Re: Applying Page Styles
Original Message From: David Stuhr [mailto:david.st...@verizon.net.INVALID] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022, 16:13 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Applying Page Styles > I am having difficulty applying a different page style to new pages in > an existing document. Double clicking, as instructed in the help, does > not change the page style. > > The only way i have been able to apply a new page style is when the > document does not have any text/content. Is this a bug? > > Thank you. > > David You need to add a break between pages of different styles. * Place the cursor at the point in your document where you want the page styles to change. * From the main menu select "Insert -> Manual Break". * The "Insert Break" dialog opens. * If not already selected, select the "Page Break" option. * Click the "Style" drop-down list and select the required page style. Click the "Help" button in that dialog for more information. Hope that helps. Regards Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Applying Page Styles
I am having difficulty applying a different page style to new pages in an existing document. Double clicking, as instructed in the help, does not change the page style. The only way i have been able to apply a new page style is when the document does not have any text/content. Is this a bug? Thank you. David
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:05:33 +0200 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > 2016-09-11 10:12 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > > > Which OS do you use? > > > > Ubuntu 14.04, 32-bit > > > Kind regards > > Johnny Rosenberg > Earlier version of OO (contemporary with 14.04) ran OK for me on Xubuntu 14.04 32 bit. RoryOF > > > > > > I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1 > > > > kind regards > > > > Matthias Seidel > > > > > > Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg: > > > 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > > > > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> is anyone else having this issue? > > >> > > > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always > > > cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but > > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem > > persists, > > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > > > > > > So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched > > over > > > (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I > > > don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of > > > them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at > > least. > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Johnny Rosenberg > > > > > > > > > > > >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 > > >> > > >> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. > > >> > > >> kind regards > > >> > > >> Matthias Seidel > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
2016-09-11 10:36 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > I can confirm that it does not occur on Xubuntu 16.04.1. So it may be > related to the window manager. > Could be, I use Compiz, which is rather buggy, as it seems, and I don't use the default settings. For instance I use the desktop cube för desktop shifting. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg > I will try en-uk on Ubuntu 16.04.1 to see if it is related to the > language pack. > > There are at least 2 other situations where I can reproduce a crash. > One was confirmed for 4.1.1 on Mac > (https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125762). > > Matthias Seidel > > > Am 11.09.2016 um 10:21 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:12:20 +0200 > > Matthias Seidel wrote: > > > >> Which OS do you use? > >> > >> I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1 > >> > >> kind regards > >> > >> Matthias Seidel > > The bug does not occur on any of my Xubuntu 16.04.1 machines (en-UK). > There have been reports that it can occur on full Ubuntu 1g.04.1; other > users of Xubuntu 16.04.1 report no such bug. I do not know the situation > of other *Ubuntu 16.04.1 versions > > > > Rory O'Farrell > > > > > >> > >> Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg: > >>> 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel >: > >>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> is anyone else having this issue? > >>>> > >>> Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always > >>> cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago > but > >>> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > >>> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > >>> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem > persists, > >>> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > >>> > >>> So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched > over > >>> (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I > >>> don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of > >>> them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at > least. > >>> > >>> > >>> Kind regards > >>> > >>> Johnny Rosenberg > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 > >>>> > >>>> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. > >>>> > >>>> kind regards > >>>> > >>>> Matthias Seidel > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > > >
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
2016-09-11 10:12 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > Which OS do you use? > Ubuntu 14.04, 32-bit Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg > > I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1 > > kind regards > > Matthias Seidel > > > Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg: > > 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> is anyone else having this issue? > >> > > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always > > cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem > persists, > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > > > > So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched > over > > (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I > > don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of > > them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at > least. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnny Rosenberg > > > > > > > >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 > >> > >> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. > >> > >> kind regards > >> > >> Matthias Seidel > >> > >> > >> > > >
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
