Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread James Knott
On 05/09/2015 03:56 PM, hbla...@cox.net wrote:
 For example, the Brooklyn Bridge has been sold many times Nothing wrong with 
 that. Right?

There are some who sell a CD with OO for a nominal amount.  They provide
a service for those who can't download it.  On the other hand, there a
some who charge for a download, load it with crapware or claim they
include support and then point the purchaser here for their paid support.


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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread M Henri Day
2015-05-09 21:56 GMT+02:00 hbla...@cox.net:

 For example, the Brooklyn Bridge has been sold many times Nothing wrong
 with that. Right?

  Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:

 =
 daz scull:

  trying to cash in on your free software

 There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.


​As we have frequently seen on these threads, signature «Urmas»​
​ seems to embrace a morality all her/his own​


​Henri​


Fwd: Re: Hilferuf

2015-05-09 Thread Detlef Nannen
Hallo Monika,

bereits auf Deine erste Anfrage hattest Du 3 Antworten erhalten. Vielleicht
habe dieae Dich nicht erreicht. Ich habe hier diebaus meiner Sicht
hilfreichste Antwort, sie ist von Günter Feierabend, noch mal angehängt.

-- 
Ich wünsche viel Erfolg.
Detlef Nannen
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Von: Günter Feierabend feierab...@telia.com
Datum: 20.04.2015 13:06
Betreff: Re: Hilferuf
An: users-de@openoffice.apache.org
Cc:

Hallo Monika,

Am 19.04.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Monika Hagen moa.ha...@gmx.de:

 Hallo, ich hoffe Sie können mir helfen. Ich möchte gerne in Open Office
4, wenn ich Vorlagen und Dokumenten, Eigene Datei öffne, von den dort
befindliche Titeln einige löschen. Was muss ich bitte machen?

Du musst in dem entsprechenden Ordner mit Hilfe Deines Betriebssystems
diese Dateien löschen.
Dies hat also nichts mit OpenOffice zu tun.

Gruß
Günter


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Fehler auf der Foren und Newsgroups Webseite

2015-05-09 Thread Siegfried Floegel
Ich finde Release Notes immer sehr gut. Doch mich interessiert mehr wo ich 
bitte den Download-Link für das Open Office 4.1.1. finde?

Gruß Siegfried Floegel

Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread Urmas

daz scull:


trying to cash in on your free software


There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.




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Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread daz scull
Hi guys, 1sr of all, great product, been using it for years ;-) 

Now onto my point, i came across some muppet on ebay trying to cash in on your 
free software, here is the item number: 261832142262

Thought id gibe you heads up anyway as it seems rhey are trying to cash in on 
your hard work! :-( 

Cheers

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

2015-05-09 Thread Urmas

Rebecca Eaton:


Your word processor seems to have been redesigned for a smart phone.


OO.o UI is basically the same it was in 1994.


 I click on all kinds of boxes that say they will stop it, but they don't.


Uncheck the box and it will stop.


Now it opens relative to the cursor.


No, it doesn't.

When I click on something, the document keeps jumping around to put that 
line more in the middle of the page.


No, it doesn't.

Everything was tested today with 4.1.1.



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Re: Hilferuf

2015-05-09 Thread Monika Hagen
Hallo, leider sind schon über 3 Wochen vergangen, ich habe keine Antwort von 
Ihnen erhalten. Wenn sie mein Problem nicht verstehen, fragen Sie mich bitte, 
ich bin natürlich gerne bereit, Ihnen meine Situation zu schildern, aber ich 
möchte gerne etwas Ordnung in meinem Laptop bekommen. Darum ist es nötig, daß 
ich weiß, wie ich die Löschungen vornehmen kann.
Also nochmals meine Bitte um Ihre Hilfe.
Gruß Monika Hagen

From: Monika Hagen 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:32 AM
To: users-de@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Hilferuf

Hallo, ich hoffe Sie können mir helfen. Ich möchte gerne in Open Office 4, wenn 
ich “Vorlagen und Dokumenten”, Eigene Datei öffne, von den dort befindliche 
Titeln einige löschen. Was muss ich bitte machen? Ich hoffe, Sie haben mein 
Problem verstanden und können mir helfen, schon jetzt 
besten Dank
Monika Hagen

Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

2015-05-09 Thread Martin Groenescheij



On 09-May-15 06:43, Rebecca Eaton wrote:

Hi there!  I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at least 15 
years (unless you're not that old...  as long as I can remember, anyway).  I'm 
sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down quite a bit in the past 
few years, and I suspect that it's because you're trying to copy Microsoft.


