Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Leandro wrote: Thanks Wayne. I've just solved it adding one dependency to the project. Why that problem only appears with mvn site and not with mvn deploy? It's the javadoc report that bombs because of missing annotation deps, and javadoc only runs with site. Also sometimes if I run mvn install site:stage (with install before) I don't get errors, otherwise I do. Why is this happening? See http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSITE-171 HTH, -Lukas Thanks again! From: Wayne Fay [via Maven] [ml-node+4346618-1269415335-202...@n5.nabble.com] Sent: 28 April 2011 15:27 To: Leandro Iriarte Subject: Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error In this URL you can see the complete output running mvn site -X in the module which error: http://pastebin.com/8yV8WBQh Is the same error I get when I run mvn site:stage in the root project It is really not hard to scan a debug log and find problems. Look near the bottom of your log for lines that say [ERROR]. It appears you have some annotation issues in PollMessages and CreateProcessListener. Wayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden email] For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden email] If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4346618.html To unsubscribe from mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error, click here<http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=4343797&code=bGVhbmRyby5pcmlhcnRlQGZ1c2VpbS5jb218NDM0Mzc5N3wtMTQ1MTMwNzY1>. -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4346660.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
RE: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Thanks Wayne. I've just solved it adding one dependency to the project. Why that problem only appears with mvn site and not with mvn deploy? Also sometimes if I run mvn install site:stage (with install before) I don't get errors, otherwise I do. Why is this happening? Thanks again! From: Wayne Fay [via Maven] [ml-node+4346618-1269415335-202...@n5.nabble.com] Sent: 28 April 2011 15:27 To: Leandro Iriarte Subject: Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error > In this URL you can see the complete output running mvn site -X in the module > which error: http://pastebin.com/8yV8WBQh > > Is the same error I get when I run mvn site:stage in the root project It is really not hard to scan a debug log and find problems. Look near the bottom of your log for lines that say [ERROR]. It appears you have some annotation issues in PollMessages and CreateProcessListener. Wayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden email] For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden email] If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4346618.html To unsubscribe from mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error, click here<http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=4343797&code=bGVhbmRyby5pcmlhcnRlQGZ1c2VpbS5jb218NDM0Mzc5N3wtMTQ1MTMwNzY1>. -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4346660.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
> In this URL you can see the complete output running mvn site -X in the module > which error: http://pastebin.com/8yV8WBQh > > Is the same error I get when I run mvn site:stage in the root project It is really not hard to scan a debug log and find problems. Look near the bottom of your log for lines that say [ERROR]. It appears you have some annotation issues in PollMessages and CreateProcessListener. Wayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
RE: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
In this URL you can see the complete output running mvn site -X in the module which error: http://pastebin.com/8yV8WBQh Is the same error I get when I run mvn site:stage in the root project Let me know if you need more info Thanks From: Wayne Fay [via Maven] [ml-node+4344305-1193890786-202...@n5.nabble.com] Sent: 27 April 2011 18:40 To: Leandro Iriarte Subject: Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error >> I did it, I get a really large output in the console, which finally shows >> tyhe message i wrote above :/ > > Yes, but somewhere just above the error message, you should see which > plugin is running. Without that info it's difficult to help you. Please copy and paste the entire output and post it somewhere like pastebin.com, and send the link here so we can analyze it. Do not send the full debug log here via email. Wayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden email] For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden email] If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4344305.html To unsubscribe from mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error, click here<http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=4343797&code=bGVhbmRyby5pcmlhcnRlQGZ1c2VpbS5jb218NDM0Mzc5N3wtMTQ1MTMwNzY1>. -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4346486.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
