RE: [EXT] Re: Prevent NetBeans from trying to use "keyring"

[Thomson, Duncan]

Yes!  That did the trick.  Thank you very much.

From: Laszlo Kishalmi 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:27 AM
To: Thomson, Duncan ; users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Prevent NetBeans from trying to use "keyring"


I'm sorry. I was too superficial.

You might try to add the -J-Dnetbeans.keyring.no.native=true besides the 
-J-Dnetbeans.keyring.no.master=true that might help.
On 5/28/19 9:29 PM, Thomson, Duncan wrote:
I think you misunderstood.  I don’t want NetBeans to try to use gnome keyring.  
I don’t want to try to fix gnome keyring.  I’m not running a gnome desktop 
anyway.

I can’t see any reason why Netbeans needs to use keyring.  In fact, as I 
mentioned, it works if I simply cancel the dialog, which I think proves that 
this is a bug, not a feature.  The problem is that the dialog keeps popping up 
and I have to cancel it a half dozen times for each git operation.

From: Laszlo Kishalmi 
<mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 6:38 PM
To: users@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Prevent NetBeans from trying to use "keyring"


This might help: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=87296332
On 5/28/19 3:04 PM, Thomson, Duncan wrote:
I’m getting a really annoying prompt from Netbeans when I try to use Git with a 
remote repository:

“Enter password to unlock your login keyring”

The problem is I’m not using a login keyring.  For some reason (probably 
because I’m not using Gnome) the keyring is not working, and I don’t really 
need it, so I’d rather not try to debug it.  I don’t need it and don’t want it. 
 I don’t want NetBeans to store any passwords in any form – I’m happy to type 
in whatever is needed when it is needed.

If I cancel the prompt, which comes up about 6 times, I can proceed and connect 
to the git server normally using ssh and my stored ssh key, which I unlock with 
its passcode.  So I know NetBeans does not actually need this login keyring in 
order to proceed – it’s supposed to be a convenience to me – but I DON’T WANT 
IT.  Sigh.

How can I disable this prompt in NetBeans?  I saw some old threads which 
indicated I could set -J-Dnetbeans.keyring.no.master=true in netbeans.conf, but 
this does not seem to have any effect.

Duncan

Prevent NetBeans from trying to use "keyring"

[Thomson, Duncan]

I'm getting a really annoying prompt from Netbeans when I try to use Git with a 
remote repository:

"Enter password to unlock your login keyring"

The problem is I'm not using a login keyring.  For some reason (probably 
because I'm not using Gnome) the keyring is not working, and I don't really 
need it, so I'd rather not try to debug it.  I don't need it and don't want it. 
 I don't want NetBeans to store any passwords in any form - I'm happy to type 
in whatever is needed when it is needed.

If I cancel the prompt, which comes up about 6 times, I can proceed and connect 
to the git server normally using ssh and my stored ssh key, which I unlock with 
its passcode.  So I know NetBeans does not actually need this login keyring in 
order to proceed - it's supposed to be a convenience to me - but I DON'T WANT 
IT.  Sigh.

How can I disable this prompt in NetBeans?  I saw some old threads which 
indicated I could set -J-Dnetbeans.keyring.no.master=true in netbeans.conf, but 
this does not seem to have any effect.

Duncan

RE: [EXT] Re: duplicate project netbeans error, how coud I do it?

[Thomson, Duncan]

I don’t know what it means for a project to have “external source roots”, but 
as others have noted, you have other (better) ways of making a backup of your 
code rather than using the Netbeans function to copy a project.

Let me elaborate slightly.

One way to do this is to use your operating system, outside of netbeans, to 
copy the directory structure.  I would recommend first exiting netbeans, just 
to make sure everything is actually written out to disk.  Then navigate to the 
directory containing the project and copy the entire directory structure.

For example, on a Linux system your project might be 
/home/luistuti/NetBeansProjects/MostExcellentProject

Then you would use something like:
   $ cp  –archive  MostExcellentProject  MostExcellentProject-copy

Or create a tarball, using something like:
  $ tar -cvzf MostExcellentProject.tgz MostExcellentProject

But a much better way is to use a source code configuration control tool.  
Nowadays everyone is using git, and it’s really powerful, so unless you already 
have a favorite that you want to use, I suggest you get on board with git.  
Netbeans has very good integration with git, so you can do it from within 
Netbeans, or you can just go to the command line and run git commands from 
there.

Good luck!

Duncan

From: Luis tuti 
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:36 AM
To: Emilian Bold 
Cc: Geertjan Wielenga ; NetBeans Mailing 

Subject: [EXT] Re: duplicate project netbeans error, how coud I do it?