2016-09-11 9:54 GMT+02:00 Fernando Cassia : > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg > > wrote: > > > I mentioned it here a few years ago but > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem > persists, > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > > > > Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by > you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide > sample documents? > I don't remember, this was a couple of years ago, I think… But I guess I could, if nobody else can reproduce it with any file. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg > > FC > -- > During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary > act > - George Orwell >
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
2016-09-11 10:03 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell : > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 07:54:56 + > Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg < > gurus.knu...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I mentioned it here a few years ago but > > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem > persists, > > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > > > > > > > Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced > by > > you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide > > sample documents? > > > > FC > > -- > > During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a > revolutionary > > act > > - George Orwell > > Does it work when Windows is started in "Safe Mode"? If so, the problem > is caused by crosstalk from some application/driver that runs in Windows > Normal mode. On my infrequently used Windows machine (XP) it works > correctly. > Don't know anything about Windows, didn't use it since 2007. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg > > -- > Rory O'Farrell > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
I think everyone who experiences this bug should vote for it in bugzilla: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 And give as much information as possible to the developers... kind regards Matthias Seidel Am 11.09.2016 um 09:54 schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg > wrote: > >> I mentioned it here a few years ago but >> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware >> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything >> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists, >> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. >> > Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by > you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide > sample documents? > > FC smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
I can confirm that it does not occur on Xubuntu 16.04.1. So it may be related to the window manager. I will try en-uk on Ubuntu 16.04.1 to see if it is related to the language pack. There are at least 2 other situations where I can reproduce a crash. One was confirmed for 4.1.1 on Mac (https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125762). Matthias Seidel Am 11.09.2016 um 10:21 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:12:20 +0200 > Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> Which OS do you use? >> >> I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1 >> >> kind regards >> >> Matthias Seidel > The bug does not occur on any of my Xubuntu 16.04.1 machines (en-UK). There > have been reports that it can occur on full Ubuntu 1g.04.1; other users of > Xubuntu 16.04.1 report no such bug. I do not know the situation of other > *Ubuntu 16.04.1 versions > > Rory O'Farrell > > >> >> Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg: >>> 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> is anyone else having this issue? >>>> >>> Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always >>> cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but >>> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware >>> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything >>> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists, >>> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. >>> >>> So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched over >>> (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I >>> don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of >>> them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at least. >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnny Rosenberg >>> >>> >>> >>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 >>>> >>>> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. >>>> >>>> kind regards >>>> >>>> Matthias Seidel >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:12:20 +0200 Matthias Seidel wrote: > Which OS do you use? > > I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1 > > kind regards > > Matthias Seidel The bug does not occur on any of my Xubuntu 16.04.1 machines (en-UK). There have been reports that it can occur on full Ubuntu 1g.04.1; other users of Xubuntu 16.04.1 report no such bug. I do not know the situation of other *Ubuntu 16.04.1 versions Rory O'Farrell > > > Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg: > > 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> is anyone else having this issue? > >> > > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always > > cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists, > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > > > > So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched over > > (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I > > don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of > > them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at least. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnny Rosenberg > > > > > > > >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 > >> > >> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. > >> > >> kind regards > >> > >> Matthias Seidel > >> > >> > >> > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
Which OS do you use? I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1 kind regards Matthias Seidel Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg: > 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > >> Hello, >> >> is anyone else having this issue? >> > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always > cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists, > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > > So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched over > (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I > don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of > them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at least. > > > Kind regards > > Johnny Rosenberg > > > >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 >> >> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. >> >> kind regards >> >> Matthias Seidel >> >> >> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 07:54:56 + Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg > wrote: > > > I mentioned it here a few years ago but > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists, > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > > > > Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by > you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide > sample documents? > > FC > -- > During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary > act > - George Orwell Does it work when Windows is started in "Safe Mode"? If so, the problem is caused by crosstalk from some application/driver that runs in Windows Normal mode. On my infrequently used Windows machine (XP) it works correctly. -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > I mentioned it here a few years ago but > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists, > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. > Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide sample documents? FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell
Re: AOO crashes on applying styles
2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel : > Hello, > > is anyone else having this issue? > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists, so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least. So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched over (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at least. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg > > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 > > It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. > > kind regards > > Matthias Seidel > > >
AOO crashes on applying styles
Hello, is anyone else having this issue? https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980 It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release. kind regards Matthias Seidel smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: styles
On 12/09/2015 09:28 AM, eile1 wrote: I have a Word document (2011 Office for Mac) that I have opened in OO and saved to the OO format (.odt). However, the styles that were in the Word document now don't seem to actually work in the OO document. If you select text or have the cursor in a paragraph, and then click a different style in the style browser, nothing happens. I also tried loading the styles from an odt template file taken from the source Word file. No difference. Do styles that were in a Word doc not work in OO? Thanks. Mac OO: Latest for Mac OS: El Capitan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org Have you checked for any direct formatting in the paragraph? One way to find out is to highlight the paragraph, right click within it, and select Delete Direct Formatting. After that, you should be able to apply a different style to the paragraph. Dan
styles
I have a Word document (2011 Office for Mac) that I have opened in OO and saved to the OO format (.odt). However, the styles that were in the Word document now don't seem to actually work in the OO document. If you select text or have the cursor in a paragraph, and then click a different style in the style browser, nothing happens. I also tried loading the styles from an odt template file taken from the source Word file. No difference. Do styles that were in a Word doc not work in OO? Thanks. Mac OO: Latest for Mac OS: El Capitan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: another basic styles question - odp
On 08-Jul-15 02:24, Julian Thomas wrote: I want to create a template similar to the default black on white, but using a font different from the Arial default. Is there an easy way to make a global font change for all text (titles, list entries, normal paragraphs)? Create a new Presentation and select From Template. Select View --> Master --> Slide master and modify the Styles Go to File --> Templates --> Save this saves it under My Templates tnx — jt - j...@jt-mj.net If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
another basic styles question - odp
I want to create a template similar to the default black on white, but using a font different from the Arial default. Is there an easy way to make a global font change for all text (titles, list entries, normal paragraphs)? tnx — jt - j...@jt-mj.net If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Styles
Thank you, Dennis. I'm glad someone understood my question. I was beginning to doubt my English skills, even though it is my native language... but, then, I suppose it must be a second language for some of the responders. Dale Erwin On 7/2/2015 7:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Dale Erwin asks whether updated templates will automatically update the template-defined styles in a document previously created with that template. The short answer is "no." Although the file name of a template used to create a document can be carried in the document metadata, not all implementations seem to produce it. Also, the template with that file name might not be locatable when the document is opened on a different computer. If the template file has been retained, it will appear in the "Template:" entry row of the File > Properties ... > General dialog-box tab. There is a Load Styles ... option on the "Styles and Formatting" dialog though (under the rightmost button pull-down in the dialog toolbar), and it will load styles from a document file including from a template. Experiment with that. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dale Erwin [mailto:dale.er...@casaerwin.org] Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 15:10 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Styles [ ... ] So my question is: After I do this, will documents created on this template before the template change be automatically updated to reflect the changes in these modified styles? Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Styles
Dale Erwin asks whether updated templates will automatically update the template-defined styles in a document previously created with that template. The short answer is "no." Although the file name of a template used to create a document can be carried in the document metadata, not all implementations seem to produce it. Also, the template with that file name might not be locatable when the document is opened on a different computer. If the template file has been retained, it will appear in the "Template:" entry row of the File > Properties ... > General dialog-box tab. There is a Load Styles ... option on the "Styles and Formatting" dialog though (under the rightmost button pull-down in the dialog toolbar), and it will load styles from a document file including from a template. Experiment with that. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dale Erwin [mailto:dale.er...@casaerwin.org] Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 15:10 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Styles [ ... ] So my question is: After I do this, will documents created on this template before the template change be automatically updated to reflect the changes in these modified styles? Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Styles
