Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-03-02 Thread Paul King
I would also recommend gradle for your circumstances. If you were thinking
of using ant, all the ant tasks are available for your in gradle but it has
maven's style of convention over configuration for the part's like building
Java code which have a well-defined lifecycle.

Cheers, Paul.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Johan Erlands
wrote:

> On Thursday 01 March 2012 03:57:59 Terence Stephens wrote:
> > I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
> > better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
> > Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
> > different tool?
>
> Maybe gradle is a good alternative. My experience i rather limited but it
> has
> the dependency management of maven and you can write your own phases in
> groovy
> and ant (whitout the xml part if you want).
>
> Best regards
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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-03-02 Thread Dan Tran
If i have to repeatedly doing the same thing every day maven
plugin is a way to go since I can run it any where i like as long as
maven installed and point to our central maven repo.

-D

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Terence Stephens
 wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies.  I'm tempted to use Maven just because I
> think it's the more valuable tool to learn, but I'll probably go with
> Ant for the first iteration.  There have been a lot of other tools
> suggested as well. I'll do more research on those and will hopefully
> decide next week.
>
> thank you again for all the ideas and suggestions.
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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-03-01 Thread Terence Stephens
Thanks for all the replies.  I'm tempted to use Maven just because I
think it's the more valuable tool to learn, but I'll probably go with
Ant for the first iteration.  There have been a lot of other tools
suggested as well. I'll do more research on those and will hopefully
decide next week.

thank you again for all the ideas and suggestions.

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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-03-01 Thread John R. Todd
Hello,

  Long time maven user, new to the alias..

  You could probably do all of this in Maven w/ plugins, ant, etc. but
you may want to look at a small ensemble of tools to accomplish the work
flow as you've layed out.  I'm thinking Jenkins to build using the maven
plugin and either the ant or Jenkins shell plugins to move code around. 
Puppet or Chef to create directories, deploy, configure, DL dirs, etc.

hth,
John T.

On 02/29/2012 07:57 PM, Terence Stephens wrote:
> I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
> Build Java Code
> Move Php code to a different location on my computer
> Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
> FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
> Download whole directories and then zip of the contents
>
>
> I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
> better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
> Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
> different tool?
>
> thanks.
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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-03-01 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,

I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
Build Java Code
Move Php code to a different location on my computer
Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
Download whole directories and then zip of the contents

sounds like you need a thing like wagon-maven-plugin
http://mojo.codehaus.org/wagon-maven-plugin/ which might do the job...
Creating ZIP File might be job for the maven-assembly-plugin ...

I'm not sure if in your case Maven is the right choice...but you should 
take a deeper look...may be you can give some hint for enhancement of 
existing plugins or may for new plugins...



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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-02-29 Thread Johan Erlands
On Thursday 01 March 2012 03:57:59 Terence Stephens wrote:
> I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
> better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
> Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
> different tool?

Maybe gradle is a good alternative. My experience i rather limited but it has 
the dependency management of maven and you can write your own phases in groovy 
and ant (whitout the xml part if you want). 

Best regards 
Johan
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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-02-29 Thread Brian Topping
Adding to the valid observations of others, I'd first consider the size of the 
project, number of people that are going to be using it and their experience 
with Maven.  

If you want do to such a build cleanly with Maven, the best way to do it is by 
creating or obtaining plugins for the various tasks.  There actually is a PHP 
plugin, for instance, and others would be simple to make.  But if it's just a 
few people that know Maven and hoards of others that complain about it being 
there or JVM languages being a part of the build, it's just asking for 
problems.  For instance, you will probably find the team assigning any and all 
issues with the build to you.

OTOH, if you have a large organization that is going to use the build and a 
majority knows Maven already, plugins and lifecycle are still quite applicable 
and might be more enjoyable.

Maven can solve this problem just fine, but since dependency resolution and 
artifact versioning / releases may not be primary requirements for you, the 
non-technical issues Maven creates may outnumber the issues that it resolves.

