Re: What is going on with maven-javadoc-plugin?

2015-03-14 Thread Marcos Zolnowski
I agree about the platoon size.
Said army as a metaphor.

 Furthermore nobody is holding...just we have done 49 releases on those 6 
 months...this means in average every 3-4 days a new release...

This is nice, keep the good work.
The Maven platoon must keep fighting hard.

Forgive me for putting pressure on you.
Mister Karl Heinz Marbaise, I appreciate all the time and attention directed at 
me.
 



On Friday, March 13, 2015 9:12 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise khmarba...@gmx.de 
wrote:
Hi Marcos,

now i would suggest to subscribe on the DEV mailing list and become an 
active member of the community and check the VOTEd release and see if it 
works for you...and please give feedback about it...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

On 3/13/15 10:27 PM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:
 Appearances can be deceiving, when I see the link 
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-javadoc-plugin/team-list.html, there 
 seems to be an army of developers.
 Now I am aware of the reality of Maven, but I do not understand why a fixed 
 bug needs votes.
 Bug was fixed 09/Oct/14, 6 months holding a bug fix?
 A fixed bug is not a new feature, why should we wait 6 months for more people 
 to hit this bug, if we could solve it today?
 On Friday, March 13, 2015 5:12 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise khmarba...@gmx.de 
 wrote:



 Hi Marcos,


 On 3/13/15 2:38 AM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:
 From: 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAVADOC-365?focusedCommentId=363324page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-363324

 It has been about 6 months now since the last activity here.
 I wonder, what can be done with respect to getting a 2.11 or 2.10.2
   version with this change applied?

 Can anyone tell me why no one does the release of this plugin?


 Just based on lack of time...cause there are in the meantime a large
 number of releases have been done and all of the members of the Maven
 team are busy...You should be aware that all of the Maven team (I don't
 any exception) are working on Maven in their spare time...no one is
 doing this fulltime...(apart from being payed for it).

 Furthermore there is no vote on the issue...

 We are usually focused on issues which have more than one vote or be
 more accurate having at least one vote...

 and an other thing is that no one seemed to be interested in, no
 feedback in the jira issue (for more than three years), nor asked
 someone before...except you...

 May be i'm able to check within the next days ...

 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: What is going on with maven-javadoc-plugin?

2015-03-13 Thread Marcos Zolnowski
Thank you for this enlightening response.
 

 On Friday, March 13, 2015 2:55 AM, Baptiste Mathus bmat...@batmat.net 
wrote:
   

 Just ich scratching and limited time, that's how OSS works.
Generally, if (like here) the code is moreover already committed, *kindly*
asking for a release on the dev ML can do the trick.

HTH

2015-03-13 2:38 GMT+01:00 Marcos Zolnowski 
marcos.zolnow...@yahoo.com.invalid:

 From:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAVADOC-365?focusedCommentId=363324page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-363324It
 has been about 6 months now since the last activity here. I wonder, what
 can be done with respect to getting a 2.11 or 2.10.2 version with this
 change applied?
 Can anyone tell me why no one does the release of this plugin?




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Re: What is going on with maven-javadoc-plugin?

2015-03-13 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi Marcos,

On 3/13/15 2:38 AM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:

From: 
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAVADOC-365?focusedCommentId=363324page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-363324


It has been about 6 months now since the last activity here.
 I wonder, what can be done with respect to getting a 2.11 or 2.10.2
  version with this change applied?


Can anyone tell me why no one does the release of this plugin?



Just based on lack of time...cause there are in the meantime a large 
number of releases have been done and all of the members of the Maven 
team are busy...You should be aware that all of the Maven team (I don't 
any exception) are working on Maven in their spare time...no one is 
doing this fulltime...(apart from being payed for it).


Furthermore there is no vote on the issue...

We are usually focused on issues which have more than one vote or be 
more accurate having at least one vote...


and an other thing is that no one seemed to be interested in, no 
feedback in the jira issue (for more than three years), nor asked 
someone before...except you...


May be i'm able to check within the next days ...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: What is going on with maven-javadoc-plugin?

2015-03-13 Thread Marcos Zolnowski
Appearances can be deceiving, when I see the link 
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-javadoc-plugin/team-list.html, there 
seems to be an army of developers.
Now I am aware of the reality of Maven, but I do not understand why a fixed bug 
needs votes.
Bug was fixed 09/Oct/14, 6 months holding a bug fix?
A fixed bug is not a new feature, why should we wait 6 months for more people 
to hit this bug, if we could solve it today?
On Friday, March 13, 2015 5:12 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise khmarba...@gmx.de 
wrote:



Hi Marcos,


On 3/13/15 2:38 AM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:
 From: 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAVADOC-365?focusedCommentId=363324page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-363324

It has been about 6 months now since the last activity here.
 I wonder, what can be done with respect to getting a 2.11 or 2.10.2
  version with this change applied?

 Can anyone tell me why no one does the release of this plugin?


Just based on lack of time...cause there are in the meantime a large 
number of releases have been done and all of the members of the Maven 
team are busy...You should be aware that all of the Maven team (I don't 
any exception) are working on Maven in their spare time...no one is 
doing this fulltime...(apart from being payed for it).

Furthermore there is no vote on the issue...

