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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Groenescheij
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 7:20 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: mousepol...@ymail.com
Subject: Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!
On 09-May-15 06:43, Rebecca Eaton wrote:
Hi there! I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at
least 15 years (unless you're not that old... as long as I can remember,
anyway). I'm sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down quite
a bit in the past few years, and I suspect that it's because you're trying
to copy Microsoft.
What exactly has gone down? Please give facts not emotions.
Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for them. Why not
try to make things better than Microsoft?
It's already better (in some ways) than Microsoft Office.
If you just took these programs from ten years ago, and spruced them up a
bit, that would pretty much do the trick.
What exactly need to be spruced up? Please give facts? not emotions.
Some examples:
Your word processor seems to have been redesigned for a smart phone.
OpenOffice is not available for smart phones, but rather for smart people.
Smart phones are for people who don't need to do huge amounts of research,
cutting and pasting, formatting, etc. You need to get some people to
design things like word processors and spreadsheets who actually use them
on a pretty much daily basis, because people who do all their typing on a
phone can't imagine the things that we used to be able to do.
Again OpenOffice is not available for smart phones, so your statement
doesn't make sense.
The default should be that the things that I type stay exactly the way I
typed them.
Do you mean when you type ABC it appears as XYZ? If not explain in more
detail what is not working.
In the early 2000's, it was annoying that it took one button to change
this to the default. Now it's actually impossible.
What exactly is impossible?
I' often have to actually change what I want to write in the document,
because I can't stop the damn program from changing it. I click on all
kinds of boxes that say they will stop it, but they don't.
Could you be more precise on which boxes you click and what you expect
the program to do.
If you want to make the default be like a smartphone, could I please have
one, easy to find button to click on, that says "leave my goram typing the
way I smegging well typed it." Please, I'm begging.
Sorry to say, but you're not begging you only complaining.
I know A LOT of people agree with me about this, and I don't know why
nobody's listening.
We all are listening here, but maybe the people you know haven't asked
for help.
When I used to right-click on something, the box would open in a location
appropriate to the box. Now it opens relative to the cursor.
What do you mean with clicking on something? Please give facts.
This means that if what I've clicked on isn't at the top of the page, I
can't paste, because the bottom of the box is below this stupid-ass
see-through monstrosity of a taskbar at the bottom of the screen (where
I've lost actual windows before, because I accidentally dragged them to
the bottom of the screen, and it let me drag it down, but then wouldn't
let me click on the document once it was under the taskbar). So have to
scroll down, and click again.
So you accidentally drag a window down below the task bar and blame
OpenOffice, that's not fair.
There are quite a few operations that I used to do with one or two clicks,
that now take me four or five.
What operations are you talking about? Examples please.
I would really like to have back the ability to right-click in the
document and get the option for "paste special." I do this approximately
a million times a day, and I curse you every time. Not you personally,
more programmers in general.
Guess what programmers think about users.
When I click on something, the document keeps jumping around to put that
line more in the middle of the page. I put that line right where I wanted
it, so I can see all the lines I'm working on, and I don't want it to
move.
Than you need to tell the program not to move lines. Maybe you need to
learn how to use Styles
The cursor doesn't disappear anymore when I'm typing, even though I've
checked all the appropriate boxes. This is so annoying. I start typing,
and then I can't see what I'm working on.
I didn't know there was a box that allow the cursor to disappear. Could
you explain where I can find that box?
Seriously, this Windows 8 is so incredibly bad, it feels like the
designers are just pooping on consumers.
Could you inform us which smart phone has Windows 8 as operating system?
That's not the word I'm really thinking... It's obscene that they still
control the market, when their product gets worse and worse every year.
There are so many functions that it doesn't do at all, and these m-f-ing
pop-up things mean that I have to spend a lot of time carefully
positioning the mouse so they won't all pop up, and make my freaking
windows disappear, or make it impossible to click on what I need to click
on. Now is the perfect time to take them down. I wish now that I'd kept
up with my programming, because I think that I could easily write
something better than Windows.
If you ready with rewriting Windows let us know, but by the way did you
know that OpenOffice is also available on other Operating Systems.
I have to think that this is related to the fact that IT companies used to
pay $70 an hour for geniuses, and now they're paying $20 an hour for
recent graduates who don't really use computers to do anything except
gaming and chatting. No offense meant if you're
one of these graduates, but you really want some people involved who
spend a lot of time using the programs they design, for smarty-pants
stuff.
I think you people need to get together, and buy a few geniuses, and write
something that fricking well works for people who aren't teenagers. I
know it's hard, when education is no longer a priority, and some
government officials are actively fighting against it. But you could even
just take the best features from Windows 3.1 through Windows 98, and add
the stuff that we need today, and it would be much, much better, without
really needing to innovate. I know this isn't in Apache's mandate, but
maybe you know someone who could make this happen. I'm so sick of this
suckage. I'm begging you, please stop going downhill right behind
Microsoft. They've given up on hiring good people, or listening to them,
I dunno. It's too depressing, for someone who grew up on a Commodore 64,
and saw computers get better and better every year for such a long time.
I grew up in the same time and agree with you that computers got
better over time, so if the computers got better why
are you so upset?
Sorry I'm so excited about this, but I hope you understand. I spend A LOT
of time with these things. Thanks for listening. I know that if you can
make this happen, it will help you get the edge over Microsoft. Good
luck.
We are not in war with Microsoft.
Rebecca
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