RE: Re: AI assistant for NetBeans
When the AI hype train was just getting rolling last year I thought I would try this out to write a basic but non-trivial algorithm. I wanted to implement a method to get the nodes and weights for Gauss-Laguerre quadrature integration for the Gamma function for any number of nodes, rather than just using a hard-coded series of arrays for the numbers. I didn't need to do this (the hard-coded array approach works) but I thought this was an interesting test because it's not an everyday garden topic that the AI will just be able to cut and paste from Stack Overflow. On the other hand it does have a known solution so it can be shown whether the AI solution is any good or not. The AI was able to generate a plausible looking solution very quickly and confidently. Which was, at first glance, impressive. Wow. It compiled first time and ran. Syntactically it was great. And that is where the positives end. The code wasn't just wrong in terms of being close, but inaccurate. It was just gibberish. The results weren't even vaguely in the ballpark. People talk about AI being able to pass university exam level questions... what a load of rubbish. This was clearly plagarised so badly that the 'student' submitting the answer was clueless that their answer was even wrong. The AI had no idea -- and why would it. It is nothing more than a large neural net that has produced a sequence of tokens based on another input sequence of tokens. At its heart it is nothing more than a sophisticated regression algorithm based on a series of data points which were used to train it. What we are doing is the equivalent of deriving a line of best fit through a cloud of data points and then asking the algorithm to extrapolate based on that regression equation. It works -- of course it does, it's just an equation -- but fundamentally it is grossly misleading. Any decently educated person knows that extrapolation is fraught with error. And that is all AI is (with the techniques used today). A sophisticated extrapolation engine. Anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves. Andreas is, in my view, completely right. If you rely on AI for coding you will spend more time correcting the code than you would writing it yourself. More than that, the code appears very neat, so the errors are not obvious at first. Writing the code yourself will also bring you closer to it, and that familiarity will breed insight that AI never had to start with and certainly cannot impart to its users. Why would you want to give up that side benefit from writing your own code? AI is, in my view, one of the more dangerous fads to come out recently. Not necessarily because of the harm it might do itself, but because it drives a false sense of security amongst those that do not understand it -- which is to say most of the world, as there are very few people I've met who are able to explain to me how it works, even on a basic level. Perversely this could lead to a loss of knowledge and intelligence amongst the non-machine population. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm just a modern-day Luddite. I'd be interested to know if there are any genuine real-world cases where AI code is useful. I was thinking that maybe boilerplate code, like when writing GUI etc. but NetBeans Matisse already has that covered just fine. How would AI improve this? It wouldn't have a chance improving on many of the algorithms I write for solving engineering problems for the simple reason that many of those algorithms never existed before I wrote them and I'm proud to admit that I had to fall back on real intelligence, and not artificial intelligence, to write them :-) Anyway, an interesting topic! Peter On 2024/02/08 16:17:51 Andreas Reichel wrote: > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 11:16 -0500, Alonso Del Arte wrote: > > There isn't, but probably soon there will be. If it's built-in, it > > better come with an off switch. But if BlueJ adds an AI assistant, > > then we're really in trouble. > > I have tried them all on IntelliJ and I can tell you: they are rubbish! > OpenAI is great for looking up JAVA or C API efficiently and for this > case you have a 50% chance to get something useful (although 50% chance > of getting completely wrong information, like Java Libraries that don't > exist.) > > But in the IDE it is just annoying. You will spend more time correcting > the suggestions than writing code. > > Example: ask for a Java Example of Prophet Time Series Forecast! Or ask > for a sample of RGBA to ARGB Byte Swapping using SSE or AVX. > The given information will be TOTALLY wrong and fantasy! > > Cheers > Andreas > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Error highlighting for editor in NetBeans RCP application
Update.
Turns out that when I previous tried enabling every single module in the
the 'ide' and 'platform' I hadn't done a clean a build. When tried again
and did this, the error highlighting worked. After some laborious trial
and error I found that the module I needed to have enabled was the
'Project UI' module in 'ide'. I didn't have this enabled in my platform
application as I was just loading a file. I'll need the Project UI
eventually, so it's not a drama.