>> I did it, I get a really large output in the console, which finally shows >> tyhe message i wrote above :/ > > Yes, but somewhere just above the error message, you should see which > plugin is running. Without that info it's difficult to help you. Please copy and paste the entire output and post it somewhere like pastebin.com, and send the link here so we can analyze it. Do not send the full debug log here via email. Wayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Leandro skrev 2011-04-27 18:50: > Hi, > > I did it, I get a really large output in the console, which finally shows > tyhe message i wrote above :/ Yes, but somewhere just above the error message, you should see which plugin is running. Without that info it's difficult to help you. > > From: dennisl [via Maven] [ml-node+4344160-463539003-202...@n5.nabble.com] > Sent: 27 April 2011 17:40 > To: Leandro Iriarte > Subject: Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error > > Hi > > Run the build with the -X command line option to get debugging output. > That should help you to find out which report is causing the problem. > > Leandro skrev 2011-04-27 16:20: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a multi-project module with maven 3.0.2 >> >> I am trying to setup the site generation after all compile dependencies are >> now resolved and no compile error is caused during mvn compile or mvn >> install or mvn deploy. >> >> When I do a mvn site or mvn site:stage I get a compile error, anyone has a >> clue what is going on ? Also a mvn clean install before site does not fix >> this problem >> >> Besides I think is taking too much time, and I see the message "Forking >> " more than three times per project. >> >> In my root pom I added the following code inside tag: >> >> >> org.apache.maven.plugins >> maven-site-plugin >> 3.0-beta-2 >> >> ${basedir}/site/ >> >> >> >> org.apache.maven.plugins >> maven-javadoc-plugin >> 2.7 >> >> >> org.apache.maven.plugins >> >> maven-project-info-reports-plugin >> 2.2 >> >> >> >> dependencies >> license >> scm >> project-team >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have a few doubts: >> >> 1) Why am I getting a compilation error only when I use mvn site? >> >> 2) Do I need to add the code below or similar to the subprojects as well? >> (or is enough in the root pom?) >> >> 3) Do I need to add the true or the appropriate goal (aggregate) ? >> >> 4) Would I get an error if I do not write the site descriptor in each >> subproject? >> >> 5) Is it normal that I am getting more than three "Forking " messages? >> >> Finally, the last error was: >> >> [ERROR] Failed to execute goal >> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-site-plugin:3.0-beta-2:stage (default-cli) on >> project xstreamline3-viewers: Error during page generation: Error rendering >> Maven report: >> [ERROR] Exit code: 1 - >> com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): >> warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type >> 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute': class file for >> javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute not found >> [ERROR] >> com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): >> warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type >> 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute' >> [ERROR] error: in class file >> com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): >> unknown enum constant javax.ejb.TransactionAttributeType.REQUIRES_NEW >> [ERROR] >> com/fuseim/process/action/CreateProcessListener.class(com/fuseim/process/action:CreateProcessListener.class): >> warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type >> 'javax.ejb.TransactionManagement': class file for >> javax.ejb.TransactionManagement not found >> >> Please help me with this issue. >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343797.html<http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-err
RE: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Hi, I did it, I get a really large output in the console, which finally shows tyhe message i wrote above :/ From: dennisl [via Maven] [ml-node+4344160-463539003-202...@n5.nabble.com] Sent: 27 April 2011 17:40 To: Leandro Iriarte Subject: Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error Hi Run the build with the -X command line option to get debugging output. That should help you to find out which report is causing the problem. Leandro skrev 2011-04-27 16:20: > Hi, > > I have a multi-project module with maven 3.0.2 > > I am trying to setup the site generation after all compile dependencies are > now resolved and no compile error is caused during mvn compile or mvn > install or mvn deploy. > > When I do a mvn site or mvn site:stage I get a compile error, anyone has a > clue what is going on ? Also a mvn clean install before site does not fix > this problem > > Besides I think is taking too much time, and I see the message "Forking > " more than three times per project. > > In my root pom I added the following code inside tag: > > > org.apache.maven.plugins > maven-site-plugin > 3.0-beta-2 > > ${basedir}/site/ > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins > maven-javadoc-plugin > 2.7 > > > org.apache.maven.plugins > > maven-project-info-reports-plugin > 2.2 > > > > dependencies > license > scm > project-team > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > 1) Why am I getting a compilation error only when I use mvn site? > > 2) Do I need to add the code below or similar to the subprojects as well? > (or is enough in the root pom?) > > 3) Do I need to add the true or the appropriate goal (aggregate) ? > > 4) Would I get an error if I do not write the site descriptor in each > subproject? > > 5) Is it normal that I am getting more than three "Forking " messages? > > Finally, the last error was: > > [ERROR] Failed to execute goal > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-site-plugin:3.0-beta-2:stage (default-cli) on > project xstreamline3-viewers: Error during page generation: Error rendering > Maven report: > [ERROR] Exit code: 1 - > com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): > warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type > 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute': class file for > javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute not found > [ERROR] > com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): > warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type > 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute' > [ERROR] error: in class file > com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): > unknown enum constant javax.ejb.TransactionAttributeType.REQUIRES_NEW > [ERROR] > com/fuseim/process/action/CreateProcessListener.class(com/fuseim/process/action:CreateProcessListener.class): > warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type > 'javax.ejb.TransactionManagement': class file for > javax.ejb.TransactionManagement not found > > Please help me with this issue. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343797.html<http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343797.html?by-user=t> > Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden > email] > For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden > email] > > -- Dennis Lundberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [hidden email] For additional commands, e-mail: [hidden email] If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/
Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Hi Run the build with the -X command line option to get debugging output. That should help you to find out which report is causing the problem. Leandro skrev 2011-04-27 16:20: > Hi, > > I have a multi-project module with maven 3.0.2 > > I am trying to setup the site generation after all compile dependencies are > now resolved and no compile error is caused during mvn compile or mvn > install or mvn deploy. > > When I do a mvn site or mvn site:stage I get a compile error, anyone has a > clue what is going on ? Also a mvn clean install before site does not fix > this problem > > Besides I think is taking too much time, and I see the message "Forking > " more than three times per project. > > In my root pom I added the following code inside tag: > > > org.apache.maven.plugins > maven-site-plugin > 3.0-beta-2 > > ${basedir}/site/ > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins > maven-javadoc-plugin > 2.7 > > > org.apache.maven.plugins > > maven-project-info-reports-plugin > 2.2 > > > > dependencies > license > scm > project-team > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > 1) Why am I getting a compilation error only when I use mvn site? > > 2) Do I need to add the code below or similar to the subprojects as well? > (or is enough in the root pom?) > > 3) Do I need to add the true or the appropriate goal (aggregate) ? > > 4) Would I get an error if I do not write the site descriptor in each > subproject? > > 5) Is it normal that I am getting more than three "Forking " messages? > > Finally, the last error was: > > [ERROR] Failed to execute goal > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-site-plugin:3.0-beta-2:stage (default-cli) on > project xstreamline3-viewers: Error during page generation: Error rendering > Maven report: > [ERROR] Exit code: 1 - > com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): > warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type > 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute': class file for > javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute not found > [ERROR] > com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): > warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type > 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute' > [ERROR] error: in class file > com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): > unknown enum constant javax.ejb.TransactionAttributeType.REQUIRES_NEW > [ERROR] > com/fuseim/process/action/CreateProcessListener.class(com/fuseim/process/action:CreateProcessListener.class): > warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type > 'javax.ejb.TransactionManagement': class file for > javax.ejb.TransactionManagement not found > > Please help me with this issue. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343797.html > Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > -- Dennis Lundberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
RE: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
From: Leandro [via Maven] [ml-node+4343898-557934331-202...@n5.nabble.com] Sent: 27 April 2011 16:04 To: Leandro Iriarte Subject: Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error I've just tried, exactly the same error If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343898.html To unsubscribe from mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error, click here<http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=4343797&code=bGVhbmRyby5pcmlhcnRlQGZ1c2VpbS5jb218NDM0Mzc5N3wtMTQ1MTMwNzY1>. -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343901.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
