Re: Apache OpenOffice Online

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 5:33 PM Selçuk Öztaş  wrote:
>
> Sorry, I guess I couldn't tell.  Is there a NextCloud integration with Apache 
> OpenOffice like Libre Office Online with NextCloud integration?  I wanted to 
> ask this.
>
For your last question, above: No.

One other picayune point on WOPI:
WOPU is an open protocol and LibreOffice Online does support a WOPI
interface (server and host), which is why Nextcloud is capable of
integrating either Office 365 or LibreOffice Online with equal user
level features.

Best wishes,

Drew

> iPhone’umdan gönderildi
>
> David Belina  şunları yazdı (22 Mar 2021 00:26):
>
> 
> Online Server WOPI is a Microsoft product.  Open Office seeks to replace 4 of 
> the Office functions, Word, Powerpoint, Excel and Access with mostly 
> equivalent applications that are free and not restricted by Microsoft.
>
> Why Open Office would want to integrate with applications t is trying to 
> replace is above my pay grade.
>
>
>
>
> On March 21, 2021 at 3:15:49 PM, Selçuk Öztaş 
> (selcukoz...@outlook.com.tr) wrote:
>
> Online Server WOPI

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Re: EXPORTING NARRATIVE FILES

[Drew Jensen]

Yes, I was apparently mistaken and the built in support is only via
export, while print to pdf has to be supplied by an OS resource.


On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:42 PM Brian Barker
 wrote:
>
> At 17:35 26/05/2020 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote:
> >Same for AOO on Linux, print to pdf works for me. (AOO 4.2 dev build)
>
> So you are saying that your Linux installation also comes with a PDF
> virtual printer? Good. But - again - we cannot assume that this is so
> for all users, as it is not part of OpenOffice.
>
> Brian Barker
>
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Re: EXPORTING NARRATIVE FILES

[Drew Jensen]

Same for AOO on Linux, print to pdf works for me. (AOO 4.2 dev build)

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:34 PM Chuck Spalding  wrote:
>
> Perhaps he's using a Mac, on which the print dialog for all(?) applications
> (definitely including OpenOffice) provides the ability to "print to PDF".
>
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:26 PM Brian Barker
>  wrote:
>
> > At 15:06 26/05/2020 -0500, Steven Ahlers wrote:
> > >I generally generate PDFs from the print dialogue: from File menu
> > >choose Print, in bottom left corner there's a button to start the
> > >PDF dialogue which allows you to name the file and where you want to save
> > it.
> >
> > Really? Then you cannot be using OpenOffice! There is no such button.
> >
> > The only way to can use the Print dialogue to create a PDF version of
> > a document is if you happen to have a PDF virtual printer installed
> > on your system. That is quite a useful thing to have and you might
> > want to recommend it to others, but it is not a part of OpenOffice
> > and you cannot assume others will have it.
> >
> > Brian Barker

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Re: Installation Problems.

[Drew Jensen]

Granted that in 2020 it feels odd to still be buying DVD's with the
software on it but there is still a legitimate market for it.

I agree that there is the possibility to get things you don't want with it
but there are also folks playing it straight.

They add value by including extras, one vendor in particular has issued a
new DVD yearly, they include a custom windows installer, all the language
packs, lots of free fonts, bunches of added templates and manuals. The DVD
includes Windows and Mac binaries. They are clear in their marketing
material that support, for everything other then the installer, comes from
the AOO community.

They also charge are very reasonable price of around 10 USD or 8 Euro.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:05 PM Bruce Pierson 
wrote:

> I would be wary of getting it on a CD these days.  There are more than a
> few vendors that will sell you a CD with Open Office on it.  However, the
> CD may have other little nasties on it as well most of which you do not
> want.  If you have to pay for the software beware.
>
> “ *Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way
> of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone else is
> saying. Make an effort to separate yourself from the Internet. Read
> books.”*
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:58 PM Drew Jensen 
> wrote:
>
> > There is a long history of OpenOffice.org being offered on CD and DVD.
> >
> > This was at times with the blessings of the old owners of the
> Intellectual
> > Property rights to the URL, Sun Microsystems, and numerous individual
> > boosters, and some commercial operations.
> >
> > The practice went on after the IP was sold to Oracle and then granted to
> > Apache Software Foundation with regards to boosters and commercial
> > operations right down to today.
> >
> > You may want to nudge folks to only using the download from the
> > openoffice.org URL, that Apache OpenOffice continues to use,  but no one
> > should act surprised that some folks will have acquired it via CD or DVD.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Drew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:49 PM David Belina 
> wrote:
> >
> > > OpenOffice.org is download only.
> > >
> > >
> > > On February 24, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM, Geoffrey Hartwell (
> > > hartw...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid) wrote:
> > >
> > > Am I right that OO 4.1.7 can be installed from the URL
> > > https://www.openoffice.org/download/? There's a British/US option to
> > > choose among many languages. No Discs.
> > >
> > > Yours aye,
> > > Geoffrey
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:leg...@posteo.de]
> > > Sent: 24 February 2020 20:01
> > > To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Gilbert Gabrielsen <
> > > gilbert.gabriel...@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Installation Problems.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?
> > >
> > >
> > > All the Best
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:
> > > > I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install
> ver.
> > > > 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and
> > > > install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The
> > > > feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk
> > > that is not
> > > > available. Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
> > > > help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is
> > > > my second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.
> > > >
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Re: Installation Problems.

