Re: Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

[John McDonnell]

Hi Miroslav,

While I wouldn't be a user of this, I think its great to see someone so
passionate about new features in NetBeans.

But I think the pushback your seeing is that while its great to see new
feature requests, the operating model of NetBeans has changed with the move
to Apache.  In the past, you might have been able to put forward a new
feature request, and in a future release, it might have arrived.  This
isn't how NetBeans works moving forward.  We're now a community-driven
project, if you have a feature request then please do add it to JIRA[1],
and comment on the mailing lists about it, encourage others to vote for
it.

But in the end, it's going to need a "champion", someone that can take the
time to look to implement the feature, or indeed someone to organise a few
people to work on it if its a larger feature and others show an interest.
Without this "champion" it's hard to see any feature request get
implemented if no one else sees's its benefit.

Probably one of the best things you could do is to create a JIRA, and then
maybe start a confluence page under[2], documenting what the actual
requirement is.  Break down the areas of the IDE that might be affected,
what might need to change, what might need to be added etc...  Maybe then
as people see how much effort is involved,  it might help others get
involved.  Maybe you might then see that its enough for one people and
implement it into the IDE, or maybe you might see there's a lot of work to
be done and it might not be worth it in the end - I just don't know.


[1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues
[2]:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Feature+Request+Outlines

Regards

John

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 14:52, Miroslav Nachev 
wrote:

> Having in mind, that the heaviest work has already been done with
> WebEngine (WebView), HTMLEditor and the dynamic adding of components,
> JavaScript, CSS, Web functionality and communication between Java Objects
> and Web Objects, the rest is not that complicated.
> Almost every day we use WebEngine on JavaFX 10 and I can say, it behaves
> like a very stable browser on all the sites I've visited. I would say it
> does not give way to Chrome, Edge, etc.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Kai Uwe Pel  wrote:
>
>> +++ 1
>>
>> On 8/13/2018 3:27 PM, Bayless wrote:
>>
>> Good answer Geertjan!
>>
>> Bayless
>>
>> On 08/13/2018 07:11 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>
>> I think relatively easy tasks do not exist in software development.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Miroslav Nachev <
>> mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In case, that JavaFX replace Swing for NetBeans GUI, creating a Visual
>>> Web Designer will be a relatively easy task. What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Miro.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

[Miroslav Nachev]

 Having in mind, that the heaviest work has already been done with
WebEngine (WebView), HTMLEditor and the dynamic adding of components,
JavaScript, CSS, Web functionality and communication between Java Objects
and Web Objects, the rest is not that complicated.
Almost every day we use WebEngine on JavaFX 10 and I can say, it behaves
like a very stable browser on all the sites I've visited. I would say it
does not give way to Chrome, Edge, etc.


On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Kai Uwe Pel  wrote:

> +++ 1
>
> On 8/13/2018 3:27 PM, Bayless wrote:
>
> Good answer Geertjan!
>
> Bayless
>
> On 08/13/2018 07:11 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> I think relatively easy tasks do not exist in software development.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Miroslav Nachev <
> mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In case, that JavaFX replace Swing for NetBeans GUI, creating a Visual
>> Web Designer will be a relatively easy task. What do you think?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Miro.
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

[Kai Uwe Pel]

+++ 1

On 8/13/2018 3:27 PM, Bayless wrote:


Good answer Geertjan!

Bayless


On 08/13/2018 07:11 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

I think relatively easy tasks do not exist in software development.

Gj

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Miroslav Nachev 
> wrote:


Hi,

In case, that JavaFX replace Swing for NetBeans GUI, creating a
Visual Web Designer will be a relatively easy task. What do you
think?


Regards,
Miro.

Re: Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

[Bayless]

Good answer Geertjan!

Bayless


On 08/13/2018 07:11 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

I think relatively easy tasks do not exist in software development.

Gj

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Miroslav Nachev 
mailto:mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Hi,

In case, that JavaFX replace Swing for NetBeans GUI, creating a
Visual Web Designer will be a relatively easy task. What do you think?


Regards,
Miro.

Re: Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

[Stephen Winnall]

Oh, they do, but the things they are relative to are already very difficult... 
:-)

> On 13 Aug 2018, at 20:11, Geertjan Wielenga 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think relatively easy tasks do not exist in software development.
> 
> Gj
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Miroslav Nachev 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In case, that JavaFX replace Swing for NetBeans GUI, creating a Visual Web 
>> Designer will be a relatively easy task. What do you think?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Miro.
>> 
> 

Re: Installing c++ module on 9 offline

[Marco Ambu]

Ok, now it is working. However I can't find the cnd module there.
It seems that is only for extra plugins, not for full language support.
Any suggestions?

Thanks

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018, 10:04 Geertjan Wielenga,
 wrote:

> Yes, that's been mentioned a few times now on this mailing list --
> plugins.netbeans.org is down and we're hoping to have it back up ASAP.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Marco Ambu  wrote:
>
>> That address for the plugin portal is not available. Does anyone know if
>> there are issues?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 09:35 Dani Lanaya, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, you would want to download the relevant .nbm file for the plugin
>>> from the plugin portal http://plugins.netbeans.org/PluginPortal/ and
>>> copy it to your dev box. Then you can install it from the "Downloaded" tab
>>> of the Plugins dialog. http://wiki.netbeans.org/InstallingAPlugin
>>>
>>> Best
>>> dani
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:04 AM Marco Ambu  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I see it is possible to install plugins and modules from netbeans 8.2
 update centre by configuring the IDE to point to it.
 I was wondering if it was possible to install the c++ module offline,
 downloading the required packages from somewhere. I have a linux dev box
 not connected to internet but want to use netbeans 9 for c++.

