Re: Subversion post-commit hook
yes On 6/13/06, Lee Meador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do I remember right that you can build a tagged version? On 6/13/06, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, it isn't possible to build a particular revision and I don't see the > interest to do it if the > code in subversion isn't the latest. > > Emmanuel > > Lee Meador a écrit : > > To make it work the way I hear you wanting, it looks like you need > > something > > that notices the changed Subverions revision number and knows the last > > revision number that continuum built. Then it causes Continuum to build > the > > version after the last one built and repeats builds after that of each > > subversion version number up to the current one. > > > > I'm not sure if you can tell Continuum to build a particular Subversion > > version number. > > > > I'm not sure what would happen if a lot of little changes get made all > at > > once. There could be quite a backlog of builds to do. > > > > It would even build a version where the only change was to add a space > in a > > pom, for example, or other change that wouldn't effect the build outcome > at > > all. Of course, all you would lose is the time. > > > > -- Lee > > > > On 6/13/06, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> On 6/13/06, Baron Reznik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 18:28 +0200, Carlos Sanchez wrote: > >> > > On 6/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: > >> > > > -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could > >> potentially be more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be > >> building multiple revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want > to > >> build once/revision so if the build breaks, you know which commit > >> broke it. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > You are not considering here the time that it takes to build the > >> project. > >> > > a commits > >> > > continuum starts building > >> > > b commits > >> > > continuum can't start building, busy > >> > > c commits > >> > > continuum can't start building, busy > >> > > continuum finishes building > >> > > continuum starts building b and c changes > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ^^^ That's exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it will build 1 > >> > revision, and other times 2 or more revisions could be mixed into one > >> > build. I'd like to avoid that. > >> > > >> > >> You can't avoid this with a post commit hook > >> > >> > > > >> > > > -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn > >> server. If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up > >> when > >> it's once every 5 mins. > >> > > > >> > > I don't realy know what is the overhead of getting the revision > >> number > >> > > to check for changes but shouldn't be heavy at all > >> > > > >> > > >> > I don't know how you verify this, but I got the impression that > >> > continuum was performing a 'svn update' (for subversion, anyways), > >> > which, could be rather heavy depending on how your repository is laid > >> > out. I'm not sure offhand if subversion provides a more efficient way > >> > though. > >> > > >> > >> svn info gives you the local revision > >> svn info URL gives you the remote one > >> > >> conitnuum may be improved to use this instead of a checkout if it does > >> not currently > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit > >> check if there were new projects added, and automagically add them to > >> continuum as well. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -Original Message- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez > >> > > > Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM > >> > > > To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org > >> > > > Subject: Re: Subversion post-co
Re: Subversion post-commit hook
Do I remember right that you can build a tagged version? On 6/13/06, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, it isn't possible to build a particular revision and I don't see the interest to do it if the code in subversion isn't the latest. Emmanuel Lee Meador a écrit : > To make it work the way I hear you wanting, it looks like you need > something > that notices the changed Subverions revision number and knows the last > revision number that continuum built. Then it causes Continuum to build the > version after the last one built and repeats builds after that of each > subversion version number up to the current one. > > I'm not sure if you can tell Continuum to build a particular Subversion > version number. > > I'm not sure what would happen if a lot of little changes get made all at > once. There could be quite a backlog of builds to do. > > It would even build a version where the only change was to add a space in a > pom, for example, or other change that wouldn't effect the build outcome at > all. Of course, all you would lose is the time. > > -- Lee > > On 6/13/06, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 6/13/06, Baron Reznik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 18:28 +0200, Carlos Sanchez wrote: >> > > On 6/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> wrote: >> > > > I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: >> > > > -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could >> potentially be more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be >> building multiple revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want to >> build once/revision so if the build breaks, you know which commit >> broke it. >> > > >> > > >> > > You are not considering here the time that it takes to build the >> project. >> > > a commits >> > > continuum starts building >> > > b commits >> > > continuum can't start building, busy >> > > c commits >> > > continuum can't start building, busy >> > > continuum finishes building >> > > continuum starts building b and c changes >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ^^^ That's exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it will build 1 >> > revision, and other times 2 or more revisions could be mixed into one >> > build. I'd like to avoid that. >> > >> >> You can't avoid this with a post commit hook >> >> > > >> > > > -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn >> server. If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up >> when >> it's once every 5 mins. >> > > >> > > I don't realy know what is the overhead of getting the revision >> number >> > > to check for changes but shouldn't be heavy at all >> > > >> > >> > I don't know how you verify this, but I got the impression that >> > continuum was performing a 'svn update' (for subversion, anyways), >> > which, could be rather heavy depending on how your repository is laid >> > out. I'm not sure offhand if subversion provides a more efficient way >> > though. >> > >> >> svn info gives you the local revision >> svn info URL gives you the remote one >> >> conitnuum may be improved to use this instead of a checkout if it does >> not currently >> >> > > > >> > > > If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit >> check if there were new projects added, and automagically add them to >> continuum as well. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -Original Message- >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez >> > > > Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM >> > > > To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org >> > > > Subject: Re: Subversion post-commit hook >> > > > >> > > > why do you need that, setting a short period like 5 min is not >> enough? >> > > > >> > > > On 6/8/06, Chris Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in >> > > > > Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an >> xml-rpc >> > > > > client. >> > > > > >> > > > > Has anyone developed a post
Re: Subversion post-commit hook
No, it isn't possible to build a particular revision and I don't see the interest to do it if the code in subversion isn't the latest. Emmanuel Lee Meador a écrit : To make it work the way I hear you wanting, it looks like you need something that notices the changed Subverions revision number and knows the last revision number that continuum built. Then it causes Continuum to build the version after the last one built and repeats builds after that of each subversion version number up to the current one. I'm not sure if you can tell Continuum to build a particular Subversion version number. I'm not sure what would happen if a lot of little changes get made all at once. There could be quite a backlog of builds to do. It would even build a version where the only change was to add a space in a pom, for example, or other change that wouldn't effect the build outcome at all. Of course, all you would lose is the time. -- Lee On 6/13/06, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/13/06, Baron Reznik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 18:28 +0200, Carlos Sanchez wrote: > > On 6/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: > > > -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could potentially be more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be building multiple revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want to build once/revision so if the build breaks, you know which commit broke it. > > > > > > You are not considering here the time that it takes to build the project. > > a commits > > continuum starts building > > b commits > > continuum can't start building, busy > > c commits > > continuum can't start building, busy > > continuum finishes building > > continuum starts building b and c changes > > > > > > ^^^ That's exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it will build 1 > revision, and other times 2 or more revisions could be mixed into one > build. I'd like to avoid that. > You can't avoid this with a post commit hook > > > > > -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn server. If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up when it's once every 5 mins. > > > > I don't realy know what is the overhead of getting the revision number > > to check for changes but shouldn't be heavy at all > > > > I don't know how you verify this, but I got the impression that > continuum was performing a 'svn update' (for subversion, anyways), > which, could be rather heavy depending on how your repository is laid > out. I'm not sure offhand if subversion provides a more efficient way > though. > svn info gives you the local revision svn info URL gives you the remote one conitnuum may be improved to use this instead of a checkout if it does not currently > > > > > > If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit check if there were new projects added, and automagically add them to continuum as well. > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez > > > Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM > > > To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Subversion post-commit hook > > > > > > why do you need that, setting a short period like 5 min is not enough? > > > > > > On 6/8/06, Chris Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in > > > > Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an xml-rpc > > > > client. > > > > > > > > Has anyone developed a post-commit hook into Continuum from Subversion? > > > > Is there related documentation available? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain > > > > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated > > > > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or > > > > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual > > > > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, > > > > and have received this message in error, please immediately return this > > > > by email and then delete it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I could give you my word as a Spaniard. > > > No good. I've known too many Spaniards. > > > -- The Princess Bride > > > > > > > > > > > -- I could give you my word as a Spaniard. No good. I've known too many Spaniards. -- The Princess Bride
Re: Subversion post-commit hook
To make it work the way I hear you wanting, it looks like you need something that notices the changed Subverions revision number and knows the last revision number that continuum built. Then it causes Continuum to build the version after the last one built and repeats builds after that of each subversion version number up to the current one. I'm not sure if you can tell Continuum to build a particular Subversion version number. I'm not sure what would happen if a lot of little changes get made all at once. There could be quite a backlog of builds to do. It would even build a version where the only change was to add a space in a pom, for example, or other change that wouldn't effect the build outcome at all. Of course, all you would lose is the time. -- Lee On 6/13/06, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/13/06, Baron Reznik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 18:28 +0200, Carlos Sanchez wrote: > > On 6/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: > > > -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could potentially be more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be building multiple revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want to build once/revision so if the build breaks, you know which commit broke it. > > > > > > You are