[Drew Jensen]

There is a long history of OpenOffice.org being offered on CD and DVD.

This was at times with the blessings of the old owners of the Intellectual
Property rights to the URL, Sun Microsystems, and numerous individual
boosters, and some commercial operations.

The practice went on after the IP was sold to Oracle and then granted to
Apache Software Foundation with regards to boosters and commercial
operations right down to today.

You may want to nudge folks to only using the download from the
openoffice.org URL, that Apache OpenOffice continues to use,  but no one
should act surprised that some folks will have acquired it via CD or DVD.

Best wishes,

Drew





On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:49 PM David Belina  wrote:

> OpenOffice.org is download only.
>
>
> On February 24, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM, Geoffrey Hartwell (
> hartw...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid) wrote:
>
> Am I right that OO 4.1.7 can be installed from the URL
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/? There's a British/US option to
> choose among many languages. No Discs.
>
> Yours aye,
> Geoffrey
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:leg...@posteo.de]
> Sent: 24 February 2020 20:01
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Gilbert Gabrielsen <
> gilbert.gabriel...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Installation Problems.
>
> Hi,
>
> do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?
>
>
> All the Best
>
> Peter
>
> Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:
> > I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install ver.
> > 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and
> > install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The
> > feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk
> that is not
> > available. Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
> > help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is
> > my second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.
> >
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Re: Possible Violation of Copyright buy 3rd party developer

[Drew Jensen]

In fact this company seems to think it has a registered trademark on the
word BASE.
https://www.baseonline.com/about-us.html

That application is not a database front end development system so I
suppose they don't really mind with regards to AOO or LO, that and it is
rare to speak of Base as something separate, it is a module of Apache
OpenOffice.

Best wishes,

Drew

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 7:40 PM Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 19:47 James Weil  wrote:
>
> > A 3rd party developer, Menial Software (n...@menial.co.uk  > i...@menial.co.uk>.,https://menial.co.uk/base/ <
> https://menial.co.uk/base/>)
> > is marketing a commercial SQLite database for the Mac as a commercial
> > product and has named it ‘Base’. This can be at the least, potentially
> > confusion to users of your free database product
>
>
> Aren't you confusing trademarks with copyright?
>
> The is IMHO no copyright infringement unless we are talking about the same
> source code being used.
>
> Trademarks, maybe, if someone registered "Base" but it's such a generic
> word that I doubt it.
>
> Remember once upon a time the PC/DOS database standard was DBase.
>
> FC
>
> >
> >
>

Re: Using Open office

[Drew Jensen]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:06 AM David Hunt  wrote:

> I have started using Open Office on my HP PC, with Windows 10.
> Sadly any document I send out can be read by other windows users, but I
> phone and some I pads complain that all documents are scrambled or Zipped.?
>
> Any suggestions please.
>

Howdy,

So, the files which you refer to as OpenOffice files are actually in a
standard format referred to as OpenDocument or ODF for short.
Apple, Inc does not, as you have heard, support files in that format with
any of their native tools.
However there are apps available on iPhone and iPad which do read and write
ODF files.

As Martin mentioned, and assuming you only want the iPhone and iPad users
to be able to read the file, then exporting as PDF is the easiest solution
and Safari browser will display those without any additional software
needed.

If you really want them to read the ODF directly or if you want them to be
able to edit those files then the users must install one of several
available apps.
OOReader is a free app in the Apple Store that will give read only access
to the files.
Collabora has an app available in the Apple Store which will read and write
ODF files on iPhone or iPad devices.
Microsoft Office, including the scaled down web based offerings will both
read and write ODF files (in fact the MS tools can be setup to use ODF by
default)
There are others as well - the key is to look for ODF compatibility.