I've just tried, exactly the same error -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343898.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Have you tried with maven-site-plugin 3.0-beta-3 ? Also I don't remember why exaclty, I've got attach-descriptor attach-descriptor inside site , maybe it is needed for something to work OK? Em 27-04-2011 15:20, Leandro escreveu: Hi, I have a multi-project module with maven 3.0.2 I am trying to setup the site generation after all compile dependencies are now resolved and no compile error is caused during mvn compile or mvn install or mvn deploy. When I do a mvn site or mvn site:stage I get a compile error, anyone has a clue what is going on ? Also a mvn clean install before site does not fix this problem Besides I think is taking too much time, and I see the message "Forking " more than three times per project. In my root pom I added the following code inside tag: org.apache.maven.plugins maven-site-plugin 3.0-beta-2 ${basedir}/site/ org.apache.maven.plugins maven-javadoc-plugin 2.7 org.apache.maven.plugins maven-project-info-reports-plugin 2.2 dependencies license scm project-team I have a few doubts: 1) Why am I getting a compilation error only when I use mvn site? 2) Do I need to add the code below or similar to the subprojects as well? (or is enough in the root pom?) 3) Do I need to add the true or the appropriate goal (aggregate) ? 4) Would I get an error if I do not write the site descriptor in each subproject? 5) Is it normal that I am getting more than three "Forking " messages? Finally, the last error was: [ERROR] Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-site-plugin:3.0-beta-2:stage (default-cli) on project xstreamline3-viewers: Error during page generation: Error rendering Maven report: [ERROR] Exit code: 1 - com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute': class file for javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute not found [ERROR] com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type 'javax.ejb.TransactionAttribute' [ERROR] error: in class file com/fuseim/process/action/PollMessages.class(com/fuseim/process/action:PollMessages.class): unknown enum constant javax.ejb.TransactionAttributeType.REQUIRES_NEW [ERROR] com/fuseim/process/action/CreateProcessListener.class(com/fuseim/process/action:CreateProcessListener.class): warning: Cannot find annotation method 'value()' in type 'javax.ejb.TransactionManagement': class file for javax.ejb.TransactionManagement not found Please help me with this issue. -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/mvn-compile-works-mvn-site-deploy-causes-complation-error-tp4343797p4343797.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
it appears the site deploy is using different source code or different plugins to compilation. Which report is causing the failure? Does the nature of the compile error indicate the problem? Unfortunately the information in your mail is not enough to go on much further. Good luck, Brett 2008/9/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello, > > i try to setup my multi module project. I am trying to setup the site > generation after all compile dependencies are now resolved and no compile > error is caused durring mvn compile. > When i do a mvn site-deploy i get a compile error, anyone has a clue what > the heck is going on ? Also a mvn clean before does not fix this problem :/ > > best regards, > Jens > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Brett Porter Blog: http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
RE: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Hello, i am not compiling any JSP. It happend durring site-deploy - Jens Jens- *if this is happening at deploy* then a best guess would be that the jspc (jasper compiler) phase is failing http://mojo.codehaus.org/jspc/jspc-maven-plugin/usage.html can you force the jasper-compiler to execute and compile the jsp pages BEFORE deployment any diags such as stacktraces from the logs would be most helpful ? Martin __ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relates to the official business of Sender. This transmission is of a confidential nature and Sender does not endorse distribution to any party other than intended recipient. Sender does not necessarily endorse content contained within this transmission. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: users@maven.apache.org > Subject: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:15:53 +0200 > > Hello, > > i try to setup my multi module project. I am trying to setup the site generation after all compile dependencies are now resolved and no compile error is caused durring mvn compile. > When i do a mvn site-deploy i get a compile error, anyone has a clue what the heck is going on ? Also a mvn clean before does not fix this problem :/ > > best regards, > Jens > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F68 1DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error
Jens- *if this is happening at deploy* then a best guess would be that the jspc (jasper compiler) phase is failing http://mojo.codehaus.org/jspc/jspc-maven-plugin/usage.html can you force the jasper-compiler to execute and compile the jsp pages BEFORE deployment any diags such as stacktraces from the logs would be most helpful ? Martin __ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relates to the official business of Sender. This transmission is of a confidential nature and Sender does not endorse distribution to any party other than intended recipient. Sender does not necessarily endorse content contained within this transmission. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: users@maven.apache.org > Subject: mvn compile works mvn site-deploy causes complation error > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:15:53 +0200 > > Hello, > > i try to setup my multi module project. I am trying to setup the site > generation after all compile dependencies are now resolved and no compile > error is caused durring mvn compile. > When i do a mvn site-deploy i get a compile error, anyone has a clue what the > heck is going on ? Also a mvn clean before does not fix this problem :/ > > best regards, > Jens > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008