not considering here the time that it takes to build the project. > > a commits > > continuum starts building > > b commits > > continuum can't start building, busy > > c commits > > continuum can't start building, busy > > continuum finishes building > > continuum starts building b and c changes > > > > > > ^^^ That's exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it will build 1 > revision, and other times 2 or more revisions could be mixed into one > build. I'd like to avoid that. > You can't avoid this with a post commit hook > > > > > -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn server. If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up when it's once every 5 mins. > > > > I don't realy know what is the overhead of getting the revision number > > to check for changes but shouldn't be heavy at all > > > > I don't know how you verify this, but I got the impression that > continuum was performing a 'svn update' (for subversion, anyways), > which, could be rather heavy depending on how your repository is laid > out. I'm not sure offhand if subversion provides a more efficient way > though. > svn info gives you the local revision svn info URL gives you the remote one conitnuum may be improved to use this instead of a checkout if it does not currently > > > > > > If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit check if there were new projects added, and automagically add them to continuum as well. > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez > > > Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM > > > To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Subversion post-commit hook > > > > > > why do you need that, setting a short period like 5 min is not enough? > > > > > > On 6/8/06, Chris Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in > > > > Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an xml-rpc > > > > client. > > > > > > > > Has anyone developed a post-commit hook into Continuum from Subversion? > > > > Is there related documentation available? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain > > > > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated > > > > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or > > > > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual > > > > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, > > > > and have received this message in error, please immediately return this > > > > by email and then delete it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I could give you my word as a Spaniard. > > > No good. I've known too many Spaniards. > > > -- The Princess Bride > > > > > > > > > > > -- I could give you my word as a Spaniard. No good. I've known too many Spaniards. -- The Princess Bride -- -- Lee Meador Sent from gmail. My real email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subversion post-commit hook
On 6/13/06, Baron Reznik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 18:28 +0200, Carlos Sanchez wrote: > On 6/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: > > -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could potentially be more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be building multiple revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want to build once/revision so if the build breaks, you know which commit broke it. > > > You are not considering here the time that it takes to build the project. > a commits > continuum starts building > b commits > continuum can't start building, busy > c commits > continuum can't start building, busy > continuum finishes building > continuum starts building b and c changes > > ^^^ That's exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it will build 1 revision, and other times 2 or more revisions could be mixed into one build. I'd like to avoid that. You can't avoid this with a post commit hook > > > -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn server. If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up when it's once every 5 mins. > > I don't realy know what is the overhead of getting the revision number > to check for changes but shouldn't be heavy at all > I don't know how you verify this, but I got the impression that continuum was performing a 'svn update' (for subversion, anyways), which, could be rather heavy depending on how your repository is laid out. I'm not sure offhand if subversion provides a more efficient way though. svn info gives you the local revision svn info URL gives you the remote one conitnuum may be improved to use this instead of a checkout if it does not currently > > > > If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit check if there were new projects added, and automagically add them to continuum as well. > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez > > Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM > > To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Subversion post-commit hook > > > > why do you need that, setting a short period like 5 min is not enough? > > > > On 6/8/06, Chris Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in > > > Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an xml-rpc > > > client. > > > > > > Has anyone developed a post-commit hook into Continuum from Subversion? > > > Is there related documentation available? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain > > > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated > > > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or > > > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual > > > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, > > > and have received this message in error, please immediately return this > > > by email and then delete it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > I could give you my word as a Spaniard. > > No good. I've known too many Spaniards. > > -- The Princess Bride > > > > > > -- I could give you my word as a Spaniard. No good. I've known too many Spaniards. -- The Princess Bride
Re: Subversion post-commit hook
