Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-03-04 Thread Carlos Sanchez
it's just a matter of priorities and time, there's only 28 hours in a day ;)

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:47 AM, John Coleman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not supporting -P is a show stopper for us. We use the build number
>  plugin, and insist that continumm builds have proper source-repo
>  synchronization.
>
>  Taking away these command line options is a big limitation. Expecting
>  people to change their projects to suit this limitation seems
>  unacceptable to me. I guess we'll have to use the command line in the
>  meantime.
>
>  Regards,
>  John
>
>
>
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Sent: 04 March 2008 15:01
>  > To: Maven Users List
>  > Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>  >
>
>
> > I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev
>  > release, ie
>  > http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz).
>  >
>  > Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works
>  > great for me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both
>  > WTP and Q4E nature.
>  >
>  > Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved
>  > (indirectly via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not
>  > too long future the 'official eclipse plugin' for maven support.
>  >
>  > I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/)
>  >
>  > Regards.
>  >
>  > >2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  > > I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office
>  > work, another
>  > >  for private stuff :-)...
>  > >
>  > >  found a post in the q4e users list:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7a
>  > > fd79ebcf
>  > >
>  > >  refering to an issue in q4e:
>  > >  http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5
>  > >
>  > >  sorry,
>  > >  tom
>  > >
>  > >  John Coleman schrieb:
>  > >
>  > > > I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my
>  > settings.xml.
>  > > > Did
>  > >  > you find out how to do that?
>  > >  >
>  > >  > My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to
>  > be streets
>  > > ahead  > of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz
>  > > support Q4E I  > am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Regards,
>  > >  > John
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >> -Original Message-
>  > >  >> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >> Sent: 25 February
>  > > 2008 11:24  >> To: Maven Users List  >> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs.
>  > > M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM  >>  >> Hi !
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a
>  > comparison.. :-):
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than  >>
>  > > m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath  >>
>  > > integration works well. No webtools support in the version
>  > I  >> use,
>  > > but that could have changed in the meantime...
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >> Tom
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >>> Hi Chris,
>  > >  >>>
>  > >  >>> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too.
>  > After  >>>
>  > > >> spending  >>  >>> about a week in total fixing the worst
>  > things in
>  > > it, it is quite  >>> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my
>  > > suggestions made  >>>  >> it into the  >>  >>> mainstream code, and
>  > > I've given up trying. I thought about  >>>  >> a fork but
>  > >>  >>> I
>  > > don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some
>  > >>>  >> good
>  > > ideas,  >>  >>> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't
>  > usable due to
>  > > its  >>>  >> early dev  >>  >>> stage.
>  > >  >>> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the
>  >  >>>  >>
>  > > .project files  >>  >>> and others, this one 

RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-03-04 Thread John Coleman
Not supporting -P is a show stopper for us. We use the build number
plugin, and insist that continumm builds have proper source-repo
synchronization.

Taking away these command line options is a big limitation. Expecting
people to change their projects to suit this limitation seems
unacceptable to me. I guess we'll have to use the command line in the
meantime.

Regards,
John
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 04 March 2008 15:01
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> 
> I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev 
> release, ie 
> http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz).
> 
> Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works 
> great for me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both 
> WTP and Q4E nature.
> 
> Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved 
> (indirectly via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not 
> too long future the 'official eclipse plugin' for maven support.
> 
> I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/)
> 
> Regards.
> 
> >2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office 
> work, another
> >  for private stuff :-)...
> >
> >  found a post in the q4e users list:
> >  
> > 
> http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7a
> > fd79ebcf
> >
> >  refering to an issue in q4e:
> >  http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5
> >
> >  sorry,
> >  tom
> >
> >  John Coleman schrieb:
> >
> > > I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my 
> settings.xml. 
> > > Did
> >  > you find out how to do that?
> >  >
> >  > My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to 
> be streets 
> > ahead  > of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz 
> > support Q4E I  > am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
> >  >
> >  > Regards,
> >  > John
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >> -Original Message-
> >  >> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >> Sent: 25 February 
> > 2008 11:24  >> To: Maven Users List  >> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. 
> > M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM  >>  >> Hi !
> >  >>
> >  >> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a 
> comparison.. :-):
> >  >>
> >  >> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than  >> 
> > m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath  >> 
> > integration works well. No webtools support in the version 
> I  >> use, 
> > but that could have changed in the meantime...
> >  >>
> >  >> Tom
> >  >>
> >  >> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
> >  >>
> >  >>> Hi Chris,
> >  >>>
> >  >>> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. 
> After  >>>  
> > >> spending  >>  >>> about a week in total fixing the worst 
> things in 
> > it, it is quite  >>> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my 
> > suggestions made  >>>  >> it into the  >>  >>> mainstream code, and 
> > I've given up trying. I thought about  >>>  >> a fork but  
> >>  >>> I 
> > don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some  
> >>>  >> good 
> > ideas,  >>  >>> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't 
> usable due to 
> > its  >>>  >> early dev  >>  >>> stage.
> >  >>> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the 
>  >>>  >> 
> > .project files  >>  >>> and others, this one allows you to develop 
> > maven apps in  >>>  >> Eclipse, but  >>  >>> it is no real "Eclipse 
> > integration".
> >  >>>
> >  >>> HTH,
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Stefan
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Chris wrote:
> >  >>>
> >  >>>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between  
> >>>>  >> 
> > Mevenide and the  >>  >>>> alternatives, and didn't come up 
> with much.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> (I've spend so

Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-03-04 Thread Henri Gomez
I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev release, ie
http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz).

Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works great for
me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both WTP and Q4E nature.

Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved (indirectly
via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not too long future the
'official eclipse plugin' for maven support.

I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/)

Regards.

>2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another
>  for private stuff :-)...
>
>  found a post in the q4e users list:
>  
> http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7afd79ebcf
>
>  refering to an issue in q4e:
>  http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5
>
>  sorry,
>  tom
>
>  John Coleman schrieb:
>
> > I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did
>  > you find out how to do that?
>  >
>  > My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead
>  > of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I
>  > am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > John
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >> -Original Message-----
>  >> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >> Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24
>  >> To: Maven Users List
>  >> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>  >>
>  >> Hi !
>  >>
>  >> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):
>  >>
>  >> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than
>  >> m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath
>  >> integration works well. No webtools support in the version I
>  >> use, but that could have changed in the meantime...
>  >>
>  >> Tom
>  >>
>  >> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
>  >>
>  >>> Hi Chris,
>  >>>
>  >>> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After
>  >>>
>  >> spending
>  >>
>  >>> about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite
>  >>> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made
>  >>>
>  >> it into the
>  >>
>  >>> mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about
>  >>>
>  >> a fork but
>  >>
>  >>> I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some
>  >>>
>  >> good ideas,
>  >>
>  >>> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its
>  >>>
>  >> early dev
>  >>
>  >>> stage.
>  >>> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the
>  >>>
>  >> .project files
>  >>
>  >>> and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in
>  >>>
>  >> Eclipse, but
>  >>
>  >>> it is no real "Eclipse integration".
>  >>>
>  >>> HTH,
>  >>>
>  >>> Stefan
>  >>>
>  >>> Chris wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between
>  >>>>
>  >> Mevenide and the
>  >>
>  >>>> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Can someone tell me the differences?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-03-04 Thread Thomas Lutz
I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another 
for private stuff :-)...


found a post in the q4e users list:
http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7afd79ebcf

refering to an issue in q4e:
http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5

sorry,
tom

John Coleman schrieb:

I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did
you find out how to do that?

My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead
of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I
am hoping it is better than what I have seen.

Regards,
John
 

  

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24

To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

Hi !

Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):

I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than 
m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath 
integration works well. No webtools support in the version I 
use, but that could have changed in the meantime...


Tom

VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:


Hi Chris,

we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After 
  
spending 

about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite 
usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made 
  
it into the 

mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about 
  
a fork but 

I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some 
  
good ideas, 

and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its 
  
early dev 


stage.
There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the 
  
.project files 

and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in 
  
Eclipse, but 


it is no real "Eclipse integration".

HTH,

Stefan

Chris wrote:
  
I googled around to try to find a comparison between 

Mevenide and the 


alternatives, and didn't come up with much.

Can someone tell me the differences?

(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).





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RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-03-04 Thread John Coleman
I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did
you find out how to do that?

My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead
of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I
am hoping it is better than what I have seen.

Regards,
John
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> 
> Hi !
> 
> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):
> 
> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than 
> m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath 
> integration works well. No webtools support in the version I 
> use, but that could have changed in the meantime...
> 
> Tom
> 
> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After 
> spending 
> > about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite 
> > usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made 
> it into the 
> > mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about 
> a fork but 
> > I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some 
> good ideas, 
> > and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its 
> early dev 
> > stage.
> > There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the 
> .project files 
> > and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in 
> Eclipse, but 
> > it is no real "Eclipse integration".
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between 
> Mevenide and the 
> >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> >>
> >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >>
> >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> >>
> >>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-26 Thread Rodrigo Madera
The problem is when you don't have that time to time.

