sys.platform in [win32, cli] and then test if windows:?

The problem is that just 'cli' != 'windows' - it could be running on
Linux or MacOS via Mono. The best I've found for identifying Windows
is:

sys.platform == 'win32' or (sys.platform == 'cli' and os.name == 'nt')

or, just:

os.name == 'nt'

- Jeff
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-21 Thread Vernon Cole
I agree with all of  you.  I was trying to get something that works in the
default case (no switches, IronPython on Windows).
I am not really equipped to test the other options. I'ld like to, but I'm
not going to run out and buy a Mac just to test on.  (If only I could.)
If it only works in the default case, but not the edges, it's better than
not working at all, IMHO.

I'll spend more time working on it, then learn to make a patch file (last
time I tried, Mark could not read it, and I ended up sending him the whole
text) and re-submit.

Will someone please volunteer to help me figure out why I can't build IPy on
Ubuntu?  I'll pay the phone/connection charges.
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-21 Thread Steve Dower
Ubuntu doesn't have the latest version of Mono, which is required for
the .NET 4.0 equivalent compiler (dmcs). You would have to build Mono
from sources to get it. Alternatively, most other distributions seem
to use the latest version (in particular, OpenSUSE and RHEL are
actively supported by Mono). You can get a ready-made OpenSUSE VM from
the Mono site.

You may not even need to build IronPython using Mono. I'm using
msbuild binaries on OpenSUSE at the moment and haven't had any issues
(yet).

Also, buying a Mac for testing appears to be the only option, since
they don't allow the use of MacOS in VMs (legally, anyway). (I'm sure
that will be taken into consideration when setting up CI, right...?)

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 08:41, Vernon Cole vernondc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree with all of  you.  I was trying to get something that works in the
 default case (no switches, IronPython on Windows).
 I am not really equipped to test the other options. I'ld like to, but I'm
 not going to run out and buy a Mac just to test on.  (If only I could.)
 If it only works in the default case, but not the edges, it's better than
 not working at all, IMHO.

 I'll spend more time working on it, then learn to make a patch file (last
 time I tried, Mark could not read it, and I ended up sending him the whole
 text) and re-submit.

 Will someone please volunteer to help me figure out why I can't build IPy on
 Ubuntu?  I'll pay the phone/connection charges.
 --
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-21 Thread Vernon Cole
Or we can find the bloke who is not keeping Ubuntu Mono and Iron Python
releases up to date and kick his
errr...  ummm  (mumble)...
  It is pretty weird that the distro which always has the latest of
everything is the one with the old IPy/Mono, where the one which is NEVER up
to date (RHEL) has it.  I'll do some investigating.  I'm afraid my
experiences with SUSE and Red Hat are what drove me to Ubuntu. I do almost
all of my open source work on a laptop, and there is a limit to what I dare
ask it to do.  Two operating systems and six IDEs/languages are pushing it a
bit.  Running VM would be over the top.  Perhaps I can set up another
desktop when I get home.
  Thanks for the advice.
Vernon

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Steve Dower s.j.do...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ubuntu doesn't have the latest version of Mono, which is required for
 the .NET 4.0 equivalent compiler (dmcs). You would have to build Mono
 from sources to get it. Alternatively, most other distributions seem
 to use the latest version (in particular, OpenSUSE and RHEL are
 actively supported by Mono). You can get a ready-made OpenSUSE VM from
 the Mono site.

 You may not even need to build IronPython using Mono. I'm using
 msbuild binaries on OpenSUSE at the moment and haven't had any issues
 (yet).

 Also, buying a Mac for testing appears to be the only option, since
 they don't allow the use of MacOS in VMs (legally, anyway). (I'm sure
 that will be taken into consideration when setting up CI, right...?)

 On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 08:41, Vernon Cole vernondc...@gmail.com wrote:
  I agree with all of  you.  I was trying to get something that works in
 the
  default case (no switches, IronPython on Windows).
  I am not really equipped to test the other options. I'ld like to, but I'm
  not going to run out and buy a Mac just to test on.  (If only I could.)
  If it only works in the default case, but not the edges, it's better than
  not working at all, IMHO.
 
  I'll spend more time working on it, then learn to make a patch file (last
  time I tried, Mark could not read it, and I ended up sending him the
 whole
  text) and re-submit.
 
  Will someone please volunteer to help me figure out why I can't build IPy
 on
  Ubuntu?  I'll pay the phone/connection charges.
  --
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[IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-20 Thread Vernon Cole
I've lost my link, and cannot muddle my way to meaningful results on either
Codeplex, Wikepedia or Github. Github actually refers me back to Codeplex,
where the most recent release is October of last year.
What is the URL to the real, true, current official source for IronPython?
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-20 Thread Daniel D.
See Setting up Repository

http://ironpython.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Respository%20InstructionsreferringTitle=Home


On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 08:42, Vernon Cole vernondc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've lost my link, and cannot muddle my way to meaningful results on either
 Codeplex, Wikepedia or Github. Github actually refers me back to Codeplex,
 where the most recent release is October of last year.
 What is the URL to the real, true, current official source for IronPython?
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-20 Thread Jeff Hardy
Github is the master source. And yes, the various websites need
straightening out.

- Jeff

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Vernon Cole vernondc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've lost my link, and cannot muddle my way to meaningful results on either
 Codeplex, Wikepedia or Github. Github actually refers me back to Codeplex,
 where the most recent release is October of last year.
 What is the URL to the real, true, current official source for IronPython?
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-20 Thread Vernon Cole
I searched on Github for the keyword IronPython.  The search returns 20
repositories and 399 source trees.  None of the repositories seems to be
IronPython.  I only checked the first 25 source references
  What's the URL?
--
Vernon

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Jeff Hardy jdha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Github is the master source. And yes, the various websites need
 straightening out.

 - Jeff

 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Vernon Cole vernondc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I've lost my link, and cannot muddle my way to meaningful results on
 either
  Codeplex, Wikepedia or Github. Github actually refers me back to
 Codeplex,
  where the most recent release is October of last year.
  What is the URL to the real, true, current official source for
 IronPython?
  --
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-20 Thread Dino Viehland
It's actually IronLanguages as it's where both IronPython and IronRuby are 
being developed out of - https://github.com/IronLanguages/main

From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Cole
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:17 PM
To: Jeff Hardy
Cc: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython 
source code?

I searched on Github for the keyword IronPython.  The search returns 20 
repositories and 399 source trees.  None of the repositories seems to be 
IronPython.  I only checked the first 25 source references
  What's the URL?
--
Vernon
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Jeff Hardy 
jdha...@gmail.commailto:jdha...@gmail.com wrote:
Github is the master source. And yes, the various websites need
straightening out.

- Jeff

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Vernon Cole 
vernondc...@gmail.commailto:vernondc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've lost my link, and cannot muddle my way to meaningful results on either
 Codeplex, Wikepedia or Github. Github actually refers me back to Codeplex,
 where the most recent release is October of last year.
 What is the URL to the real, true, current official source for IronPython?
 --
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Re: [IronPython] Arright dangit! Where is the OFFICIAL IronPython source code?

2011-02-20 Thread Vernon Cole
Thanks! That worked great.
Now here's my first direct contribution.
see http://ironpython.codeplex.com/workitem/30218 for a version of
webbrowser.py which actually works on cli.
(and therefore import antigravity also works.)
--
Vernon

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Dino Viehland di...@microsoft.com wrote:

  It’s actually IronLanguages as it’s where both IronPython and IronRuby
 are being developed out of - https://github.com/IronLanguages/main


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