Peter
On 14/01/2024 10:45 pm, Peter Kirkham wrote:
Hello there,
I've not had to reach out to the NetBeans community for a while,
although I've been using NetBeans and the RCP for many years.
Most of the work I've done has involved embedding different
Swing-based JPanels in TopComponents and just leveraging the
platform's windowing system etc. Recently I started to develop an
editor for a custom language, which is the first time I've done this.
I've been following the tutorials, and learning a lot about lexing and
parsing etc. Along the way I've run into a few speed bumps, but I've
been able to resolve everything by reading the copious documentation
on the platform or, on occasion, delving into the source on GitHub to
see how a particular issue was been resolved in the IDE itself.
There is one issue I cannot seem to find an answer for.
*The BACKGROUND*
This relates to error highlighting. As per the error highlighting
tutorial
(https://netbeans.apache.org/tutorial/main/tutorials/nbm-javacc-parser/#_implementing_a_new_feature_error_parsing)
I've create an error highlighting task that extends ParserResultTask
and implemented a factory that extends TaskFactory:
public class EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask extends
ParserResultTask {
@Override
public void run(EclParserResult result, SchedulerEvent event) {
LOG.log(Level.INFO, "Running EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask: {0}", new
Object[]{event.toString()});
try {
[ omitted ...]
} catch (BadLocationException |
org.netbeans.modules.parsing.spi.ParseException ex) {
Exceptions.printStackTrace(ex);
}
}
@Override
public int getPriority() {
return 100;
}
@Override
public Class getSchedulerClass() {
return Scheduler.EDITOR_SENSITIVE_TASK_SCHEDULER;
}
@Override
public void cancel() {
}
}
and
@MimeRegistration(mimeType = "text/x-eclipse", service = TaskFactory.class)
public class EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory extends TaskFactory {
@Override
public Collection create(Snapshot snapshot) {
EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask task = new
EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask();
LOG.log(Level.INFO, "Created EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from {0}",
new Object[]{snapshot.toString()});
return Collections.singleton(task);
}
}
Note I've added a couple of logging events so I can see when the
factory is called and creates the highlighting task, and also see when
the task is run. For the eagle-eyed, yes the language is called the
eclipse language, but it is nothing to do with that other IDE. It's a
reservoir simulation language in the oil and gas industry that dates
back to the 1980s...
*The ISSUE*
When I run the custom language model as a module within the IDE
(right-click the module and Run), everything works a charm. Opening a
file generates the following in the log:
INFO
[au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory]:
Created EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from Snapshot 1894046798:
ECLIPSE_Test_Deck.ecl
INFO
[au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory]:
Created EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from Snapshot 1894046798:
ECLIPSE_Test_Deck.ecl
INFO
[au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask]:
Running EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask: SchedulerEvent
1007833880(source: CurrentDocumentScheduler)
INFO
[au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask]:
Running EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask: SchedulerEvent
210858918(source: CurrentDocumentScheduler)
So the task is being created and added to the Scheduler, and is being run.
Now, rather than running as a standalone module, what I really want to
do is to put the module into my platform suite. Adding the module into
the platform suite and then running the application works for
everything except the error highlighting. So far I've done syntax
highlighting, code completion, code reformatting, code folding, match
occurrences. It's all working. But the error highlighting stubbornly
does nothing. Not even having the decency to throw an exception...
When opening my custom language file, the log now shows:
22:09:48 [EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory|INFO]: Created
EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from Snapshot 1437838154:
ECLIPSE_Test_Deck.ecl
So it appears that the highlighting task gets created, but it just
isn't being run
Error highlighting for editor in NetBeans RCP application
Hello there,
I've not had to reach out to the NetBeans community for a while,
although I've been using NetBeans and the RCP for many years.