Once you implement one, its very hard for you to get time to implement
another one.
Specially since there is no such thing as fail-safe plugin installations.
Not to mention the learning curve each one requires.

IOW: For a business, its better to stick to one and learn it well. If a
standard (or Industry Quality) arrives, then adopt it and save money.

Regards,
Rodrigo

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Boeckli, Dominique <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> all these tools are not ready, in my opinion, but it is worth to take a
> look at them
> from time to time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 02:45 AM
> To: users@maven.apache.org
> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>
> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>
> Can someone tell me the differences?
>
> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>
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RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-26 Thread Boeckli, Dominique
all these tools are not ready, in my opinion, but it is worth to take a
look at them
from time to time.  

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To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
alternatives, and didn't come up with much.

Can someone tell me the differences?

(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).


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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-25 Thread Thomas Lutz

Hi !

Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):

I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and 
mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No 
webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in 
the meantime...


Tom

VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:

Hi Chris,

we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending 
about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite 
usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the 
mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but 
I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, 
and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev 
stage.
There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files 
and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but 
it is no real "Eclipse integration".


HTH,

Stefan

Chris wrote:
I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the 
alternatives, and didn't come up with much.


Can someone tell me the differences?

(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).


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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-25 Thread VUB Stefan Seidel

Hi Chris,

we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending 
about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. 
Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream 
code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have 
the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last 
looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage.
There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files 
and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it 
is no real "Eclipse integration".


HTH,

Stefan

Chris wrote:
I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the 
alternatives, and didn't come up with much.


Can someone tell me the differences?

(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).


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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-24 Thread Milos Kleint
mevenide for eclipse is for maven 1 only.

Milos

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about mevenide? Has anyone used it, know how it compares?
>
>
>
>
>  Carlos Sanchez wrote:
>  > i've added a list of Q4E features to the table
>  >
>  > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
>  >>  just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
>  >>  http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
>  >>
>  >>  I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
>  >>
>  >>  This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
>  >>
>  >>  Selon Abel Muiño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  >
>  >>  > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none 
> but it
>  >>  > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and 
> some
>  >>  > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair 
> comparison
>  >>  > if I made it :-).
>  >>  >
>  >>  > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several 
> users of
>  >>  > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, 
> you'll
>  >>  > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
>  >>  > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble 
> if
>  >>  > > you
>  >>  > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven 
> nicely, but
>  >>  > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > > Thanks,
>  >>  > > Rodrigo
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >>  > > wrote:
>  >>  > >
>  >>  > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
>  >>  > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> Features
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
>  >>  > >> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic 
> download
>  >>  > >> of dependencies
>  >>  > >> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
>  >>  > >> *   dependency graphing
>  >>  > >> 
>  >>  > >> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
>  >>  > >> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
>  >>  > >> mechanism
>  >>  > >> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
>  >>  > >> projects
>  >>  > >> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
>  >>  > >>   (from 
> 0.5.0)
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
>  >>  > >> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka 
> Tycho)?
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
>  >>  > >>  , for that reason the license is EPL and 
> we are
>  >>  > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the 
> sponsorship of
>  >>  > >> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer 
> Member
>  >>  > >>   
> we are
>  >>  > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While 
> m2eclipse
>  >>  > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show 
> them
>  >>  > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
>  >>  > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
>  >>  > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and 
> extension
>  >>  > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking 
> advantage
>  >>  > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
>  >>  > >> 
>   >>  > >>
>  >>  >
>  >>  
> -under-extreme-refactoring/>
>  >>  > >> ).
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins 
> are the
>  >>  > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in 
> its
>  >>  > >> development.
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  > >>
>  >>  >

Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-24 Thread Chris

How about mevenide? Has anyone used it, know how it compares?


Carlos Sanchez wrote:

i've added a list of Q4E features to the table

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
 just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration

 I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.

 This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.