 Thanks,
 Marco
 --
 Marco Ambu

>>> --
>> Marco Ambu
>>
>
> --
Marco Ambu

Re: Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I think relatively easy tasks do not exist in software development.

Gj

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Miroslav Nachev <
mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In case, that JavaFX replace Swing for NetBeans GUI, creating a Visual Web
> Designer will be a relatively easy task. What do you think?
>
>
> Regards,
> Miro.
>
>

Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

[Miroslav Nachev]

Hi,

In case, that JavaFX replace Swing for NetBeans GUI, creating a Visual Web
Designer will be a relatively easy task. What do you think?


Regards,
Miro.

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Sure, make it happen -- and here's where you can provide the pull request:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls

You can work with others on this project, put together a proposal, and code
your solution.

Gj



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Miroslav Nachev <
mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Are there any plans NetBeans to use JavaFX for own GUI instead Swing?
>
>
> Miro.
>
>

Re: Visual Web Designer

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Those have not been part of NetBeans for at least about 10 years...

Gj

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Miroslav Nachev <
mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is Visual Web Designer functionality still available?
>
> I can not see in NetBeans v9.0 Visual Web Designer, including the Visual
> Designer, Page Navigator, Query Editor, and Style Editor? Any ideas?
> https://netbeans.org/community/magazine/html/03/visualwebdev/
>
>
> Regards,
> Miro.
>
>
>

Visual Web Designer

[Miroslav Nachev]

Hi,

Is Visual Web Designer functionality still available?

I can not see in NetBeans v9.0 Visual Web Designer, including the Visual
Designer, Page Navigator, Query Editor, and Style Editor? Any ideas?
https://netbeans.org/community/magazine/html/03/visualwebdev/


Regards,
Miro.

Re: Installing c++ module on 9 offline

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yes, that's been mentioned a few times now on this mailing list --
plugins.netbeans.org is down and we're hoping to have it back up ASAP.

Gj

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Marco Ambu  wrote:

> That address for the plugin portal is not available. Does anyone know if
> there are issues?
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 09:35 Dani Lanaya,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, you would want to download the relevant .nbm file for the plugin
>> from the plugin portal http://plugins.netbeans.org/PluginPortal/ and
>> copy it to your dev box. Then you can install it from the "Downloaded" tab
>> of the Plugins dialog. http://wiki.netbeans.org/InstallingAPlugin
>>
>> Best
>> dani
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:04 AM Marco Ambu  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I see it is possible to install plugins and modules from netbeans 8.2
>>> update centre by configuring the IDE to point to it.
>>> I was wondering if it was possible to install the c++ module offline,
>>> downloading the required packages from somewhere. I have a linux dev box
>>> not connected to internet but want to use netbeans 9 for c++.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marco
>>> --
>>> Marco Ambu
>>>
>> --
> Marco Ambu
>

Re: Installing c++ module on 9 offline

[Marco Ambu]

That address for the plugin portal is not available. Does anyone know if
there are issues?

On Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 09:35 Dani Lanaya,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, you would want to download the relevant .nbm file for the plugin from
> the plugin portal http://plugins.netbeans.org/PluginPortal/ and copy it
> to your dev box. Then you can install it from the "Downloaded" tab of the
> Plugins dialog. http://wiki.netbeans.org/InstallingAPlugin
>
> Best
> dani
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:04 AM Marco Ambu  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I see it is possible to install plugins and modules from netbeans 8.2
>> update centre by configuring the IDE to point to it.
>> I was wondering if it was possible to install the c++ module offline,
>> downloading the required packages from somewhere. I have a linux dev box
>> not connected to internet but want to use netbeans 9 for c++.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marco
>> --
>> Marco Ambu
>>
> --
Marco Ambu

RE: Issue registering to netbeans.org

[Marco Andries]

Hello Jirka,

Thanks for the shiny & new temporary credentials! They work like a charm
Could it be that http://plugins.netbeans.org/PluginPortal/ is currently down?

Kind regards,
Marco


-Original Message-
From: Jiří Kovalský  
Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018 15:46
To: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Issue registering to netbeans.org

I have just resolved this and sent their shiny & new temporary credentials a 
few seconds ago.

As for the Plugin Portal, it can be still a question of weeks I assume. 
I believe Apache NetBeans IDE 9.1 will already have the Plugin Portal hosted on 
the Apache infrastructure.

-Jirka

Dne 10.8.2018 v 14:50 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):

> Did you miss the e-mail you got from Jiri Kovalsky with your login details?
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Friday, August 10, 2018, Marco Andries  > wrote:
> 
> Any news on when the plugins portal will be moved?
> 
> In the meantime could the developm...@itextpdf.com
>  account in netbeans.org
> 
> 
> be activated manually so that we at iText can share a nice plugin to
> the Netbeans community?
> 
> __ __
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Marco
> 
> __ __
> 
> *From:*Marco Andries  >
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 August 2018 10:55
> *To:* us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> 
> *Subject:* Issue registering to netbeans.org
> 
>  MFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Ieh
> hQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=clpBFgP0tqVAAps26aP0rDEFyl_J_tCXKR9j7bTq6
> w4=JHXY57iTLlJa3224OigTgOn73xdpPNmgw3nx2sKXMLY=>
> 
> __ __
> 
> Hi,
> 
> __ __
> 
> As the plugins portal still has to be moved to Apache, I am trying
> to create a new account (developm...@itextpdf.com
> )in netbeans.org
> 
> 
> to publish a plugin created at iText.
> 
> The problem is that I don’t receive a verification mail.
> 
> On the mailing lists archive from July I have read that it’s best to
> wait until the plugins portal has been moved (thread from the 6^th
> of July) but how long would this take?
> 
> __ __
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Marco
> 

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