Re: Open Office vs MS Office
2014-07-15 7:16 GMT+02:00 Senior.System Analyst : Dear Sir/Madam, Kindly provide us your comments for the following at the earliest. (a) Formatting (color size, shapes, etc.) may change once MS word document is opened in Open Office. [...] I wonder if it is sensible to compare individual features and behaviour across different programs, even when they are designed to "do the same thing". Seems to me it is simpler (and a lot more useful) that you focus instead on what you want to do with an office suite. Once you have defined your requirements, you will then be able to compare how MS Office and Open Office can achieve those results, and compare their performance "for the task". HTH, mt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office vs MS Office
On 7/14/2014 10:16 PM, Senior.System Analyst wrote: >(a) Formatting (color size, shapes, etc.) may change once MS word document is opened in Open Office. As a general rule, if the document remains the same when opened with different versions of MSO, it will remain the same when opened with AOo. >(b) Sometimes behaviour of open office is uncertain when using Smart Art & Word Art styles (of MS Power point, excel). This is problematic when switching between document formats, and programs that can not read/write/edit ODF file formats. > (c) Animation of MS Powerpoint slides does not always work as desired in Open > Office. Known issue. > (d) Although macros are supported in Open Office but the Macros created using > MS Office cannot be executed in Open Office. AOo and MSO use different languages for macros. As such, you'll have to rewrite the macros in a language that AOo understands. That said, there used to be a program that converted MSO macros to AOo. I don't know if that program is still available. When migrating to AOo from MSO, two things are vital: * Rewrite all macros in a language that AOo can utilize; * Construct all templates from scratch, specifically for AOo; That means that your organization will either have to train somebody in-house to write macros, and construct templates, or hire an independent contractor to perform that task for your organization. > (e) Some of the features that are easily available in MS Office could not be > found in Open office such as;- > (i) Spelling / Grammar check Dictionaries in all of the official languages of India have been released. However, they have not been maintained. OTOH, fixing errors, adding words, deleting words, etc to a dictionary is fairly straightforward. Thus far, the grammar checkers have focused on European languages. Language Tool has a basic rule set for Malayalam. Developing functional rule sets requires both a deep knowledge of the grammar of the language, and a comprehensive understanding of XML. Understanding when, and more importantly, when _not_ to create rules used by Language Tool is an art form that few people master. Between the various grammar checkers, roughly 40 languages can claim some type of grammar checking. However, I wouldn't rely on any of them. OTOH, I've yet to see any of them do what MSO specializes in --- claim the sentence is grammatically incorrect, change it to what it calls correct, and then claim the correction is grammatically incorrect, and change it back to the way it was, repeating the cycle ad infinitum. > (ii) View files side by side with Synchronous scrolling I've seen that demoed in an OpenOffice.org fork, but don't know which fork it was, nor how it was done. :( For the time being, assume it isn't present in AOo, and won't be included for a couple of versions. > (iii) Converting the impress document into PDF results in the printing of > all hidden slides too. That is a configuration issue. Change the settings, and the behaviour will change. jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office vs MS Office
On Jul 15, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote: > > As this is a user forum, the answers you see (if you we're subscribed to this > forum) > are from users. Don't expect that developers will read this forum. > > There are difference, OpenOffice has reversed engineer the MS Office code, > hence > conversions will always has minor problems. > > OpenOffice is implemented in many large companies and governmental institutes. > > OpenOffice give you all the functionality that MS Office has, but it could > take time to > learn to work with Styles. > > If you need 100% compatibility or if you need to work on documents with > partners > who use MS Office stick with MS Office. > > The real question is: Can you achieve your goals with OpenOffice and that's > something only you can answer. > > On 15-7-2014 15:16, Senior.System Analyst wrote: >> Dear Sir/Madam, >> Kindly provide us your comments for the following at the earliest. >> (a) Formatting (color size, shapes, etc.) may change once MS word document >> is opened in Open Office. >> (b) Sometimes behaviour of open office is uncertain when using Smart Art & >> Word Art styles (of MS Power point, excel). >> (c) Animation of MS Powerpoint slides does not always work as desired in >> Open Office. >> (d) Although macros are supported in Open Office but the Macros created >> using MS Office cannot be executed in Open Office. >> (e) Some of the features that are easily available in MS Office could not be >> found in Open office such as;- >> (i) Spelling / Grammer check >> (ii) View files side by side with Synchronous scrolling >> (iii) Converting the impress document into PDF results in the printing of >> all hidden slides too. But in MS Office, the hidden slides are not printed >> even when it is converted into PDF. >> >> An early reply will highly be appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> >> J. Balachandran, >> DSP, CBI, System Division, >> >> New Delhi >> >> 011-24365140 >> 9650094172 >> cc: Mr. Vikram, k/p 18.04.2014 >> The compatibility issues (a), (b), (c) and (d) are true for any proprietary file structure, and can be seen between different versions of MS Office. My version of Apache Open Office has spell checking and dictionaries available in many different languages and dialects. I don't use grammar checking but I believe extensions are available that will perform that function. Depending on your operating system and display you should be able to view multiple documents side by side; I can easily view two documents on my iMac and even a third using my iPad as an auxiliary display. I don't know enough about presentation software to address your last issue. Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office vs MS Office
As this is a user forum, the answers you see (if you we're subscribed to this forum) are from users. Don't expect that developers will read this forum. There are difference, OpenOffice has reversed engineer the MS Office code, hence conversions will always has minor problems. OpenOffice is implemented in many large companies and governmental institutes. OpenOffice give you all the functionality that MS Office has, but it could take time to learn to work with Styles. If you need 100% compatibility or if you need to work on documents with partners who use MS Office stick with MS Office. The real question is: Can you achieve your goals with OpenOffice and that's something only you can answer. On 15-7-2014 15:16, Senior.System Analyst wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, Kindly provide us your comments for the following at the earliest. (a) Formatting (color size, shapes, etc.) may change once MS word document is opened in Open Office. (b) Sometimes behaviour of open office is uncertain when using Smart Art & Word Art styles (of MS Power point, excel). (c) Animation of MS Powerpoint slides does not always work as desired in Open Office. (d) Although macros are supported in Open Office but the Macros created using MS Office cannot be executed in Open Office. (e) Some of the features that are easily available in MS Office could not be found in Open office such as;- (i) Spelling / Grammer check (ii) View files side by side with Synchronous scrolling (iii) Converting the impress document into PDF results in the printing of all hidden slides too. But in MS Office, the hidden slides are not printed even when it is converted into PDF. An early reply will highly be appreciated. Regards, J. Balachandran, DSP, CBI, System Division, New Delhi 011-24365140 9650094172 cc: Mr. Vikram, k/p 18.04.2014
Re: Open Office vs MS Office
Is a good reason to drop MS Office once and for all and migrate to OpenOffice. On 7/15/14, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > 2014-07-15 7:16 GMT+02:00 Senior.System Analyst : > >> Dear Sir/Madam, >> Kindly provide us your comments for the following at the earliest. >> (a) Formatting (color size, shapes, etc.) may change once MS word >> document >> is opened in Open Office. >> (b) Sometimes behaviour of open office is uncertain when using Smart Art >> & >> Word Art styles (of MS Power point, excel). >> (c) Animation of MS Powerpoint slides does not always work as desired in >> Open Office. >> (d) Although macros are supported in Open Office but the Macros created >> using MS Office cannot be executed in Open Office. >> (e) Some of the features that are easily available in MS Office could not >> be found in Open office such as;- >> (i) Spelling / Grammer check >> (ii) View files side by side with Synchronous scrolling >> (iii) Converting the impress document into PDF results in the printing >> of >> all hidden slides too. But in MS Office, the hidden slides are not >> printed >> even when it is converted into PDF. >> >> An early reply will highly be appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> >> J. Balachandran, >> DSP, CBI, System Division, >> >> New Delhi >> >> 011-24365140 >> 9650094172 >> cc: Mr. Vikram, k/p 18.04.2014 >> > > So obviously you will want to use MS Office. What's stopping you? > > > J.R. > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office vs MS Office
2014-07-15 7:16 GMT+02:00 Senior.System Analyst : > Dear Sir/Madam, > Kindly provide us your comments for the following at the earliest. > (a) Formatting (color size, shapes, etc.) may change once MS word document > is opened in Open Office. > (b) Sometimes behaviour of open office is uncertain when using Smart Art & > Word Art styles (of MS Power point, excel). > (c) Animation of MS Powerpoint slides does not always work as desired in > Open Office. > (d) Although macros are supported in Open Office but the Macros created > using MS Office cannot be executed in Open Office. > (e) Some of the features that are easily available in MS Office could not > be found in Open office such as;- > (i) Spelling / Grammer check > (ii) View files side by side with Synchronous scrolling > (iii) Converting the impress document into PDF results in the printing of > all hidden slides too. But in MS Office, the hidden slides are not printed > even when it is converted into PDF. > > An early reply will highly be appreciated. > > Regards, > > J. Balachandran, > DSP, CBI, System Division, > > New Delhi > > 011-24365140 > 9650094172 > cc: Mr. Vikram, k/p 18.04.2014 > So obviously you will want to use MS Office. What's stopping you? J.R.