On 07/02/2015 10:10 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: > styles I need to modify and then save it again which overwrites the > original template of the same name. It overwrites the original template, only if it is saved to the same folder as the original template. Even then, it might not overwrite it, but silently rename the file. (I haven't yet determined if it is AOo, EO, LibO, OOo OO4K, or OOL that silent renames the template.) > template before the template change be automatically updated to reflect > the changes in these modified styles? If the template was overwritten, then, when you next open a document that uses that template, you'll see a message along the lines of "The Template Has been updated since this document was last opened. Do you want to update the Styles?" Clicking "Yes", updates the styles in the document. Clicking "No", or "Cancel" (I've forgotten which program has what) will not update the styles. At least one of the list (AOo, EO, LibO, OOo, OO4K, OOL) removes the name of the template. (I haven't closely examined which one of them does that.) jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Styles
Dale Erwin wrote: > All this talk about styles has reminded me of a question I have had for > some time. > > I have found no way to directly edit a template. All I've been able to > do is open a new document based on that new template, then without > naming the document or adding content to the document, I modify the > styles I need to modify and then save it again which overwrites the > original template of the same name. > > So my question is: After I do this, will documents created on this > template before the template change be automatically updated to reflect > the changes in these modified styles? > > Dale Erwin Dale; Open AOO and click File->Templates->Organize In the dialog box that opens Double click My Templates. In the expanded list click the template you want to edit. Click the Commands button on the far right of the dialog box. Select Edit. The template will open and you can make any changes you need. When done click save and it will be saved in the My Templates area ready for use. Regards Keith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Styles
Hi Dale, Dale Erwin schrieb: All this talk about styles has reminded me of a question I have had for some time. I have found no way to directly edit a template. All I've been able to do is open a new document based on that new template, then without naming the document or adding content to the document, I modify the styles I need to modify and then save it again which overwrites the original template of the same name. So my question is: After I do this, will documents created on this template before the template change be automatically updated to reflect the changes in these modified styles? Have a look at File > Templates. There you have items to save and to edit templates. The item Organizer gives you a tool to move and copy (hold Ctrl-key pressed) styles between templates and documents. Look under "Command" in the Organizer to get further features, especially setting a template as default template. The other place to handle templates is in File > New > Templates and Documents. When you have selected a template, then the Edit button is enabled and you can edit the template itself. On Windows you get this "Edit" too, when you use the Windows explorer and right click on the file of the template. You get a lot of options. One of them is a bold NEW. That is the default action for double click and that generates a document based on this template. But there is another item OPEN. And that will open the template itself for editing. Whether a document reacts on changes in the template depends on the fact, whether the document has stored the information about its template. For a first hint open the document and look in File > Properties. On tab General the last line Template should have the name of the template. If that line is empty, the document has lost the information from which template is was generated or it was generated without a specific template. For more details you need to look into the source of the document. You can open it using an unpacker like 7-Zip. You will see a file meta.xml. It contains the information about the template. The information is in the node meta:template. Both the xlink:title and the xlink:href have to be correct. So if you change a title of a template or save a template in a different folder, then the document will not find its template. If your problem is mostly about text documents, then you can try the extension "Template Changer" to assign a different template to a document. http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/template-changer If the document has a correct template information and the template has changed, then the document will ask you to update its styles on opening. If the template is not available when you open the document, then you will be ask, whether you want to detach the document from the template. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Styles
All this talk about styles has reminded me of a question I have had for some time. I have found no way to directly edit a template. All I've been able to do is open a new document based on that new template, then without naming the document or adding content to the document, I modify the styles I need to modify and then save it again which overwrites the original template of the same name. So my question is: After I do this, will documents created on this template before the template change be automatically updated to reflect the changes in these modified styles? Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OO Styles - trying to get up to speed!
I have a template using styles for Impress for white text on a black background, with the font face and sizes of my choice. I added a hyperlink and had to manually change the color so that it would show up on the black background. How do I define a style for this? tnx jt - j...@jt-mj.net A bus station is where the the bus stops. A train station is where the trains stop. On my desk I have a workstation ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OO Styles - trying to get up to speed!
> On Jun 27, 2015, at 05:45, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > > Create a template that looks like you want as a starting point whenever you > open the application (Impress in your case). Make sure all the styles you > need are there, otherwise create them. > Save the template. An easy way to do that is Shift+F11. > Now (I'm doing this in Calc, I think the procedure is the same for > Impress): File → Template → Organise… → Double click ”My templates” → Right > click the template you want to use as the default template → Define as > default template → Close. > I think there are other ways to do it as well. thanks for the excellent help. I'm off and running [well, maybe trotting?]! — jt - j...@jt-mj.net A computer with COBOL and FORTRAN is like a piece of chocolate cake with ketchup and mustard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OO Styles - trying to get up to speed!