 Selon Abel Muiño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



 >
 > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
 > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
 > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
 > if I made it :-).
 >
 > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
 > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
 >
 > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
 > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
 > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
 >
 >
 > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
 > >
 > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
 > > you
 > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
 > >
 > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
 > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
 > >
 > > Thanks,
 > > Rodrigo
 > >
 > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > > wrote:
 > >
 > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
 > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Features
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
 > >> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
 > >> of dependencies
 > >> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
 > >> *   dependency graphing
 > >> 
 > >> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
 > >> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
 > >> mechanism
 > >> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
 > >> projects
 > >> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
 > >>   (from 0.5.0)
 > >>
 > >> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
 > >> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
 > >>  , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
 > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
 > >> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
 > >>   we are
 > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
 > >>
 > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
 > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
 > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
 > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
 > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
 > >>
 > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
 > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
 > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
 > >>  >>
 >
 
-under-extreme-refactoring/>
 > >> ).
 > >>
 > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
 > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
 > >> development.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> -Original Message-
 > >> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
 > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
 > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
 > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
 > >>
 > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> -
 > >>
 > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > >>
 > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >
 > >
 >
 >
 > -
 > http://www.linke

Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Sanchez
i've added a list of Q4E features to the table

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
>  just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
>  http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
>
>  I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
>
>  This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
>
>  Selon Abel Muiño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
>  >
>  > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but 
> it
>  > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
>  > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair 
> comparison
>  > if I made it :-).
>  >
>  > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users 
> of
>  > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
>  >
>  > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
>  > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
>  > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
>  >
>  >
>  > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
>  > > you
>  > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
>  > >
>  > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, 
> but
>  > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
>  > >
>  > > Thanks,
>  > > Rodrigo
>  > >
>  > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > > wrote:
>  > >
>  > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
>  > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> Features
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
>  > >> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
>  > >> of dependencies
>  > >> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
>  > >> *   dependency graphing
>  > >> 
>  > >> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
>  > >> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
>  > >> mechanism
>  > >> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
>  > >> projects
>  > >> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
>  > >>   (from 0.5.0)
>  > >>
>  > >> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
>  > >> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
>  > >>  , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
>  > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
>  > >> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
>  > >>   we are
>  > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>  > >>
>  > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
>  > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
>  > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
>  > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
>  > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>  > >>
>  > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
>  > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
>  > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
>  > >>   > >>
>  >
>  
> -under-extreme-refactoring/>
>  > >> ).
>  > >>
>  > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
>  > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
>  > >> development.
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> -Original Message-
>  > >> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
>  > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>  > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
>  > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
>  > >>
>  > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> -
>  > >

Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-24 Thread herve . boutemy
Selon Rodrigo Madera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Nice work.
thank you

>
> However there is a deprecated indicator on the OSGi Bundles item (under
> Eclipse Developer).
> What exactly do you mean with it?
*I* don't mean anything: it was in the page before I changed it. Since I don't
know the topic, I let it as-is.
Feel free to fix the info if it is not accurate :)

>
> As an OSGi developer I found it rather strange to see OSGi and deprecated on
> the same sentence. =o)
>
> Thanks,
> Rodrigo
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
> > just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
> > http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
> >
> > I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
> >
> > This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
> >
> > Selon Abel Muiño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >
> > > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none
> > but it
> > > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and
> > some
> > > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair
> > comparison
> > > if I made it :-).
> > >
> > > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several
> > users of
> > > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
> > >
> > > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> > > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> > > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> > > >
> > > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely,
> > but
> > > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Rodrigo
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> > > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Features
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
> > > >> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic
> > download
> > > >> of dependencies
> > > >> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> > > >> *   dependency graphing
> > > >> 
> > > >> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
> > > >> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> > > >> mechanism
> > > >> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> > > >> projects
> > > >> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> > > >>   (from
> > 0.5.0)
> > > >>
> > > >> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> > > >> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka
> > Tycho)?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> > > >>  , for that reason the license is EPL and we
> > are
> > > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship
> > of
> > > >> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer
> > Member
> > > >>   we
> > are
> > > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> > > >>
> > > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While
> > m2eclipse
> > > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show
> > them
> > > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> > > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> > > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and
> > extension
> > > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking
> > advantage
> > > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> > > >> <
> > http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> > > >>
> > >
> > -under-extreme-refactoring/<
> >
>
http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/
> > >>
> > > >> ).
> > > >>
> > > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are
> > the
> > > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in
> > its
> > > >> development.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Original Message-
> > > >> From: news [ma

Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-24 Thread Rodrigo Madera
Nice work.

However there is a deprecated indicator on the OSGi Bundles item (under
Eclipse Developer).
What exactly do you mean with it?