The hassle is of course that the person you are sending the file too will
need to install one of those, or have an account for MSO web tools, and you
would likely need to let them know about that when you mail them the files.

I hope that helps,

Drew


> I do not have Microsoft Office any more, corrupted and Microsoft support
> totally unhelpful.
>
> Dave  Thanks in hope.
>
> Sent from Mail for
> Windows 10
>
>

Re: importing

[Drew Jensen]

The only way that I know of is to open the Access Query for editing and
switch to the SQL view. Then copy the text of the SQL statement and paste
into a new Query created in Base also open in SQL view mode. Rinse and
repeat for each of the queries in the Access file.

The help system in Access covers how to switch into SQL view there.

Same holds for the Base application, the help shows you how to switch the
Query designer into SQL view.

The actual select statement may need some translation from the dialect used
in Access and the dialect used by whichever of the database engines Base is
working with at the moment.

Best wishes,

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 11:28 AM  wrote:

> To whom it may concern;
>
>
>
> Presently, I am using Microsoft Access as my database for my men's club
> roster.  I have approximately 300 records.  I would like to use Apple Open
> Office Base in lieu of Access.  I have two tables (one for active members
> and one for dropped members).  I have several (at least twenty-five)
> queries
> in that Access database.
>
>
>
> I tried the online suggestion to bring over to Open Office all my tables
> and
> queries.  However, every one of the queries came over as a table.  Not one
> query.  All tables.
>
>
>
> My basic question is: Is there a way to import an Access query into Apple
> Open Office?
>
>
>
> C L Rockwell
>
> clrockwel...@gmail.com
>
>

Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)

[Drew Jensen]

Hi Scooter,

Actually Fernando was reporting on what others had said, not stating his
opinion. Just to clear that up for you.

I hope you continue to enjoy your experience with AOO.

//drew


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Scooter scoo...@scootersdesk.com wrote:

 Good Morning Group,

 I'm a bit confused. What is FOSS  FUD and why would any of us think Open
 Office is pretty much only a memory (per Mr Cassia).? I join Mr. Davis'
 opinion. I tried LibreOffice (LO) not knowing about Apache Open Office
 (AOO), and didn't like LO. It was too different from OO 3.3.
 If Mr Cassia is literally referring to the Open Office of Oracle then he
 is correct, but LO ain't it.

 How and why is Mr Cassia in this List group If he detests AOO so much. I
 can't judge his statements about the Linux version, I am a happy Win7 user
 of AOO, especially since it went into Apache's main level of support.

 I read the articles included in Mr Cassia's email. I didn't understand ,
 since most of it referred to SQL, MySQL, Maria/DB and not to LibreOffice
 The websites were geared to Linux, maybe that's why this diatribe makes no
 sense to me.

 Take Care.
 Scooter
 College Park, MD USA

 Chuck Davis wrote on 9/18/2013 5:58 AM:

  LibreOffice is a pile of crapware in my experience.  Q.C. seems to be
 missing in action!  OpenOffice has always done what I need to get done
 without irritating the daylights out of me.


 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com
 wrote:

(and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's
 investments in FOSS to end).

 LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice
 among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world
 as well. 
 OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory

 http://www.linuxtoday.com/**upload/oracle-losing-its-**
 mysql-grip-to-mariadb-**130916110509.htmlhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mariadb-130916110509.html

 Citebite archive: 
 http://pages.citebite.com/**l2e1g0y0r4kpbhttp://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb

 Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but
 not before it was widely spread around...

 This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is
 mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to
 move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever.
 https://twitter.com/sheeri/**status/372319624043716608https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608
 https://twitter.com/sheeri/**status/372099540624478208https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208

 Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD
 campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics
 are the same, lie,lie, and lie again.

 Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated
 without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT
 journalism. Case in 
 point:http://tinyurl.com/**muktware-liarshttp://tinyurl.com/muktware-liarsvs
  reality
 http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f

 Or: 
 http://pages.citebite.com/**c2u1y0m0q5vtihttp://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vtivs:reality:
 https://twitter.com/myfear/**status/380190532552884225https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225

 This isnt healthy. It needs to stop.

 In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/**
 e7v0f3m9sder http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder

 Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers
 as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither
 side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both
 firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle,
 investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans,
 Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox,
 etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that
 perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else?

 Thinking aloud
 FC

 --
 During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
 revolutionary act
 Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
 Acto Revolucionario
 - George Orwel

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