2015-06-27 4:22 GMT+02:00 Julian Thomas : > > > On Jun 26, 2015, at 00:58, Dale Erwin wrote: > > > > You can also create a template containing any special collection of > styles you wish. Then, each time you create a document from that template > it will have those styles assigned to it. If you do not use a template to > create a new document, then that new document will only have access to the > system styles. Any styles you create in one document will not be available > in another document unless it is done by way of a template. > > As of yet, I don't seem to know how to associate a style with a template. > When you save as a template (Shift+F11), all your styles are saved with it. So first modify or create your styles, then save as template. The template will also include all your contents, so if you want to create a new template from an existing document, you need to remove everything that you don't want in your template. Just don't forget to undo or quit without saving, otherwise you will lose your contents… > > > > To assign a particular style to a page, give that page the focus, go to > the Format menu and select Styles and Formatting. Usually this opens a > dialog with Paragraph styles selected, but just click on Page Styles at the > top of the box and then double click the style you wish to assign. > > Again, not clear how I build a library of styles. > > I created an impress file today, and modified the style to change > background & foreground color, and fontface/size. That worked nicely for me > - thanks. How do I make this a default for impress, or have this and one > or a few others as options for a new impress file? > Create a template that looks like you want as a starting point whenever you open the application (Impress in your case). Make sure all the styles you need are there, otherwise create them. Save the template. An easy way to do that is Shift+F11. Now (I'm doing this in Calc, I think the procedure is the same for Impress): File → Template → Organise… → Double click ”My templates” → Right click the template you want to use as the default template → Define as default template → Close. I think there are other ways to do it as well. > > I'm used to styles in the context of CSS for websites, where a style file > is referenced explicitly in the page file header. That model doesn't seem > to fit well here. > > — > jt - j...@jt-mj.net > > Stupidity is NOT a survival trait. > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
OO Styles - trying to get up to speed!
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 00:58, Dale Erwin wrote: > > You can also create a template containing any special collection of styles > you wish. Then, each time you create a document from that template it will > have those styles assigned to it. If you do not use a template to create a > new document, then that new document will only have access to the system > styles. Any styles you create in one document will not be available in > another document unless it is done by way of a template. As of yet, I don't seem to know how to associate a style with a template. > > To assign a particular style to a page, give that page the focus, go to the > Format menu and select Styles and Formatting. Usually this opens a dialog > with Paragraph styles selected, but just click on Page Styles at the top of > the box and then double click the style you wish to assign. Again, not clear how I build a library of styles. I created an impress file today, and modified the style to change background & foreground color, and fontface/size. That worked nicely for me - thanks. How do I make this a default for impress, or have this and one or a few others as options for a new impress file? I'm used to styles in the context of CSS for websites, where a style file is referenced explicitly in the page file header. That model doesn't seem to fit well here. — jt - j...@jt-mj.net Stupidity is NOT a survival trait. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Use of styles [was: Editor Wars!]
The TL;DR: OpenOffice and the OpenDocument Format *only* have styles and the styles work in hierarchies where style features are inherited and operate over different hierarchy classes of styles as well. So-called "local formatting" is accomplished by imposing styles. - Dennis BACKGROUND When you set one of the formatting buttons on a selection of one or more characters, a style will be applied at least on a text-span element that is introduced for enacting the style dependency. Individual characters don't have format or styles directly. Those are inherited from some sort of (nested) text container that the characters are within. What happens in this case is that OpenOffice makes up an "automatic" style to reflect the settings being imposed, and that will usually inherit from some sort of built-in or default style, and it may intersect with styles on a higher container, such as character-format styles set on the paragraph. That is how it is difficult to have something like WordPerfect's "Show" or "Reveal" functionality work with ODF-based documents. It is also a source of problems when later you attempt to reverse some aspect of what was set (e.g., a font choice) and it doesn't seem to work because of some sort of style collision that is not apparent. FOR USERS It is possible to remain ignorant of styles in working with OpenOffice Writer, so long as one is doing simple things. OpenOffice is designed to permit that, partly to make it easier to deal with Microsoft Office documents, at least superficially. At some point, it may be necessary to understand more about styles, especially when working with documents being worked on collaboratively with others. There are templates to consider and the styles that go with the format being preserved as part of the collaborative work. On the other hand, for individual effort, I have no desire to tell someone that they should change their way of working, unless they are trying to force something in a way that actually can't work in OpenOffice. The idea is to not have the product be in the way of the user. At the same time, not all naïve attempts will succeed. I think it is best, in that case, to offer the user something that is the least that can possibly work in their situation without imposing any more learning-curve on them than necessary to match their ambitions for their documents. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 09:26 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Use of styles [was: Editor Wars!] At 11:26 26/06/2015 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote: >One thing that I *do not* do is use the styles list across the top >of Apache OO. (*B*,/I, /_U_) I know that you know what you mean, but you will confuse the masses by saying this. Bold, italic, and underline can indeed be aspects of both character styles and paragraph styles. But the buttons in the Formatting toolbar (along with keyboard shortcuts Ctrl+B and so on, as well as right-click | Style > and Format | Character...) apply local character formatting and are not related to styles. So it may be confusing to call the array of buttons a "styles list". [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Use of styles [was: Editor Wars!]
