Oracle Report Builder working with AOO 4.1.5?

2018-09-22 Thread Girvin Herr

Greetings,

A while back, I read in this forum that the Oracle Report Builder 1.2.1 
does work with AOO 4.1.5, despite the opposite indications on the 
extensions website. Is this still true?


The extensions website shows this as a 75%/25% working/not-working 
rating from the users. However, this page is still very old and may not 
be the latest response. Even so, 75/25 is not all that great.


I have been using LibreOffice for reports, but I recently discovered 
that LO 5.3.4.2 will no longer copy-paste a report, so I could edit it 
without modifying the original. This LO failure may not be a 
show-stopper to my work flow, but it does hinder my productivity a lot. 
I am in search of an alternative/backup for this function, so I thought 
I would try AOO report building again.


Thanks.
Girvin Herr



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Re: oracle-report-builder

2016-07-02 Thread Girvin R. Herr

...
On 07/02/2016 01:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:


[orcmid]

I think this tells most of the story:
<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-report-builder>.

The code was imported into the Apache OpenOffice source-code tree in 2011.  
Since then, it has only been touched in cosmetic ways that don't repair or 
update anything.  No one has put technical work into it.

Unfortunately, the desirability of this to users is different than their being 
the capacity, capability, and commitment of volunteer developers to work on 
this.

I think it is safe to say that the project lacks the capacity to work on this 
extension and that changing is not foreseeable at this time.

  



  - Dennis


Dennis,
That's too bad.  I was getting to like AOO 4.1.2.  I may still use it 
for docs, since it seems to have fixed some frustrating bugs in Writer 
that LO, at least the last version I tried (4.4), still has after years 
and many releases.  However, I must use LO, probably 3.6, for my 
databases.  LO 3.6 and its Report Builder were fairly stable for me.  
Subsequent LO releases were too buggy for me to use.  The LO 3.6 Report 
Builder was still slow, but I think I have narrowed that down to 
comparing strings.  It is much faster if I only compare numbers, which 
makes sense.


Thank goodness we have open file formats so that I can use the tools 
that work best.


Thanks.
Girvin Herr


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RE: oracle-report-builder

2016-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton


> -Original Message-
> From: Girvin R. Herr [mailto:gherr...@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:42
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: oracle-report-builder
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/02/2016 08:25 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
[ ... ]
> > ​We had a framework change with version 4.0. What this means in that
> the
> > development structure for extensions needed to change. Oracle is no
> longer
> > doing active development for this extension. See references on:
> >
> > ​http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-report-builder
> >
> > You might find the discussion on the Forums useful as well:
> >
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57062
> >
> >
> Wait!  Back the truck up!  This is news to me.
> I just tested this and confirmed that the OP is correct and the Report
> Builder is not working in AOO 4, even though the Report menu options
> (Edit, Open, etc.) are present.  I assumed RB was bundled with AOO, as
> it was with LibreOffice.  My last report gen was in January and I
> installed AOO 4 in December.  I must have still been evaluating AOO and
> used LO 3 to gen those last reports.  I totally agree with threenorms'
> posting in the above referenced forum thread:
> 
> "honestly: why did everyone on the development end apparently think that
> generating actual, meaningful reports with totals based on data, was NOT
> part of a database program? without being able to generate reports, the
> whole thing is useless! ARGH!"
[orcmid] 

I think this tells most of the story: 
<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-report-builder>.

The code was imported into the Apache OpenOffice source-code tree in 2011.  
Since then, it has only been touched in cosmetic ways that don't repair or 
update anything.  No one has put technical work into it.

Unfortunately, the desirability of this to users is different than their being 
the capacity, capability, and commitment of volunteer developers to work on 
this.

I think it is safe to say that the project lacks the capacity to work on this 
extension and that changing is not foreseeable at this time.

 
> 
> Not having the report builder in AOO is a deal breaker for me.  I must
> have it to gen my reports.  Now, as a result of this disclosure, I must
> abandon AOO and go back to the old but stable LO 3, or the buggy LO 4,
> as well as LO's lack of support like this forum.
> 
> Also, I assumed that LO got custody of the Oracle Report Builder code
> when they bundled it in to the LO code. That may be a bad assumption.
[orcmid] 

I have no idea about that.  However, LO has access and use of the code carried 
in the Apache OpenOffice repository and they could have adapted from that if it 
was a better starting point for the current use of the MPL license on 
LibreOffice releases.  

 - Dennis
> 
> Girvin Herr
> 
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Re: oracle-report-builder

2016-07-02 Thread Girvin R. Herr



On 07/02/2016 08:25 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 6:26 AM, T.H.A. Jenniskens 
wrote:


LS,



I have a problem with oracle-report-builder.



