Re: Installation Problems.

2020-02-24 Thread Drew Jensen
Granted that in 2020 it feels odd to still be buying DVD's with the
software on it but there is still a legitimate market for it.

I agree that there is the possibility to get things you don't want with it
but there are also folks playing it straight.

They add value by including extras, one vendor in particular has issued a
new DVD yearly, they include a custom windows installer, all the language
packs, lots of free fonts, bunches of added templates and manuals. The DVD
includes Windows and Mac binaries. They are clear in their marketing
material that support, for everything other then the installer, comes from
the AOO community.

They also charge are very reasonable price of around 10 USD or 8 Euro.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:05 PM Bruce Pierson 
wrote:

> I would be wary of getting it on a CD these days.  There are more than a
> few vendors that will sell you a CD with Open Office on it.  However, the
> CD may have other little nasties on it as well most of which you do not
> want.  If you have to pay for the software beware.
>
> “ *Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way
> of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone else is
> saying. Make an effort to separate yourself from the Internet. Read
> books.”*
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:58 PM Drew Jensen 
> wrote:
>
> > There is a long history of OpenOffice.org being offered on CD and DVD.
> >
> > This was at times with the blessings of the old owners of the
> Intellectual
> > Property rights to the URL, Sun Microsystems, and numerous individual
> > boosters, and some commercial operations.
> >
> > The practice went on after the IP was sold to Oracle and then granted to
> > Apache Software Foundation with regards to boosters and commercial
> > operations right down to today.
> >
> > You may want to nudge folks to only using the download from the
> > openoffice.org URL, that Apache OpenOffice continues to use,  but no one
> > should act surprised that some folks will have acquired it via CD or DVD.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Drew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:49 PM David Belina 
> wrote:
> >
> > > OpenOffice.org is download only.
> > >
> > >
> > > On February 24, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM, Geoffrey Hartwell (
> > > hartw...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid) wrote:
> > >
> > > Am I right that OO 4.1.7 can be installed from the URL
> > > https://www.openoffice.org/download/? There's a British/US option to
> > > choose among many languages. No Discs.
> > >
> > > Yours aye,
> > > Geoffrey
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:leg...@posteo.de]
> > > Sent: 24 February 2020 20:01
> > > To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Gilbert Gabrielsen <
> > > gilbert.gabriel...@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Installation Problems.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?
> > >
> > >
> > > All the Best
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:
> > > > I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install
> ver.
> > > > 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and
> > > > install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The
> > > > feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk
> > > that is not
> > > > available. Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
> > > > help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is
> > > > my second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.
> > > >
> > >
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Re: Installation Problems.

2020-02-24 Thread Bruce Pierson
I would be wary of getting it on a CD these days.  There are more than a
few vendors that will sell you a CD with Open Office on it.  However, the
CD may have other little nasties on it as well most of which you do not
want.  If you have to pay for the software beware.

“ *Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way
of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone else is
saying. Make an effort to separate yourself from the Internet. Read books.”*




On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:58 PM Drew Jensen 
wrote:

> There is a long history of OpenOffice.org being offered on CD and DVD.
>
> This was at times with the blessings of the old owners of the Intellectual
> Property rights to the URL, Sun Microsystems, and numerous individual
> boosters, and some commercial operations.
>
> The practice went on after the IP was sold to Oracle and then granted to
> Apache Software Foundation with regards to boosters and commercial
> operations right down to today.
>
> You may want to nudge folks to only using the download from the
> openoffice.org URL, that Apache OpenOffice continues to use,  but no one
> should act surprised that some folks will have acquired it via CD or DVD.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Drew
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:49 PM David Belina  wrote:
>
> > OpenOffice.org is download only.
> >
> >
> > On February 24, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM, Geoffrey Hartwell (
> > hartw...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid) wrote:
> >
> > Am I right that OO 4.1.7 can be installed from the URL
> > https://www.openoffice.org/download/? There's a British/US option to
> > choose among many languages. No Discs.
> >
> > Yours aye,
> > Geoffrey
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:leg...@posteo.de]
> > Sent: 24 February 2020 20:01
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Gilbert Gabrielsen <
> > gilbert.gabriel...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Installation Problems.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?
> >
> >
> > All the Best
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:
> > > I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install ver.
> > > 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and
> > > install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The
> > > feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk
> > that is not
> > > available. Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
> > > help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is
> > > my second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.
> > >
> >
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> >
>


Re: Installation Problems.