At 11:26 26/06/2015 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote: One thing that I *do not* do is use the styles list across the top of Apache OO. (*B*,/I, /_U_) I know that you know what you mean, but you will confuse the masses by saying this. Bold, italic, and underline can indeed be aspects of both character styles and paragraph styles. But the buttons in the Formatting toolbar (along with keyboard shortcuts Ctrl+B and so on, as well as right-click | Style > and Format | Character...) apply local character formatting and are not related to styles. So it may be confusing to call the array of buttons a "styles list". Your point is that - very sensibly - you eschew the use of those buttons precisely because they do not relate to styles but create local formatting; instead you use styles for these purposes. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Styles mess
2014-10-26 19:29 GMT+01:00 Regina Henschel : > Hi Johnny, > > Johnny Rosenberg schrieb: > [..] > >> >> If someone wants the file for testing, let me know. I guess I can't attach >> it to this message anyway, so I won't even try that. >> > > Yes, please sent me the file. > I sent it to you off list. Thanks for looking. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ > > Kind regards > Regina > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: Styles mess
Hi Johnny, Johnny Rosenberg schrieb: [..] If someone wants the file for testing, let me know. I guess I can't attach it to this message anyway, so I won't even try that. Yes, please sent me the file. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Styles mess
This thing happens in both Apache OpenOffice Calc and LibreOffice Calc which makes me thing I did something wrong, but after almost a year of debugging and trying some different approaches, I still have no idea what is going on. I have a few styles that I made, but one of them keeps messing around. There are three cell that use this style, but only if the value is negative. When the value is positive, the numbers are supposed to be displayed in some custom red colour and when it's negative the colour is supposed to be some custom green (indicating that I am below budget, which in this case is good, hence green…). I use one style for each of these conditions, since I don't, and don't want to, use the standard [RED] and [GREEN] colours. The ”below zero” style is called ”UnderTot” and the ”Above zero” one is called ”ÖverTot”. The one that is messing with me is ”UnderTot”. I use conditional formatting for this. Here are the number formats: ÖverTot: "+"# ##0,00" "[$kr-41D] Example: +2 345,67 kr Colour: Custom red. UnderTot: # ##0,00" "[$kr-41D] Example: -2 345,67 kr Colour: Custom green. Steps: Make sure at least one of the three cells has a negative value. Save the file. Close the file. Open the file. If it still looks right, enter a new value in one of the three cells. Now the cell format of the ”UnderTot” style changed. Last time I tested, the format code was changed to ”Standard”, but different things happens different times. All the other styles works perfectly. The ”UnderTot” style is linked to a stylle called ”Under”, but ”Under” works perfectly. It's not just the format of the cells that are changed, I verified that the style actually changed itself. I just want some ideas what could have been wrong. I am sure I did something wrong but I lack more ideas what to look for, so any kind of idea is welcome. Thanks in advance! If someone wants the file for testing, let me know. I guess I can't attach it to this message anyway, so I won't even try that. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
Re: unique uses of frame styles
At 18:12 17/10/2013 -0400, David L Babcock wrote: On 10/17/2013 12:53 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 12:18 17/10/2013 -0400, David L Babcock wrote: I needed a doc to generate pages for a small 5-hole notebook/binder. I fit 2 pages per sheet but then needed outlines for the cutting out. The outline graphic also had "dots" to mark where the 10 holes needed to be punched. Obviously to avoid two-pass printing, had to use frames and/or a background image. It was hell. But I got it working. Long enough ago that particulars escape me. I do remember that the two little "pages" were side by side, that "newspaper columns" were used. And that adding text would properly move lines to the second little page, But NOT to the following real (8.5x11) page. Sorry don't remember if the final product used frames. (I think it did, and that's what broke line-moving). Not asking for solutions, ... If you do want to recreate this (or if others do so), your use of frames does not need to "break line-moving". Using *linked* frames, you can preserve the natural flow of text from frame to frame - and from a frame on one page to a frame on another. See "frames;linking" in the help text. Ahh! Thank you. It occurs to me that newspaper columns, and side-by-side, were not needed, if I gotten the frames right. No? Would have been much less picky-picky formatting. Well, yes: the two pages on each sheet could also be linked frames, with many frames linked in a chain across several pages. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unique uses of frame styles
