Re: Is v19 slower than 18? - Some statistics

2023-09-21 Thread David Gradwell
I have timed “Clean and Build” on 8 of my 30+ projects using version 18.  I 
then installed version 19 and did “Clean and Build” on the same 8 projects.  I 
recorded the performance in the following table

Clean and Build time in seconds
Module #
number of source files
version 18
version 19
1
49
1.71
1.638
2
134
1.359
1.242
3
80
1.431
1.12
4
19
1.386
1.192
5
36
1.224
1.071
6
55
1.163
1.034
7
158
1.768
1.709
8
1
0
0
Totals
532
10.041
9.006

General comments
Application opening time seems (subjectively) faster.
version 19 1st run of module 1 downloaded some Maven stuff.  The figure given 
is the 2nd run.
No changes to the machine or its software or the other applications running 
between tests.
Mac Mini M1 chip, 16GB memory,  running MacOS Ventura 13.5.2 (the latest)

So it would seem to me that version 19 is about 10% faster when building my 
collection of Java code.  As you can see from the number of files, some 
projects are trivial (module 8) and some are very complex.

I hope that this helps move the discussion forward.

Regards

David Gradwell


From: Geertjan Wielenga 
Date: Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 21:30
To: Eric J. Schwarzenbach 
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org 
Subject: Re: Is v19 slower than 18?
Without any steps to reproduce the problem or any evidence in any shape or 
form, nothing at all can be done with this.

Gj

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 at 22:23, Eric J. Schwarzenbach 
mailto:eric.schwarzenb...@wrycan.com>> wrote:

Can we get any more confirmations and / or denials that Netbeans 19 is a step 
backwards speed-wise? These two reports of that make me reluctant to upgrade, 
but it is surprising that it is only 2 if this is a general problem. However 
the thread subject is kind of specific and might be ignored by many users, so...


On 9/11/23 10:38, Emiliano Armellin wrote:
Hello,

I can confirm that this version is very slow, significantly slower than 18, 
even on Mac M2 Pro (using the Community Installer version with JDK 20).

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Il 11 set 2023, 15:46 +0200, Ken Standard <mailto:ad...@qso.com> 
ha scritto:


This version is extremely slow for most operations...over a minute for some. 
Please find my environment below. Version 18 was looking very good until this 
came out.



Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE 19

Java: 11.0.19; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.19+7

Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11.0.19+7

System: Linux version 5.10.0-25-amd64 running on amd64; UTF-8; en_US (nb)

User directory: /home/ken/.netbeans/19

Cache directory: /home/ken/.cache/netbeans/19

System: Kernel: 5.10.0-25-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8
tk: GTK 3.24.24 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: LMDE 5 Elsie base: Debian 11.2 
bullseye
Machine: Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 3050 v: N/A serial: 
 Chassis:
type: 3 serial: 
Mobo: Dell model: 08NPPY v: A00 serial:  UEFI: Dell v: 1.25.0 date: 
04/05/2023
CPU: Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6500 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: 
Skylake-S rev: 3
L2 cache: 6 MiB

Hope to see an effective update to correct this problem soon.

Thanks

Ken Standard ad...@qso.com<mailto:ad...@qso.com>


Re: Is v19 slower than 18?

2023-09-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Without any steps to reproduce the problem or any evidence in any shape or
form, nothing at all can be done with this.

Gj

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 at 22:23, Eric J. Schwarzenbach <
eric.schwarzenb...@wrycan.com> wrote:

> Can we get any more confirmations and / or denials that Netbeans 19 is a
> step backwards speed-wise? These two reports of that make me reluctant to
> upgrade, but it is surprising that it is only 2 if this is a general
> problem. However the thread subject is kind of specific and might be
> ignored by many users, so...
>
>
> On 9/11/23 10:38, Emiliano Armellin wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I can confirm that this version is very slow, significantly slower than
> 18, even on Mac M2 Pro (using the Community Installer version with JDK 20).
>
> *Emiliano Armellin*
> *technical leader*
>
> 📧 earmel...@atklab.com
> 📞 342 545 83 83 <+393425458383>
>
> 
>
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> Il 11 set 2023, 15:46 +0200, Ken Standard  
> ha scritto:
>
> This version is extremely slow for most operations...over a minute for
> some. Please find my environment below. Version 18 was looking very good
> until this came out.
>
>
> *Product Version:* Apache NetBeans IDE 19
>
> *Java:* 11.0.19; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.19+7
>
> *Runtime:* OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11.0.19+7
>
> *System:* Linux version 5.10.0-25-amd64 running on amd64; UTF-8; en_US
> (nb)
>
> *User directory:* /home/ken/.netbeans/19
>
> *Cache directory:* /home/ken/.cache/netbeans/19
>
> System: Kernel: 5.10.0-25-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
> Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8
> tk: GTK 3.24.24 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: LMDE 5 Elsie base: Debian
> 11.2 bullseye
> Machine: Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 3050 v: N/A serial:
>  Chassis:
> type: 3 serial: 
> Mobo: Dell model: 08NPPY v: A00 serial:  UEFI: Dell v: 1.25.0
> date: 04/05/2023
> CPU: Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6500 bits: 64 type: MCP arch:
> Skylake-S rev: 3
> L2 cache: 6 MiB
>
> Hope to see an effective update to correct this problem soon.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken Standard ad...@qso.com
>
>


Is v19 slower than 18?

2023-09-20 Thread Eric J. Schwarzenbach
Can we get any more confirmations and / or denials that Netbeans 19 is a 
step backwards speed-wise? These two reports of that make me reluctant 
to upgrade, but it is surprising that it is only 2 if this is a general 
problem. However the thread subject is kind of specific and might be 
ignored by many users, so...



On 9/11/23 10:38, Emiliano Armellin wrote:

Hello,

I can confirm that this version is very slow, significantly slower 
than 18, even on Mac M2 Pro (using the Community Installer version 
with JDK 20).


*Emiliano Armellin*
*technical leader*

📧earmel...@atklab.com
📞 342 545 83 83 



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Il 11 set 2023, 15:46 +0200, Ken Standard  ha scritto:


This version is extremely slow for most operations...over a minute 
for some. Please find my environment below. Version 18 was looking 
very good until this came out.



*Product Version:* Apache NetBeans IDE 19

*Java:* 11.0.19; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.19+7

*Runtime:* OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11.0.19+7

*System:* Linux version 5.10.0-25-amd64 running on amd64; UTF-8; 
en_US (nb)


*User directory:* /home/ken/.netbeans/19

*Cache directory:* /home/ken/.cache/netbeans/19

System: Kernel: 5.10.0-25-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 
10.2.1 Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8
tk: GTK 3.24.24 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: LMDE 5 Elsie base: 
Debian 11.2 bullseye
Machine: Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 3050 v: N/A 
serial:  Chassis:

type: 3 serial: 
Mobo: Dell model: 08NPPY v: A00 serial:  UEFI: Dell v: 1.25.0 
date: 04/05/2023
CPU: Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6500 bits: 64 type: MCP 
arch: Skylake-S rev: 3

L2 cache: 6 MiB

Hope to see an effective update to correct this problem soon.

Thanks

Ken Standard ad...@qso.com