2020-02-24 Thread Drew Jensen
There is a long history of OpenOffice.org being offered on CD and DVD.

This was at times with the blessings of the old owners of the Intellectual
Property rights to the URL, Sun Microsystems, and numerous individual
boosters, and some commercial operations.

The practice went on after the IP was sold to Oracle and then granted to
Apache Software Foundation with regards to boosters and commercial
operations right down to today.

You may want to nudge folks to only using the download from the
openoffice.org URL, that Apache OpenOffice continues to use,  but no one
should act surprised that some folks will have acquired it via CD or DVD.

Best wishes,

Drew





On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:49 PM David Belina  wrote:

> OpenOffice.org is download only.
>
>
> On February 24, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM, Geoffrey Hartwell (
> hartw...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid) wrote:
>
> Am I right that OO 4.1.7 can be installed from the URL
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/? There's a British/US option to
> choose among many languages. No Discs.
>
> Yours aye,
> Geoffrey
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:leg...@posteo.de]
> Sent: 24 February 2020 20:01
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Gilbert Gabrielsen <
> gilbert.gabriel...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Installation Problems.
>
> Hi,
>
> do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?
>
>
> All the Best
>
> Peter
>
> Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:
> > I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install ver.
> > 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and
> > install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The
> > feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk
> that is not
> > available. Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
> > help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is
> > my second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.
> >
>
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RE: Installation Problems.

2020-02-24 Thread David Belina
OpenOffice.org is download only.


On February 24, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM, Geoffrey Hartwell 
(hartw...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid) wrote:

Am I right that OO 4.1.7 can be installed from the URL 
https://www.openoffice.org/download/? There's a British/US option to choose 
among many languages. No Discs.  

Yours aye,  
Geoffrey  
-Original Message-  
From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:leg...@posteo.de]  
Sent: 24 February 2020 20:01  
To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Gilbert Gabrielsen 
  
Subject: Re: Installation Problems.  

Hi,  

do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?  


All the Best  

Peter  

Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:  
> I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install ver.  
> 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and  
> install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The  
> feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk that is 
> not  
> available. Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any  
> help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is  
> my second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.  
>  

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RE: Installation Problems.

2020-02-24 Thread Geoffrey Hartwell
Am I right that OO 4.1.7 can be installed from the URL 
https://www.openoffice.org/download/?  There's a British/US option to choose 
among many languages.  No Discs.

Yours aye,
Geoffrey
-Original Message-
From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:leg...@posteo.de] 
Sent: 24 February 2020 20:01
To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Gilbert Gabrielsen 

Subject: Re: Installation Problems.

Hi,

do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?


All the Best

Peter

Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:
> I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install ver.
> 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and 
> install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The 
> feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk that is 
> not
> available.   Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
> help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is 
> my second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.
>

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Re: Installation Problems.

2020-02-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:30:46 -0600
Gilbert Gabrielsen  wrote:

> I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install ver.
> 4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and
> install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The feature you
> are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk that is not
> available.   Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
> help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is my
> second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.

You can download an reinstall OO 3.2; it should then be capable of being 
uninstalled.

Or, you could download a utility such as CCleaner and tell it to remove 
OpenOffice 3.2; OO 4.1.7 should then install.


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Re: Installation Problems.

2020-02-24 Thread Peter Kovacs

Hi,

do you have the CD with OpenOffice Version 3.2?


All the Best

Peter

Am 24.02.20 um 20:30 schrieb Gilbert Gabrielsen:

I am a long time user of Open Office. I recently tried to install ver.
4.1.7. I had some problems so I decided to remove the old version and
install the newer one. Every time I try I get this message 'The feature you
are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk that is not
available.   Insert the 'Open Office.org' 3.2 disk and click ok'. Any
help you can give me with this problem would be appreciated. This is my
second request. Gilbert Gabrielsen at keit...@yahoo.com.