We are usually focused on issues which have more than one vote or be 
more accurate having at least one vote...

and an other thing is that no one seemed to be interested in, no 
feedback in the jira issue (for more than three years), nor asked 
someone before...except you...

May be i'm able to check within the next days ...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: What is going on with maven-javadoc-plugin?

2015-03-13 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi Marcos,

now i would suggest to subscribe on the DEV mailing list and become an 
active member of the community and check the VOTEd release and see if it 
works for you...and please give feedback about it...


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

On 3/13/15 10:27 PM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:

Appearances can be deceiving, when I see the link 
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-javadoc-plugin/team-list.html, there 
seems to be an army of developers.
Now I am aware of the reality of Maven, but I do not understand why a fixed bug 
needs votes.
Bug was fixed 09/Oct/14, 6 months holding a bug fix?
A fixed bug is not a new feature, why should we wait 6 months for more people 
to hit this bug, if we could solve it today?
On Friday, March 13, 2015 5:12 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise khmarba...@gmx.de 
wrote:



Hi Marcos,


On 3/13/15 2:38 AM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:

From: 
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAVADOC-365?focusedCommentId=363324page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-363324


It has been about 6 months now since the last activity here.

I wonder, what can be done with respect to getting a 2.11 or 2.10.2
  version with this change applied?



Can anyone tell me why no one does the release of this plugin?



Just based on lack of time...cause there are in the meantime a large
number of releases have been done and all of the members of the Maven
team are busy...You should be aware that all of the Maven team (I don't
any exception) are working on Maven in their spare time...no one is
doing this fulltime...(apart from being payed for it).

Furthermore there is no vote on the issue...

We are usually focused on issues which have more than one vote or be
more accurate having at least one vote...

and an other thing is that no one seemed to be interested in, no
feedback in the jira issue (for more than three years), nor asked
someone before...except you...

May be i'm able to check within the next days ...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: What is going on with maven-javadoc-plugin?

2015-03-13 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi Marcos,

On 3/13/15 10:27 PM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:

Appearances can be deceiving, when I see the link 
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-javadoc-plugin/team-list.html,

 there seems to be an army of developers.


Now I am aware of the reality of Maven,


Not really ...Okhere is the reality:

$ cat pom.xml | grep roleCommitter | wc -l
  24
$ cat pom.xml | grep rolePMC | wc -l
  27

24 Committers, 27 PMC's...= 51 who can change the code...(i wouldn't 
call this an army ;-)..


The number of people who have changed code  (this area: 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/): I haven't checked those which 
are git in the meantime and i didn't check on Maven core itself...


from 2011/01/01 till 2011/12/31: 33
from 2012/01/01 till 2012/12/31: 25
from 2013/01/01 till 2013/12/31: 25
from 2014/01/01 till 2014/12/31: 26
from 2015/01/01 till today : 16 (this reduces down to platoon 
instead of an army ;-)..


This means in average only 50% are actively working...(2015 is not ended 
yet)..


Don't get me wrong here...I not blaming anybody...this is an open source 
project and everybody does what he/she can if he/she likes to...



 but I do not understand why a fixed bug needs votes.

Bug was fixed 09/Oct/14,
You are right. I have mistaken the bug you are referencing with another 
one..forget about that...



6 months holding a bug fix?


something missed. I wrote:

 May be i'm able to check within the next days ...


Furthermore nobody is holding...just we have done 49 releases on those 6 
months...this means in average every 3-4 days a new release...




A fixed bug is not a new feature, why should we wait 6 months for more people 
to hit this bug, if we could solve it today?




On Friday, March 13, 2015 5:12 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise khmarba...@gmx.de 
wrote:



Hi Marcos,


On 3/13/15 2:38 AM, Marcos Zolnowski wrote:

From: 
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAVADOC-365?focusedCommentId=363324page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-363324


It has been about 6 months now since the last activity here.

I wonder, what can be done with respect to getting a 2.11 or 2.10.2
  version with this change applied?



Can anyone tell me why no one does the release of this plugin?



Just based on lack of time...cause there are in the meantime a large
number of releases have been done and all of the members of the Maven
team are busy...You should be aware that all of the Maven team (I don't
any exception) are working on Maven in their spare time...no one is
doing this fulltime...(apart from being payed for it).

Furthermore there is no vote on the issue...

We are usually focused on issues which have more than one vote or be
more accurate having at least one vote...

and an other thing is that no one seemed to be interested in, no
feedback in the jira issue (for more than three years), nor asked
someone before...except you...

May be i'm able to check within the next days ...

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise


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Re: What is going on with maven-javadoc-plugin?

2015-03-12 Thread Baptiste Mathus
Just ich scratching and limited time, that's how OSS works.
Generally, if (like here) the code is moreover already committed, *kindly*
asking for a release on the dev ML can do the trick.

HTH

2015-03-13 2:38 GMT+01:00 Marcos Zolnowski 
marcos.zolnow...@yahoo.com.invalid:

 From:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAVADOC-365?focusedCommentId=363324page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-363324It
 has been about 6 months now since the last activity here. I wonder, what
 can be done with respect to getting a 2.11 or 2.10.2 version with this
 change applied?
 Can anyone tell me why no one does the release of this plugin?




-- 
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Sauvez un arbre,
Mangez un castor !