Until a few days ago it functioned properly.



Now it turns out suddenly that the report-bilder is gone.



If I want to open previously created report "LijstZi" , I get the message:



 



--

Then have the oracle-report-builder downloaded again.

In  is now the file 



When I double click on it, while Office 4.1.2 is open

come to the screen: . of OpenOffice.

There  the message appears:



 Extension (s) Add:

 C: \ Users \ THA \ AppData \ Roaming \ OpenOffice \ 4 \ user \
uno_packages

 \ Cach \ uno_packages \ sv11t27.tmp_ \ oracle-report-builder,
oxt

 does not exist



I tried reinstalling the latest version of OpenOffice 4.1.2,

but that does not help



Can you help me get my report builder.



In advance thank you very much



THA (Theo) Jenniskens







​We had a framework change with version 4.0. What this means in that the
development structure for extensions needed to change. Oracle is no longer
doing active development for this extension. See references on:

​http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-report-builder

You might find the discussion on the Forums useful as well:

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57062



Wait!  Back the truck up!  This is news to me.
I just tested this and confirmed that the OP is correct and the Report 
Builder is not working in AOO 4, even though the Report menu options 
(Edit, Open, etc.) are present.  I assumed RB was bundled with AOO, as 
it was with LibreOffice.  My last report gen was in January and I 
installed AOO 4 in December.  I must have still been evaluating AOO and 
used LO 3 to gen those last reports.  I totally agree with threenorms' 
posting in the above referenced forum thread:


"honestly: why did everyone on the development end apparently think that 
generating actual, meaningful reports with totals based on data, was NOT 
part of a database program? without being able to generate reports, the 
whole thing is useless! ARGH!"


Not having the report builder in AOO is a deal breaker for me.  I must 
have it to gen my reports.  Now, as a result of this disclosure, I must 
abandon AOO and go back to the old but stable LO 3, or the buggy LO 4, 
as well as LO's lack of support like this forum.


Also, I assumed that LO got custody of the Oracle Report Builder code 
when they bundled it in to the LO code. That may be a bad assumption.


Girvin Herr



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Re: oracle-report-builder

2016-07-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 6:26 AM, T.H.A. Jenniskens 
wrote:

> LS,
>
>
>
> I have a problem with oracle-report-builder.
>
>
>
> Until a few days ago it functioned properly.
>
>
>
> Now it turns out suddenly that the report-bilder is gone.
>
>
>
> If I want to open previously created report "LijstZi" , I get the message:
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> ------------
> --
>
> Then have the oracle-report-builder downloaded again.
>
> In  is now the file 
>
>
>
> When I double click on it, while Office 4.1.2 is open
>
> come to the screen: . of OpenOffice.
>
> There  the message appears:
>
>
>
> Extension (s) Add:
>
>     C: \ Users \ THA \ AppData \ Roaming \ OpenOffice \ 4 \ user \
> uno_packages
>
> \ Cach \ uno_packages \ sv11t27.tmp_ \ oracle-report-builder,
> oxt
>
> does not exist
>
>
>
> I tried reinstalling the latest version of OpenOffice 4.1.2,
>
> but that does not help
>
>
>
> Can you help me get my report builder.
>
>
>
> In advance thank you very much
>
>
>
> THA (Theo) Jenniskens
>
>
>
>
>
>
​We had a framework change with version 4.0. What this means in that the
development structure for extensions needed to change. Oracle is no longer
doing active development for this extension. See references on:

​http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-report-builder

You might find the discussion on the Forums useful as well:

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57062


-- 
--
MzK

"Time spent with cats is never wasted."
-- Sigmund Freud


oracle-report-builder

2016-07-02 Thread T.H.A. Jenniskens
LS,

 

I have a problem with oracle-report-builder.

 

Until a few days ago it functioned properly.

 

Now it turns out suddenly that the report-bilder is gone.

 

If I want to open previously created report "LijstZi" , I get the message:

 




--

Then have the oracle-report-builder downloaded again.

In  is now the file 

 

When I double click on it, while Office 4.1.2 is open

come to the screen: . of OpenOffice.

There  the message appears:

 

Extension (s) Add:

C: \ Users \ THA \ AppData \ Roaming \ OpenOffice \ 4 \ user \
uno_packages

\ Cach \ uno_packages \ sv11t27.tmp_ \ oracle-report-builder,
oxt

does not exist

 

I tried reinstalling the latest version of OpenOffice 4.1.2,

but that does not help

 

Can you help me get my report builder.

 

In advance thank you very much

 

THA (Theo) Jenniskens