What exactly has gone down? Please give facts not emotions.


  Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for them.  Why not try to 
make things better than Microsoft?


It's already better (in some ways) than Microsoft Office.


If you just took these programs from ten years ago, and spruced them up a bit, 
that would pretty much do the trick.


What exactly need to be spruced up? Please give facts? not emotions.



Some examples:
Your word processor seems to have been redesigned for a smart phone.


OpenOffice is not available for smart phones, but rather for smart people.


Smart phones are for people who don't need to do huge amounts of research, 
cutting and pasting, formatting, etc.  You need to get some people to design 
things like word processors and spreadsheets who actually use them on a pretty 
much daily basis, because people who do all their typing on a phone can't 
imagine the things that we used to be able to do.


Again OpenOffice is not available for smart phones, so your statement 
doesn't make sense.



The default should be that the things that I type stay exactly the way I typed 
them.


Do you mean when you type ABC it appears as XYZ? If not explain in more 
detail what is not working.



In the early 2000's, it was annoying that it took one button to change this to 
the default.  Now it's actually impossible.


What exactly is impossible?


I' often have to actually change what I want to write in the document, because 
I can't stop the damn program from changing it.  I click on all kinds of boxes 
that say they will stop it, but they don't.


Could you be more precise on which boxes you click and what you expect 
the program to do.



If you want to make the default be like a smartphone, could I please have one, easy to 
find button to click on, that says leave my goram typing the way I smegging well 
typed it.  Please, I'm begging.


Sorry to say, but you're not begging you only complaining.


I know A LOT of people agree with me about this, and I don't know why nobody's 
listening.


We all are listening here, but maybe the people you know haven't asked 
for help.



When I used to right-click on something, the box would open in a location 
appropriate to the box.  Now it opens relative to the cursor.


What do you mean with clicking on something? Please give facts.


This means that if what I've clicked on isn't at the top of the page, I can't 
paste, because the bottom of the box is below this stupid-ass see-through 
monstrosity of a taskbar at the bottom of the screen (where I've lost actual 
windows before, because I accidentally dragged them to the bottom of the 
screen, and it let me drag it down, but then wouldn't let me click on the 
document once it was under the taskbar).  So have to scroll down, and click 
again.


So you accidentally drag a window down below the task bar and blame 
OpenOffice, that's not fair.



There are quite a few operations that I used to do with one or two clicks, that 
now take me four or five.


What operations are you talking about? Examples please.

  I would really like to have back the ability to right-click in the document and get the 
option for paste special.  I do this approximately a million times a day, and 
I curse you every time.  Not you personally, more programmers in general.


Guess what programmers think about users.


When I click on something, the document keeps jumping around to put that line 
more in the middle of the page.  I put that line right where I wanted it, so I 
can see all the lines I'm working on, and I don't want it to move.


Than you need to tell the program not to move lines. Maybe you need to 
learn how to use Styles

The cursor doesn't disappear anymore when I'm typing, even though I've checked 
all the appropriate boxes.  This is so annoying.  I start typing, and then I 
can't see what I'm working on.


I didn't know there was a box that allow the cursor to disappear. Could 
you explain where I can find that box?



Seriously, this Windows 8 is so incredibly bad, it feels like the designers are 
just pooping on consumers.


Could you inform us which smart phone has Windows 8 as operating system?


That's not the word I'm really thinking...  It's obscene that they still 
control the market, when their product gets worse and worse every year.  There 
are so many functions that it doesn't do at all, and these m-f-ing pop-up 
things mean that I have to spend a lot of time carefully positioning the mouse 
so they won't all pop up, and make my freaking windows disappear, or make it 
impossible to click on what I need to click on.  Now is the 

Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

2015-05-09 Thread Developer

This conversation should be marked as 'Abuse'.
Please, admin, terminate this argument.

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Groenescheij

Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 7:20 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: mousepol...@ymail.com
Subject: Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!