Yes, that's it.

El lun., 6 may. 2019 a las 10:08, Emilian Bold 
(mailto:emilian.b...@gmail.com>>) escribió:
Maybe this is the copy action from NetBeans?
--emi

lun., 6 mai 2019, 10:48 Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geert...@apache.org>> a scris:
You don't need NetBeans to copy a project, you can just go to your file system 
and copy it there.

Gj

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:30 AM Luis tuti 
mailto:mierdat...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, I'm trying to copy a project to have a backup and mofiy my copy but I get: 
"The project has one more external source roots and cannot be copied"

Someone could help me?

Thanks

RE: [EXT] Re: duplicate project netbeans error, how coud I do it?

[Thomson, Duncan]

I think the ability to copy projects within NetBeans is valuable, and should 
not be removed.  I use it, not for making backups, but for creating a new 
project in which I want to reuse some existing code or other stuff from an 
existing project.

Duncan

From: Emilian Bold 
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 1:27 PM
To: Thomson, Duncan 
Cc: Luis tuti ; Geertjan Wielenga ; 
NetBeans Mailing 
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: duplicate project netbeans error, how coud I do it?

I think Luis figured out how to copy that folder but the question is why can't 
NetBeans figure that out?

Our copy action could be disabled if there is something that we don't support 
anyhow.

Or, we could get rid of the copy action entirely.

The problem is one of NetBeans UX.
--emi

lun., 6 mai 2019, 19:21 Thomson, Duncan 
mailto:dunc...@mitre.org>> a scris:
I don’t know what it means for a project to have “external source roots”, but 
as others have noted, you have other (better) ways of making a backup of your 
code rather than using the Netbeans function to copy a project.

Let me elaborate slightly.

One way to do this is to use your operating system, outside of netbeans, to 
copy the directory structure.  I would recommend first exiting netbeans, just 
to make sure everything is actually written out to disk.  Then navigate to the 
directory containing the project and copy the entire directory structure.

For example, on a Linux system your project might be 
/home/luistuti/NetBeansProjects/MostExcellentProject

Then you would use something like:
   $ cp  –archive  MostExcellentProject  MostExcellentProject-copy

Or create a tarball, using something like:
  $ tar -cvzf MostExcellentProject.tgz MostExcellentProject

But a much better way is to use a source code configuration control tool.  
Nowadays everyone is using git, and it’s really powerful, so unless you already 
have a favorite that you want to use, I suggest you get on board with git.  
Netbeans has very good integration with git, so you can do it from within 
Netbeans, or you can just go to the command line and run git commands from 
there.

Good luck!

Duncan

From: Luis tuti mailto:mierdat...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:36 AM
To: Emilian Bold mailto:emilian.b...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Geertjan Wielenga mailto:geert...@apache.org>>; 
NetBeans Mailing mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: duplicate project netbeans error, how coud I do it?

Yes, that's it.

El lun., 6 may. 2019 a las 10:08, Emilian Bold 
(mailto:emilian.b...@gmail.com>>) escribió:
Maybe this is the copy action from NetBeans?
--emi

lun., 6 mai 2019, 10:48 Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geert...@apache.org>> a scris:
You don't need NetBeans to copy a project, you can just go to your file system 
and copy it there.

Gj

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:30 AM Luis tuti 
mailto:mierdat...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, I'm trying to copy a project to have a backup and mofiy my copy but I get: 
"The project has one more external source roots and cannot be copied"

Someone could help me?

Thanks

RE: [EXT] RE: Json validation

[Thomson, Duncan]

Here is your JSON file pasted straight into Netbeans, with some garbage added 
to show you error checking:

[cid:image002.png@01D4F461.A930F4F0]

From: Thomson, Duncan
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:32 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary ; wadechand...@apache.org
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Json validation

You need to be clear whether you are talking about checking whether some text 
is legal JSON syntax, versus checking whether that text conforms to a JSON 
schema.

The Netbeans editor will already do the former on text in a .json file, but I 
think you are asking for the latter.

It’s important to use the terminology correctly to avoid confusion.  I think 
the term “validation” usually applies to the validation of content against a 
schema, but I’m not sure, so somebody please correct me if I’m using the terms 
incorrectly.

Anyway, if you simply google on JSON schema validation, you will find lots of 
discussion of how to do it.  I think you are asking whether any of these tools 
are built in to Netbeans, the way some the XML schema validation tools were (I 
think).I think the answer is “no”.  My guess is that there may not be 
sufficient interest in JSON schema to merit this.