$0.02... Brian


On Mar 1, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Néstor Boscán wrote:

> Although I really like maven, and use it in all my projects, maven is
> tightly integrated with the project lifecycle (clean, compile, package,
> install, deploy ,etc) so ant looks like a better fit for what you're
> looking for.
> 
> Néstor
> 
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Ron Wheeler <
> rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would have suggested Ant since it is easy to use, widely supported with
>> documentation, books and examples.
>> It can do damn near anything.
>> 
>> make seems awfully obscure but it is used a lot for installation.
>> 
>> maven does not seem like a good fit.
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> 
>> On 29/02/2012 10:20 PM, Yuen-Chi Lian wrote:
>> 
>>> For such scripting with phases, I find rake (or make) to be more suitable
>>> than ant or Maven. Or try BuildR.
>>> 
>>> Yuen-Chi Lian | www.yclian.com
>>> "I do not seek; I find." - Pablo Picasso
>>> 
>>> 2012/3/1 Terence 
>>> Stephens
 
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
 Build Java Code
 Move Php code to a different location on my computer
 Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
 FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
 Download whole directories and then zip of the contents
 
 
 I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
 better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
 Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
 different tool?
 
 thanks.
 
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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-02-29 Thread Néstor Boscán
Although I really like maven, and use it in all my projects, maven is
tightly integrated with the project lifecycle (clean, compile, package,
install, deploy ,etc) so ant looks like a better fit for what you're
looking for.

Néstor

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Ron Wheeler <
rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote:

> I would have suggested Ant since it is easy to use, widely supported with
> documentation, books and examples.
> It can do damn near anything.
>
> make seems awfully obscure but it is used a lot for installation.
>
> maven does not seem like a good fit.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 29/02/2012 10:20 PM, Yuen-Chi Lian wrote:
>
>> For such scripting with phases, I find rake (or make) to be more suitable
>> than ant or Maven. Or try BuildR.
>>
>> Yuen-Chi Lian | www.yclian.com
>> "I do not seek; I find." - Pablo Picasso
>>
>> 2012/3/1 Terence 
>> Stephens
>> >
>>
>>  I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
>>> Build Java Code
>>> Move Php code to a different location on my computer
>>> Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
>>> FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
>>> Download whole directories and then zip of the contents
>>>
>>>
>>> I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
>>> better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
>>> Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
>>> different tool?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-02-29 Thread Ron Wheeler
I would have suggested Ant since it is easy to use, widely supported 
with documentation, books and examples.

It can do damn near anything.

make seems awfully obscure but it is used a lot for installation.

maven does not seem like a good fit.

Ron

On 29/02/2012 10:20 PM, Yuen-Chi Lian wrote:

For such scripting with phases, I find rake (or make) to be more suitable
than ant or Maven. Or try BuildR.

Yuen-Chi Lian | www.yclian.com
"I do not seek; I find." - Pablo Picasso

2012/3/1 Terence Stephens


I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
Build Java Code
Move Php code to a different location on my computer
Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
Download whole directories and then zip of the contents


I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
different tool?

thanks.

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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-02-29 Thread Yuen-Chi Lian
For such scripting with phases, I find rake (or make) to be more suitable
than ant or Maven. Or try BuildR.

Yuen-Chi Lian | www.yclian.com
"I do not seek; I find." - Pablo Picasso

2012/3/1 Terence Stephens 

> I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
> Build Java Code
> Move Php code to a different location on my computer
> Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
> FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
> Download whole directories and then zip of the contents
>
>
> I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
> better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
> Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
> different tool?
>
> thanks.
>
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Re: Is Maven the answer?

2012-02-29 Thread Benson Margulies
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Terence Stephens
 wrote:
> I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
> Build Java Code
> Move Php code to a different location on my computer
> Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
> FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
> Download whole directories and then zip of the contents
>

Not unless you want to write maven plugins or embed a fair amount of
ant in your maven build.

>
> I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
> better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
> Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
> different tool?
>
> thanks.
>
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Is Maven the answer?

2012-02-29 Thread Terence Stephens
I'm looking for a tool that will help me:
Build Java Code
Move Php code to a different location on my computer
Create New Directories on the server and upload content to them (via
FTP over SSL or maybe SSH)
Download whole directories and then zip of the contents


I know I could do this in a shell script, but I think I would have
better luck with a Java based tool.  This is outside the scope of
Maven's uses.  For my needs, should I look into using Maven or find a
different tool?

thanks.

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