As an OSGi developer I found it rather strange to see OSGi and deprecated on
the same sentence. =o)

Thanks,
Rodrigo

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
> just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
>
> I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
>
> This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
>
> Selon Abel Muiño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none
> but it
> > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and
> some
> > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair
> comparison
> > if I made it :-).
> >
> > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several
> users of
> > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
> >
> > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
> >
> >
> > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> > >
> > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble
> if
> > > you
> > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> > >
> > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely,
> but
> > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rodrigo
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Features
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
> > >> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic
> download
> > >> of dependencies
> > >> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> > >> *   dependency graphing
> > >> 
> > >> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
> > >> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> > >> mechanism
> > >> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> > >> projects
> > >> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> > >>   (from
> 0.5.0)
> > >>
> > >> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> > >> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka
> Tycho)?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> > >>  , for that reason the license is EPL and we
> are
> > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship
> of
> > >> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer
> Member
> > >>   we
> are
> > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> > >>
> > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While
> m2eclipse
> > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show
> them
> > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> > >>
> > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and
> extension
> > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking
> advantage
> > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> > >> <
> http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> > >>
> >
> -under-extreme-refactoring/<
> http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/
> >>
> > >> ).
> > >>
> > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are
> the
> > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in
> its
> > >> development.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> > >>
> > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> 

Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-24 Thread herve . boutemy
Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration

I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.

This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.

Selon Abel Muiño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
> would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
> pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
> if I made it :-).
>
> I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
> the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
>
> As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
>
>
> Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> >
> > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
> > you
> > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> >
> > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
> > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rodrigo
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Features
> >>
> >>
> >> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
> >> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
> >> of dependencies
> >> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> >> *   dependency graphing
> >> 
> >> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
> >> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> >> mechanism
> >> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> >> projects
> >> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> >>   (from 0.5.0)
> >>
> >> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> >> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
> >>
> >>
> >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> >>  , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
> >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
> >> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
> >>   we are
> >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> >>
> >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
> >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
> >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> >>
> >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
> >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
> >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> >>  >>
>
-under-extreme-refactoring/>
> >> ).
> >>
> >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
> >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
> >> development.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> >>
> >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-24 Thread Abel Muiño

As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
if I made it :-).

I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.

As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.


Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> 
> Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
> you
> go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> 
> I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
> is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rodrigo
> 
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
>> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Features
>>
>>
>> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
>> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
>> of dependencies
>> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
>> *   dependency graphing
>> 
>> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
>> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
>> mechanism
>> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
>> projects
>> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
>>   (from 0.5.0)
>>
>> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
>> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
>>
>>
>> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
>>  , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
>> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
>> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
>>   we are
>> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>>
>> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
>> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
>> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
>> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
>> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>>
>> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
>> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
>> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
>> > -under-extreme-refactoring/>
>> ).
>>
>> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
>> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
>> development.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>> To: users@maven.apache.org
>> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>>
>>
>>
>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
>>
>> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can someone tell me the differences?
>>
>>
>>
>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
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>>
> 
> 


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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-23 Thread Rodrigo Madera
Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you
go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?

I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.

Thanks,
Rodrigo

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>
>
>
>
> Features
>
>
> *   running Maven goals from the IDE
> *   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
> of dependencies
> *   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> *   dependency graphing
> 
> *   direct import of Maven 2 projects
> *   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> mechanism
> *   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> projects
> *   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
>   (from 0.5.0)
>
> *   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> *   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>
>
>
>
> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
>
>
> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
>  , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
> DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
>   we are
> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>
> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>
> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
>  -under-extreme-refactoring/>
> ).
>
> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
> development.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> To: users@maven.apache.org
> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>
>
>
> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
>
> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>
>
>
> Can someone tell me the differences?
>
>
>
> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>
>
>
>
>
> -
>
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

2008-02-23 Thread Jason Chaffee
I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ

 


Features


*   running Maven goals from the IDE 
*   dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
of dependencies 
*   keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM 
*   dependency graphing
  
*   direct import of Maven 2 projects 
*   wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
mechanism 
*   modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
projects 
*   ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
  (from 0.5.0)

*   ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) 
*   dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) 

 


What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?


The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
 , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
DevZuz  , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
  we are
in a good position to achieve this goal. 

Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. 

Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
 ). 

In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
development. 

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM

 

I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the 

alternatives, and didn't come up with much.

 

Can someone tell me the differences?

 

(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).

 

 

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