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 18:28 +0200, Carlos Sanchez wrote: > On 6/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: > > -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could potentially be > > more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be building multiple > > revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want to build once/revision > > so if the build breaks, you know which commit broke it. > > > You are not considering here the time that it takes to build the project. > a commits > continuum starts building > b commits > continuum can't start building, busy > c commits > continuum can't start building, busy > continuum finishes building > continuum starts building b and c changes > > ^^^ That's exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it will build 1 revision, and other times 2 or more revisions could be mixed into one build. I'd like to avoid that. > > > -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn server. > > If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up when it's > > once every 5 mins. > > I don't realy know what is the overhead of getting the revision number > to check for changes but shouldn't be heavy at all > I don't know how you verify this, but I got the impression that continuum was performing a 'svn update' (for subversion, anyways), which, could be rather heavy depending on how your repository is laid out. I'm not sure offhand if subversion provides a more efficient way though. > > > > If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit check if > > there were new projects added, and automagically add them to continuum as > > well. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez > > Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM > > To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Subversion post-commit hook > > > > why do you need that, setting a short period like 5 min is not enough? > > > > On 6/8/06, Chris Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in > > > Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an xml-rpc > > > client. > > > > > > Has anyone developed a post-commit hook into Continuum from Subversion? > > > Is there related documentation available? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain > > > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated > > > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or > > > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual > > > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, > > > and have received this message in error, please immediately return this > > > by email and then delete it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > I could give you my word as a Spaniard. > > No good. I've known too many Spaniards. > > -- The Princess Bride > > > > > >
Re: Subversion post-commit hook
On 6/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could potentially be more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be building multiple revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want to build once/revision so if the build breaks, you know which commit broke it. You are not considering here the time that it takes to build the project. a commits continuum starts building b commits continuum can't start building, busy c commits continuum can't start building, busy continuum finishes building continuum starts building b and c changes -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn server. If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up when it's once every 5 mins. I don't realy know what is the overhead of getting the revision number to check for changes but shouldn't be heavy at all If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit check if there were new projects added, and automagically add them to continuum as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org Subject: Re: Subversion post-commit hook why do you need that, setting a short period like 5 min is not enough? On 6/8/06, Chris Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in > Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an xml-rpc > client. > > Has anyone developed a post-commit hook into Continuum from Subversion? > Is there related documentation available? > > Thanks. > > -Chris > > > ___ > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, > and have received this message in error, please immediately return this > by email and then delete it. > > -- I could give you my word as a Spaniard. No good. I've known too many Spaniards. -- The Princess Bride -- I could give you my word as a Spaniard. No good. I've known too many Spaniards. -- The Princess Bride
Re: Subversion post-commit hook
xml-rpc documentation is there : http://maven.apache.org/continuum/guides/mini/guide-xmlrpc-api.html Emmanuel Chris Wall a écrit : We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an xml-rpc client. Has anyone developed a post-commit hook into Continuum from Subversion? Is there related documentation available? Thanks. -Chris ___ Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please immediately return this by email and then delete it.
RE: Subversion post-commit hook
For us, it's more the latter - efficient use of the server. We don't mind if multiple check-ins are built at the same time. Ideally Continuum builds are executed only when requested. That enables the server on which Continuum runs to focus on other functions. A side bonus of a trigger mechanism is that developers don't have to wait a specified time interval + build time to validate their change. -Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 08, 2006 2:03 PM To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org; continuum-users@maven.apache.org Subject: RE: Subversion post-commit hook I know I'd find this useful as well, for several reasons: -If you simply let continuum build every 5 mins, there could potentially be more than 1 commit during that time, and you would be building multiple revisions worth of changes. Ideally, you would want to build once/revision so if the build breaks, you know which commit broke it. -The continuum server would not be making as many hits to the svn server. If you're building dozens and dozens of projects, this adds up when it's once every 5 mins. If you got rather fancy, it would sure be nice to have the commit check if there were new projects added, and automagically add them to continuum as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Sanchez Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 1:54 PM To: continuum-users@maven.apache.org Subject: Re: Subversion post-commit hook why do you need that, setting a short period like 5 min is not enough? On 6/8/06, Chris Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'd like to trigger Continuum builds upon developer commits in > Subversion. It sounds like to do so we need to develop an xml-rpc > client. > > Has anyone developed a post-commit hook into Continuum from Subversion? > Is there related documentation available? > > Thanks. > > -Chris > > > ___ > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, > and have received this message in error, please immediately return this > by email and then delete it. > > -- I could give you my word as a Spaniard. No good. I've known too many Spaniards. -- The Princess Bride ___ Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please immediately return this by email and then delete it.