Also worth noting, XML schema lets you say things like: X must be a string, 
containing only upper case characters or a dollar sign character, except on a 
Tuesday, when it can contain an underscore.  OK, I made up that part about 
Tuesday, but my point is that XML schema allows one to be extremely 
prescriptive.  Not sure the same is possible in JSON schema.  Again, I may be 
wrong, so if so please correct me.  (Validating input against JSON schema is on 
my To Do List for a project I’m working on.)

Duncan

From: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:24 PM
To: wadechand...@apache.org<mailto:wadechand...@apache.org>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: [EXT] RE: Json validation

I sure do have one. Here it is.

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com<mailto:ggree...@visa.com>
M: 650-269-7902

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From: Wade Chandler mailto:wadechand...@apache.org>>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:23 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Json validation

Pretty sure .json files themselves are validated like other file types; editor 
lot has it built in. Do you have a reproducible file you can share?

Wade


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 18:06 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
I know that Netbeans has a feature to validate XML files and I used it 
extensively when XML was main method to define requests and responses in REST 
API.
Nowadays JSON almost completely replaced XML in that role.
Is there a plugin or something to validate JSON or help to check it for errors?
I do have pretty big JSON file which somewhere contain an error, but cannot 
find it easily.
Netbeans marks the opening brace with an error flag, which tells me Token 
recognition at “
Going through it for ½ hour and can’t spot any errors.
Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com<mailto:ggree...@visa.com>
M: 650-269-7902

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RE: [EXT] RE: Json validation

[Thomson, Duncan]

You need to be clear whether you are talking about checking whether some text 
is legal JSON syntax, versus checking whether that text conforms to a JSON 
schema.

The Netbeans editor will already do the former on text in a .json file, but I 
think you are asking for the latter.

It’s important to use the terminology correctly to avoid confusion.  I think 
the term “validation” usually applies to the validation of content against a 
schema, but I’m not sure, so somebody please correct me if I’m using the terms 
incorrectly.

Anyway, if you simply google on JSON schema validation, you will find lots of 
discussion of how to do it.  I think you are asking whether any of these tools 
are built in to Netbeans, the way some the XML schema validation tools were (I 
think).I think the answer is “no”.  My guess is that there may not be 
sufficient interest in JSON schema to merit this.

Also worth noting, XML schema lets you say things like: X must be a string, 
containing only upper case characters or a dollar sign character, except on a 
Tuesday, when it can contain an underscore.  OK, I made up that part about 
Tuesday, but my point is that XML schema allows one to be extremely 
prescriptive.  Not sure the same is possible in JSON schema.  Again, I may be 
wrong, so if so please correct me.  (Validating input against JSON schema is on 
my To Do List for a project I’m working on.)

Duncan

From: Greenberg, Gary 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:24 PM
To: wadechand...@apache.org
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: [EXT] RE: Json validation

I sure do have one. Here it is.

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com
M: 650-269-7902

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From: Wade Chandler mailto:wadechand...@apache.org>>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:23 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Json validation

Pretty sure .json files themselves are validated like other file types; editor 
lot has it built in. Do you have a reproducible file you can share?

Wade


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 18:06 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
I know that Netbeans has a feature to validate XML files and I used it 
extensively when XML was main method to define requests and responses in REST 
API.
Nowadays JSON almost completely replaced XML in that role.
Is there a plugin or something to validate JSON or help to check it for errors?
I do have pretty big JSON file which somewhere contain an error, but cannot 
find it easily.
Netbeans marks the opening brace with an error flag, which tells me Token 
recognition at “
Going through it for ½ hour and can’t spot any errors.
Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com
M: 650-269-7902

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RE: [EXT] RE: NB10 freezes while downloading javadoc

[Thomson, Duncan]

If you install NB on a different machine do you get the same problem?   If so, 
then you have successfully duplicated the issue and you can post details on 
your environment and exactly how you did the install so that someone can try to 
debug.  It’s quite possible it’s a bug, but the first step to getting it fixed 
is to find a way to reproduce it.

That’s just my opinion as a user.


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From: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Date: Sunday, Mar 24, 2019, 6:27 PM
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] RE: NB10 freezes while downloading javadoc

I don’t think it is a proxy issue.
I can easily access Javadoc from the browser without any security issues.
Besides, it is occurring when I refer to my own code. It doesn’t have to go 
outside for that.
BTW, frequency of these freezes increasing exponentially.
A week ago it occurred once. Yesterday – twice, This morning – every 30-40 min. 
Now it occurs every 5 minutes, which makes any coding impossible.