Most of the work I've done has involved embedding different Swing-based
JPanels in TopComponents and just leveraging the platform's windowing
system etc. Recently I started to develop an editor for a custom
language, which is the first time I've done this. I've been following
the tutorials, and learning a lot about lexing and parsing etc. Along
the way I've run into a few speed bumps, but I've been able to resolve
everything by reading the copious documentation on the platform or, on
occasion, delving into the source on GitHub to see how a particular
issue was been resolved in the IDE itself.
There is one issue I cannot seem to find an answer for.
*The BACKGROUND*
This relates to error highlighting. As per the error highlighting
tutorial
(https://netbeans.apache.org/tutorial/main/tutorials/nbm-javacc-parser/#_implementing_a_new_feature_error_parsing)
I've create an error highlighting task that extends ParserResultTask and
implemented a factory that extends TaskFactory:
public class EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask extends
ParserResultTask {
@Override
public void run(EclParserResult result, SchedulerEvent event) {
LOG.log(Level.INFO, "Running EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask: {0}", new
Object[]{event.toString()});
try {
[ omitted ...]
} catch (BadLocationException |
org.netbeans.modules.parsing.spi.ParseException ex) {
Exceptions.printStackTrace(ex);
}
}
@Override
public int getPriority() {
return 100;
}
@Override
public Class getSchedulerClass() {
return Scheduler.EDITOR_SENSITIVE_TASK_SCHEDULER;
}
@Override
public void cancel() {
}
}
and
@MimeRegistration(mimeType = "text/x-eclipse", service = TaskFactory.class)
public class EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory extends TaskFactory {
@Override
public Collection create(Snapshot snapshot) {
EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask task = new
EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask();
LOG.log(Level.INFO, "Created EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from {0}",
new Object[]{snapshot.toString()});
return Collections.singleton(task);
}
}
Note I've added a couple of logging events so I can see when the factory
is called and creates the highlighting task, and also see when the task
is run. For the eagle-eyed, yes the language is called the eclipse
language, but it is nothing to do with that other IDE. It's a reservoir
simulation language in the oil and gas industry that dates back to the
1980s...
*The ISSUE*
When I run the custom language model as a module within the IDE
(right-click the module and Run), everything works a charm. Opening a
file generates the following in the log:
INFO
[au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory]:
Created EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from Snapshot 1894046798:
ECLIPSE_Test_Deck.ecl
INFO
[au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory]:
Created EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from Snapshot 1894046798:
ECLIPSE_Test_Deck.ecl
INFO [au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask]:
Running EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask: SchedulerEvent
1007833880(source: CurrentDocumentScheduler)
INFO [au.com.newwavegeo.eclipse.editor.EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask]:
Running EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask: SchedulerEvent 210858918(source:
CurrentDocumentScheduler)
So the task is being created and added to the Scheduler, and is being run.
Now, rather than running as a standalone module, what I really want to
do is to put the module into my platform suite. Adding the module into
the platform suite and then running the application works for everything
except the error highlighting. So far I've done syntax highlighting,
code completion, code reformatting, code folding, match occurrences.
It's all working. But the error highlighting stubbornly does nothing.
Not even having the decency to throw an exception...
When opening my custom language file, the log now shows:
22:09:48 [EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTaskFactory|INFO]: Created
EclSyntaxErrorHighlightingTask from Snapshot 1437838154:
ECLIPSE_Test_Deck.ecl
So it appears that the highlighting task gets created, but it just isn't
being run. Ever.
*Attempts to RESOLVE*
In my custom language module I've added all the dependencies needed,
plus a few more for the platform (I have in mind to submit a pull
request for the documentation file which addresses some of the gaps I
came across). I doubt it's a problem with the code I've written -- it
works as a plugin in the IDE. So my thinking is that there must be some
module that needs to be included in the suite which the ParserResultTask
needs for it to be run. However, a brute force solution of just enabling
every single module in the the 'ide' and 'platform' in my
