Fw: [EXTERNAL] Re: font for accented characters

2023-01-10 Thread Christopher C. Lanz
see below - I neglected to reply to the list. . . .


Chris Lanz

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From: Christopher C. Lanz 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:55 PM
To: Neil C Smith 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: font for accented characters

Hello,

Thanks again.

Adding either of your suggestions (eg. -J-Dsun.stdout.encoding=utf-8, or on a 
recent
JDK -J-Dstdout.encoding=utf-8) to .conf both had no obvious, immediate effect, 
but having added those items, and then running with the line "System.setOut(new 
PrintStream(System.out, true, "UTF8"));" and finally the output of 
System.out.print() of an accented character is correct!

Now I have to test other aspects of using these characters, but at least this 
one part of the problem is possibly solved. We'll see if these changes have 
some undesirable side-effects as I work for the next few days.

Thanks so much!


Chris Lanz, Assoc. Professor Emeritus

Department of Computer Science

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From: Neil C Smith 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:06 PM
To: Christopher C. Lanz 
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org ; 
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: font for accented characters

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 16:53, Christopher C. Lanz
 wrote:
> I have added -J-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8  to netbeans.conf, and then, of course, 
> I restarted Netbeans
>
> System.out.println("ī") produces a question mark as the output. Same for ā

Then it's possibly not (just) file encoding you want to set, but also
system out encoding (eg. -J-Dsun.stdout.encoding=utf-8, or on a recent
JDK -J-Dstdout.encoding=utf-8)

See also https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4771 and related.

You can always set command line arguments like this in the Windows
shortcut as well as the netbeans.conf file.  I find that better as you
can set up multiple shortcuts.

You can also consider setting the environment variable mentioned in
that issue and linked - JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS

Or it's the font ..

This is all a little confusing and annoying if you ask me, but then
that's Windows for you! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: font for accented characters

2023-01-10 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 16:53, Christopher C. Lanz
 wrote:
> I have added -J-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8  to netbeans.conf, and then, of course, 
> I restarted Netbeans
>
> System.out.println("ī") produces a question mark as the output. Same for ā

Then it's possibly not (just) file encoding you want to set, but also
system out encoding (eg. -J-Dsun.stdout.encoding=utf-8, or on a recent
JDK -J-Dstdout.encoding=utf-8)

See also https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4771 and related.

You can always set command line arguments like this in the Windows
shortcut as well as the netbeans.conf file.  I find that better as you
can set up multiple shortcuts.

You can also consider setting the environment variable mentioned in
that issue and linked - JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS

Or it's the font ..

This is all a little confusing and annoying if you ask me, but then
that's Windows for you! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: font for accented characters

2023-01-10 Thread Christopher C. Lanz
Hello,

Thanks for responding.

I believe the file encoding is UTF-8: the dialog

Project Properties / sources

has a box labeled "encoding", and it is set to UTF-8.

I have added -J-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8  to netbeans.conf, and then, of course, I 
restarted Netbeans

System.out.println("ī") produces a question mark as the output. Same for ā

A StackOverflow source said that the Program Properties/General page includes 
an "encoding" entry. There is no such entry in my installation (Netbeans 16 on 
WIndows 10). The only mention of "encoding" in Project Properties is under 
"sources". I can find no mention of it in Tools/options, either in "editor", 
"fonts & colors", or anywhere else.


Chris Lanz

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Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 2:02 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: font for accented characters

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Hi Chris,

A quick question:

1. Is your file encoding UTF-8?

At least for NetBeans 15, the configuration file is located in wherever
you installed NetBeans\etc. It's called netbeans.conf.

In my netbeans.conf, I've added  -J-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 to
netbeans_default_options.

I haven't tried this with NetBeans 16 yet (upgrade today most likely),
but several people at $work have used prior versions of NetBeans and
have added characters with diacritics.

Using the Character Map and copying the result into a text file worked
on NetBeans 15. An acute accent e showed up in a text file, was saved,
opened, and the diacritic was displayed properly.

The character showed up properly in other UTF-8 aware editors.

. . . just my two cents
/mde/

On 1/9/2023 10:32 AM, Christopher C. Lanz wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to use Latin vowels with macrons in Netbeans 16 in Windows 10. My 
> searches in such places as StackOverflow have yielded advice, but I have yet 
> to find the right thing.
>
> One possibility mentioned is just to switch to a font that supports accented 
> characters, such as 'e' with accent grave - does anyone know which fonts I 
> should try?
>
> Another set of advice suggests changing the netbeans.conf file, but it has 
> moved since the advice I found was written. How do I get to it in Windows? I 
> am also unable to find the default_options file.  ??
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Chris Lanz
>
> 340 Dunn Hall, SUNY Potsdam
>
> lan...@potsdam.edu
>
> 315 268 1547
>
>
>
>


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Re: font for accented characters

2023-01-09 Thread Mark Eggers

Hi Chris,

A quick question:

1. Is your file encoding UTF-8?

At least for NetBeans 15, the configuration file is located in wherever 
you installed NetBeans\etc. It's called netbeans.conf.


In my netbeans.conf, I've added  -J-Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 to 
netbeans_default_options.


I haven't tried this with NetBeans 16 yet (upgrade today most likely), 
but several people at $work have used prior versions of NetBeans and 
have added characters with diacritics.


Using the Character Map and copying the result into a text file worked 
on NetBeans 15. An acute accent e showed up in a text file, was saved, 
opened, and the diacritic was displayed properly.


The character showed up properly in other UTF-8 aware editors.

. . . just my two cents
/mde/

On 1/9/2023 10:32 AM, Christopher C. Lanz wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to use Latin vowels with macrons in Netbeans 16 in Windows 10. My 
searches in such places as StackOverflow have yielded advice, but I have yet to 
find the right thing.

One possibility mentioned is just to switch to a font that supports accented 
characters, such as 'e' with accent grave - does anyone know which fonts I 
should try?

Another set of advice suggests changing the netbeans.conf file, but it has 
moved since the advice I found was written. How do I get to it in Windows? I am 
also unable to find the default_options file.  ??

Thanks


Chris Lanz

340 Dunn Hall, SUNY Potsdam

lan...@potsdam.edu

315 268 1547







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font for accented characters

2023-01-09 Thread Christopher C. Lanz
Hello,

I am trying to use Latin vowels with macrons in Netbeans 16 in Windows 10. My 
searches in such places as StackOverflow have yielded advice, but I have yet to 
find the right thing.

One possibility mentioned is just to switch to a font that supports accented 
characters, such as 'e' with accent grave - does anyone know which fonts I 
should try?

Another set of advice suggests changing the netbeans.conf file, but it has 
moved since the advice I found was written. How do I get to it in Windows? I am 
also unable to find the default_options file.  ??

Thanks


Chris Lanz

340 Dunn Hall, SUNY Potsdam

lan...@potsdam.edu

315 268 1547