On 09-May-15 06:43, Rebecca Eaton wrote:
Hi there!  I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at 
least 15 years (unless you're not that old...  as long as I can remember, 
anyway).  I'm sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down quite 
a bit in the past few years, and I suspect that it's because you're trying 
to copy Microsoft.


What exactly has gone down? Please give facts not emotions.

  Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for them.  Why not 
try to make things better than Microsoft?


It's already better (in some ways) than Microsoft Office.

If you just took these programs from ten years ago, and spruced them up a 
bit, that would pretty much do the trick.


What exactly need to be spruced up? Please give facts? not emotions.



Some examples:
Your word processor seems to have been redesigned for a smart phone.


OpenOffice is not available for smart phones, but rather for smart people.

Smart phones are for people who don't need to do huge amounts of research, 
cutting and pasting, formatting, etc.  You need to get some people to 
design things like word processors and spreadsheets who actually use them 
on a pretty much daily basis, because people who do all their typing on a 
phone can't imagine the things that we used to be able to do.


Again OpenOffice is not available for smart phones, so your statement
doesn't make sense.

The default should be that the things that I type stay exactly the way I 
typed them.


Do you mean when you type ABC it appears as XYZ? If not explain in more
detail what is not working.

In the early 2000's, it was annoying that it took one button to change 
this to the default.  Now it's actually impossible.


What exactly is impossible?

I' often have to actually change what I want to write in the document, 
because I can't stop the damn program from changing it.  I click on all 
kinds of boxes that say they will stop it, but they don't.


Could you be more precise on which boxes you click and what you expect
the program to do.

If you want to make the default be like a smartphone, could I please have 
one, easy to find button to click on, that says leave my goram typing the 
way I smegging well typed it.  Please, I'm begging.


Sorry to say, but you're not begging you only complaining.

I know A LOT of people agree with me about this, and I don't know why 
nobody's listening.


We all are listening here, but maybe the people you know haven't asked
for help.

When I used to right-click on something, the box would open in a location 
appropriate to the box.  Now it opens relative to the cursor.


What do you mean with clicking on something? Please give facts.

This means that if what I've clicked on isn't at the top of the page, I 
can't paste, because the bottom of the box is below this stupid-ass 
see-through monstrosity of a taskbar at the bottom of the screen (where 
I've lost actual windows before, because I accidentally dragged them to 
the bottom of the screen, and it let me drag it down, but then wouldn't 
let me click on the document once it was under the taskbar).  So have to 
scroll down, and click again.


So you accidentally drag a window down below the task bar and blame
OpenOffice, that's not fair.

There are quite a few operations that I used to do with one or two clicks, 
that now take me four or five.


What operations are you talking about? Examples please.
  I would really like to have back the ability to right-click in the 
document and get the option for paste special.  I do this approximately 
a million times a day, and I curse you every time.  Not you personally, 
more programmers in general.


Guess what programmers think about users.

When I click on something, the document keeps jumping around to put that 
line more in the middle of the page.  I put that line right where I wanted 
it, so I can see all the lines I'm working on, and I don't want it to 
move.


Than you need to tell the program not to move lines. Maybe you need to
learn how to use Styles
The cursor doesn't disappear anymore when I'm typing, even though I've 
checked all the appropriate boxes.  This is so annoying.  I start typing, 
and then I can't see what I'm working on.


I didn't know there was a box that allow the cursor to disappear. Could
you explain where I can find that box?

Seriously, this Windows 8 is so incredibly bad, it feels like the 
designers are just pooping on consumers.


Could you inform us which smart phone has Windows 8 as operating system?

That's not the word I'm really thinking...  It's obscene that they still 
control the market, when their product gets worse and worse every year. 
There are so many 

Re: Fehler auf der Foren und Newsgroups Webseite

2015-05-09 Thread Günter Feierabend
Hallo Siegfried,

Am 09.05.2015 um 10:02 schrieb Siegfried Floegel sfloe...@t-online.de:

 Ich finde Release Notes immer sehr gut. Doch mich interessiert mehr wo ich 
 bitte den Download-Link für das Open Office 4.1.1. finde?

Hier:

http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/index.html

Gruß
Günter


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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread hblange
For example, the Brooklyn Bridge has been sold many times Nothing wrong with 
that. Right?

 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
daz scull:

 trying to cash in on your free software

There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.




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