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Re: Installation Problems

2020-02-13 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:32:15 -0600
Gilbert Gabrielsen  wrote:

> My name is Gilbert Gabrielsen. I have been having trouble installing your
> software. Every time I try I get a message to insert the Open Office.org
> 3.2 disk. I thought the problem might be with the version I had on my
> computer so I uninstalled it and tried to install a new version. Same
> problem. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
>  Gilbert Gabrielsen
> 
>   keit...@yahoo.com

It would be useful if you had given us the exact wording of the message, but at 
a guess, this message might be that it needs the OpenOffice 3.2 disk to 
uninstall the existing version of OpenOffice.

You could download the version 3.2, make a DVD of it and follow the prompting 
before installing OpenOffice 4.1.7 (latest).

Or, download a utility such as CCleaner and tell it to remove OO 3.2, reboot 
computer, then install OO 4.1.7.


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Re: Installation Problems

2020-02-13 Thread David Belina
Did you download the file from OpenOffice.org?  I don’t know of any version of 
OO that uses a CD disk.

Latest version is 4.1.7 ( https://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html)

If you paid for the version (very obsolete) that you are trying to install, you 
got ripped off.  Open Office is free.

Dave


On February 13, 2020 at 10:35:13 AM, Gilbert Gabrielsen 
(gilbert.gabriel...@gmail.com) wrote:

My name is Gilbert Gabrielsen. I have been having trouble installing your  
software. Every time I try I get a message to insert the Open Office.org  
3.2 disk. I thought the problem might be with the version I had on my  
computer so I uninstalled it and tried to install a new version. Same  
problem. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.  



Gilbert Gabrielsen  

keit...@yahoo.com  


Re: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8

2015-09-17 Thread Urmas

"Keith N. McKenna":
???

Please stop using the fake digital signature.




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Re: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8

2015-09-17 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 9/17/2015 3:11 PM, Urmas wrote:
> "Keith N. McKenna":
> ???
> 
> Please stop using the fake digital signature.
Urmas as always you display your blinding ignorance. That signature is a
valid OpenPGP signature. Just because your crippled mail client cannot
understand it is not my problem and does not mean it is fake.

Keith



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


RE: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8

2015-09-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Take it easy, everyone

For those reading at home, note that, from Keith's message headers (which your 
reader might not show you),

   Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256;
   protocol="application/pgp-signature";
   boundary="JvV7IIxE9KUf4lmELnVij5s6phPdQh9Bs"
   X-Complaints-To: use...@ger.gmane.org
   X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-60-71-26.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
   X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.gmane.org:119
   User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
   Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35

Indicates that the sender is using Firefox to send a PGP signature via Firefox 
to GMane and from there to the Users list at oo.a.o, each list manager doing 
whatever it does whatever it does when it encounters such a signature.

Finally not all email readers recognize these, even with no suspects 
in-between the sender and receiver.  My reader recognizes that it was signed 
but I have not installed any plug-in to handle that protocol ID.

SO the sender has no idea what intermediary lost the signature binding, and 
the receiver has no idea whether the signature was good when the message 
started its wanderings through two list systems and reached his mail reader 
which, like mine, might only recognize X.509 digital signatures without being 
given a way to check others.

One can check what the users@ oo.a.o software makes of the message at
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/201509.mbox/%3Cmtefh2%24b7m%241%40ger.gmane.org%3E>.
Notice it too separates the appended signature as if it is an attachment.
If you look at the "raw" message, you might notice that this is not in a 
format that can be checked directly with GnuPG because of differences in 
boundary markers and other details,
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/201509.mbox/raw/%3cmtefh2$b7m$1...@ger.gmane.org%3e>,

 - Dennis

PS: Senders, if you want your signed message to pass through the maze of 
intermediaries with a chance of being verifiable, write a text file, sign it 
(asci-armored) as a text file using an implementation of OpenPGP, such as 
GnuPG.  And paste the whole ascii-armored text into a blank, unsigned email 
message. Intermediaries will usually leave the content intact enough to be 
verifiable by a recipient who knows how to check the text with GnuPG.
  Or take the easy way and realize reality does not match every expectation 
and don't bother to sign messages to public mailing lists.

PPS: For those following along at home, I have signed this by a long-standing, 
venerable method and we'll see what the list-management software does with 
this one
[;<).


-Original Message-
From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 13:12
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8

On 9/17/2015 3:11 PM, Urmas wrote:
> "Keith N. McKenna":
> ???
>
> Please stop using the fake digital signature.
Urmas as always you display your blinding ignorance. That signature is a
valid OpenPGP signature. Just because your crippled mail client cannot
understand it is not my problem and does not mean it is fake.