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com
M: 650-269-7902

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From: Leo Donahue 
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 6:15 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary 
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: NB10 freezes while downloading javadoc


On Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 19:49 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
It happens very often (8 times for me today), but not always and not at the 
same place.
It is impossible to provide step-by-step instructions. You just need to edit 
Java code and wait it to occur.
Usually it happened when you hit a dot after class variable and trying to 
select a method from the prompt list.
Is it possible your internet proxy restricts access or some other internal 
security scanning process?

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com
M: 650-269-7902

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From: Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 4:22 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Subject: Re: NB10 freezes while downloading javadoc

You're going to need to write to the whole mailing list and you're going to 
need to provide step by step instructions for reproducing the problem.

Gj

On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 11:58 PM Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
I did file the issue (2304) and attached thread dump I produced with
jcmd 16140 Thread.print

I used to do it with kill -3 on the Mac, but it does not work on the Windows 
box.
Dump does look small to me and it did not terminate the process.
Hopefully, you can derive something from it.

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com
M: 650-269-7902

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From: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:24 PM
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: NB10 freezes while downloading javadoc

I did describe when it is happening. It does not happened every time, though, 
and I do not know when it will happen and what is causing it.
Would you remind me what to do, to get a thread dump when it happen next time? 
I will attach it to the ticket.

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com
M: 650-269-7902

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From: Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:16 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: NB10 freezes while downloading javadoc

If you can provide exact and precise steps for someone to reproduce from 
scratch, someone can look into it, otherwise not.

Gj

On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 10:23 PM Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
That freeze happened to me for the fifth time today. It annoys to no end.
Especially, that I am on the tight schedule for my project and pushing deadline.
I am filing a bug.

Gary Greenberg
Staff Software Engineer
Data Product Development, BI-A
E: ggree...@visa.com
M: 650-269-7902

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From: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 12:21 PM
To: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: NB10 freezes while downloading javadoc

After I selected addAll from the prompt, Netbeans generated this function call 
in the code and freezes.
“Downloading HTTP Javadoc” message is on the bottom bar.
It happened couple more times before and I could only kill IDE through the task 
manager.
Nothing is in the log file, though.
Does anyone facing the same problem? How do you deal with that? Can I avoid it 
by changing some settings?

RE: [EXT] Re: Trying out NB10

[Thomson, Duncan]

Actually newer versions of Windows handle spaces in file and directory names 
with no problem. That’s not really a thing any more.  If the problem is being 
caused by space characters in a directory name, that’s a problem with a .bat 
script or something like that, not a problem with Windows.

From: Scott Palmer 
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:56 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary 
Cc: Geertjan Wielenga ; NetBeans Mailing List 

Subject: [EXT] Re: Trying out NB10

I have my NB under C:\Program Files\ and it doesn’t appear to be causing any 
issues, but if you really need to eliminate the spaces and still put things in 
your cloud drive, just use the subst command to remap the cloud drive path to 
an unused drive letter.

Scott


On Mar 5, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:

Well, I did reinstall NB10 into the directory without spaces and reconfigured 
proxy connection (Although the old one was also tested OK). I was able to 
download plugins now.
However, I still cannot change this huge font on menus. Can anyone tell me what 
I can do about it?
BTW, will it work if my projects are in directory with spaces? If not, I am in 
trouble. Per company policy they have to be on the cloud drive.

From: Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:57 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: NetBeans Mailing List 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

This might also mean something:

INFO [org.netbeans.core.network.proxy.windows.WindowsNetworkProxy]: Windows 
system proxy resolver: auto - PAC (http://pacfile/visa.pac)

Gj

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:55 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:
And probably you have networking problems (maybe something with proxies on your 
new machine), because when I put this into my browser, a license is downloaded, 
while in your log file this throws network errors:

http://plugins.netbeans.org/nbpluginportal/files/nbms/licenses/B2B74E56.license

Gj

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:53 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:
Probably the problems are related to having NetBeans unzipped in this folder:

"C:\Users\ggreenbe\OneDrive - Visa Inc\Software\netbeans"

Folders with spaces never work well on Windows.

Gj

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:47 PM Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Because there are no installer for NB10, I couldn’t place it anywhere but under 
my home directory.
So, I created C;\Users\...\Software folder and unpacked archive there.
I certainly do have all privileges in my home directory.
Just few minutes ago NB froze again and I had to kill it through task manager 
and restart.
New log file doesn’t show any errors. Previous one does show multiple network 
timeouts from unsuccessful attempts to download plugins.
BTW, can you please post URL for the current plugin portal? I will try to 
download some outside of IDE.
From: Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:04 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>; NetBeans 
Mailing List mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

You keep removing the mailing list from your responses, please don’t, there’s 
many others who could be helping, but you keep excluding them.