Keith



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature


Re: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8

2015-09-17 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Take it easy, everyone
> 
> For those reading at home, note that, from Keith's message headers (which 
> your 
> reader might not show you),
> 
>Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256;
>protocol="application/pgp-signature";
>boundary="JvV7IIxE9KUf4lmELnVij5s6phPdQh9Bs"
>X-Complaints-To: use...@ger.gmane.org
>X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-60-71-26.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
>X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.gmane.org:119
>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
>Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
> 
> Indicates that the sender is using Firefox to send a PGP signature via 
> Firefox 
> to GMane and from there to the Users list at oo.a.o, each list manager doing 
> whatever it does whatever it does when it encounters such a signature.
> 
> Finally not all email readers recognize these, even with no suspects 
> in-between the sender and receiver.  My reader recognizes that it was signed 
> but I have not installed any plug-in to handle that protocol ID.
> 
> SO the sender has no idea what intermediary lost the signature binding, and 
> the receiver has no idea whether the signature was good when the message 
> started its wanderings through two list systems and reached his mail reader 
> which, like mine, might only recognize X.509 digital signatures without being 
> given a way to check others.
> 
> One can check what the users@ oo.a.o software makes of the message at
> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/201509.mbox/%3Cmtefh2%24b7m%241%40ger.gmane.org%3E>.
> Notice it too separates the appended signature as if it is an attachment.
> If you look at the "raw" message, you might notice that this is not in a 
> format that can be checked directly with GnuPG because of differences in 
> boundary markers and other details,
> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/201509.mbox/raw/%3cmtefh2$b7m$1...@ger.gmane.org%3e>,
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> PS: Senders, if you want your signed message to pass through the maze of 
> intermediaries with a chance of being verifiable, write a text file, sign it 
> (asci-armored) as a text file using an implementation of OpenPGP, such as 
> GnuPG.  And paste the whole ascii-armored text into a blank, unsigned email 
> message. Intermediaries will usually leave the content intact enough to be 
> verifiable by a recipient who knows how to check the text with GnuPG.
>   Or take the easy way and realize reality does not match every expectation 
> and don't bother to sign messages to public mailing lists.
> 
Dennis;
Actually my signature is created by GNUPG via the gpg4win variant. I use
SeaMonkey's mail/news client with the enigmail add-on to manage OpenPGP
signing and encryption. I have my enigmail options set to use pgpmime
which will send the sig as an attachment. I have done it this way on
purpose so that people who do not use an OpenPGP compliant mail
client,which includes most web-mail implementations, do not have to wade
through the begin and end data that would get added otherwise.

I do apologize to the rest of the list for my rather heated reply.
However this is not my first go around with the individual so I
unfortunately let my personal feelings overrule my better judgement.

Regards
Keith

> PPS: For those following along at home, I have signed this by a 
> long-standing, 
> venerable method and we'll see what the list-management software does with 
> this one
> [;<).
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 13:12
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8
> 
> On 9/17/2015 3:11 PM, Urmas wrote:
>> "Keith N. McKenna":
>> ???
>>
>> Please stop using the fake digital signature.
> Urmas as always you display your blinding ignorance. That signature is a
> valid OpenPGP signature. Just because your crippled mail client cannot
> understand it is not my problem and does not mean it is fake.
> 
> Keith
> 




signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


RE: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8

2015-09-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Below,
-Original Message-
From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 20:01
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installation problems with V 4.1.1 on Windows 8
[ ... ] 
Dennis;
Actually my signature is created by GNUPG via the gpg4win variant. I use
SeaMonkey's mail/news client with the enigmail add-on to manage OpenPGP
signing and encryption. I have my enigmail options set to use pgpmime
which will send the sig as an attachment. I have done it this way on
purpose so that people who do not use an OpenPGP compliant mail
client,which includes most web-mail implementations, do not have to wade
through the begin and end data that would get added otherwise.


   The problem is that, with the thing done as an attachment, even those of us 
who use gpg4win, the same as you, can't verify the signature without a plug-in. 
 That's because the ASCII-armored but mystifying boundaries and the signature 
block on the end are not available for checking by saving the mail as text and 
running gpg4win on it. 
 
   

[ ... ]



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