Sounds to me like there’s some problem with permissions or the general setup of 
your new machine, though it’s impossible to know.

Maybe attach a log file — just keep the mailing list address in your responses, 
please.

Gj


On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 23:00, Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Sorry,
This one I am trying on Windows 10. Dell Precision 5520, 8 cores, 32GB RAM
JDK 1.8-202
Regarding refreshing userdir – I started from the brand new machine. It had 
nothing in it.
I started installing Chrome,  JDK, Postman and Acrobat. Netbeans was the fifth 
piece of software installed.
Userdir was supposed to be prestine.

From: Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:52 AM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>; NetBeans 
Mailing List mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

You claim to be “far from the noob”, yet you had to be told to refresh the 
userdir and you haven’t provided a description of your environment, e.g., the 
JDK you’re using. What gives?

Gj


On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:38, Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
I did delete my userdir and restarted NB.
Authentication request is now gone, but I still can’t change menu fonts.
I tried to set it to size 12, 10 and even 5. No affect whatsoever.
See attached screenshot.

From: Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:32 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: NetBeans Mailing List 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

Can you start with a fresh 

RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

[Thomson, Duncan]

Sorry that was meant to say: IMHO it’s a good thing to have a policy to ensure 
only trusted software is installed.  But deciding what to trust is not so easy.


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From: Thomson, Duncan mailto:dunc...@mitre.org>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 9:39 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>, Leo Donahue 
mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

IMHO it’s a good thing to h


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From: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM
To: Leo Donahue mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.

From: Leo Donahue 
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" 
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" 
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech 
governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to 
bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>" 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded 
application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without 
installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga 
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>" 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t 
unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the 
works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into 
Netbeans distribution?

RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

[Thomson, Duncan]

I would be very interested to hear why they insist on a windows installer.   
What security advantages do they cite


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From: Leo Donahue mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:34 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

I feel your pain, but you currently have no options that won't result in you 
violating your company policies.

Unless you want to research how to make an installer for Windows and contribute 
that to Netbeans.

Does this daemon block running Java code that you write?

What if you write a command line tool that you launch with java -jar ? Does 
that get blocked?

Because that is basically how you would start NetBeans from a zip download.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 20:03 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.

From: Leo Donahue mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech 
governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to 
bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded 
application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without 
installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga 
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t 
unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the 
works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into 
Netbeans distribution?

RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

[Thomson, Duncan]

IMHO it’s a good thing to h


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From: Greenberg, Gary mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM
To: Leo Donahue mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.

From: Leo Donahue 
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" 
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" 
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech 
governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to 
bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue mailto:donahu...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded 
application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without 
installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga 
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" mailto:ggree...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" 
mailto:users@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t 
unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the 
works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary 
mailto:ggree...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into 
Netbeans distribution?

[javadoc][maven]Code completion tools not finding javadocs for maven dependencies in Netbeans 8.2

[Thomson, Duncan]

I have created a Netbeans maven project, and added a dependency to an external 
library.  This works very well, the external code is downloaded automagically.  
Yippee!

I have also downloaded the sources of the external project, and they include 
javadocs. That also works really well; if I go to the "Dependencies" section of 
my Netbeans project, and right click on one of the external libraries I depend 
on, and select "View JavaDoc", the IDE opens a browser on the Javadocs.  Very 
nice.

The only fly in the ointment is that the IDE code completion can't seem to find 
the javadocs.  If I'm in the source code editor, and invoke the source code 
completion feature, the IDE immediately pops up a code completion window and 
offers me all the methods of the associated object.  But when I select one of 
them, I see a message that indicates the Javadoc can't be found.  Hmmm  You 
silly IDE, you must know how to find the Javadoc, because you just showed it to 
me!  (The javadocs are actually buried down in the maven repository, under 
~/.m2)

Any suggestions on how to make this work smoothly?

(p.s. All the FAQs and help I've been able to find on this talks about adding 
javadocs for things like the JDK.  The tips all refer to adding javadocs for a 
library or a java platform.  Not sure either of these apply to my situation.  I 
don't see any mention of how to point the IDE at javadocs associated with a 
maven dependency.)

Any help much appreciated!

Thanks,

Duncan