On 10/17/2013 12:53 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 12:18 17/10/2013 -0400, David L Babcock wrote: I needed a doc to generate pages for a small 5-hole notebook/binder. I fit 2 pages per sheet but then needed outlines for the cutting out. The outline graphic also had "dots" to mark where the 10 holes needed to be punched. Obviously to avoid two-pass printing, had to use frames and/or a background image. It was hell. But I got it working. Long enough ago that particulars escape me. I do remember that the two little "pages" were side by side, that "newspaper columns" were used. And that adding text would properly move lines to the second little page, But NOT to the following real (8.5x11) page. Sorry don't remember if the final product used frames. (I think it did, and that's what broke line-moving). Not asking for solutions, ... If you do want to recreate this (or if others do so), your use of frames does not need to "break line-moving". Using *linked* frames, you can preserve the natural flow of text from frame to frame - and from a frame on one page to a frame on another. See "frames;linking" in the help text. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org Ahh! Thank you. It occurs to me that newspaper columns, and side-by-side, were not needed, if I gotten the frames right. No? Would have been much less picky-picky formatting. Ol' Bab - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unique uses of frame styles
At 12:18 17/10/2013 -0400, David L Babcock wrote: I needed a doc to generate pages for a small 5-hole notebook/binder. I fit 2 pages per sheet but then needed outlines for the cutting out. The outline graphic also had "dots" to mark where the 10 holes needed to be punched. Obviously to avoid two-pass printing, had to use frames and/or a background image. It was hell. But I got it working. Long enough ago that particulars escape me. I do remember that the two little "pages" were side by side, that "newspaper columns" were used. And that adding text would properly move lines to the second little page, But NOT to the following real (8.5x11) page. Sorry don't remember if the final product used frames. (I think it did, and that's what broke line-moving). Not asking for solutions, ... If you do want to recreate this (or if others do so), your use of frames does not need to "break line-moving". Using *linked* frames, you can preserve the natural flow of text from frame to frame - and from a frame on one page to a frame on another. See "frames;linking" in the help text. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unique uses of frame styles
I needed a doc to generate pages for a small 5-hole notebook/binder. I fit 2 pages per sheet but then needed outlines for the cutting out. The outline graphic also had "dots" to mark where the 10 holes needed to be punched. Obviously to avoid two-pass printing, had to use frames and/or a background image. It was hell. But I got it working. Long enough ago that particulars escape me. I do remember that the two little "pages" were side by side, that "newspaper columns" were used. And that adding text would properly move lines to the second little page, But NOT to the following real (8.5x11) page. Sorry don't remember if the final product used frames. (I think it did, and that's what broke line-moving). Not asking for solutions, just thought you might find this a unique use. Afternote: I used 2-pass printing for this for years, and THAT was hell! Ol' Bab On 10/10/2013 3:04 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: Hi: I'm in the middle of writing a book about styles and templates in LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I'm currently trying to flesh out the chapter on frame styles a bit. Does anyone have any original ideas about how to take advantage of frame styles? I've already written about watermarks and sideheads, but if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about, I'll credit you when the book is published. Thanks, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unique uses of frame styles
Thanks, but since I *am* Bruce Byfield, I doubt it can teach me anything new. On Saturday 12 October 2013 11:53:27 PM Martin Groenescheij wrote: > Have a look at the article http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7733 > writen by Bruce Byfield > > On 11/10/2013 6:04 AM, Bruce Byfield wrote: > > Hi: > > > > I'm in the middle of writing a book about styles and templates in > > LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I'm currently trying to flesh out the > > chapter on frame styles a bit. > > > > Does anyone have any original ideas about how to take advantage of frame > > styles? I've already written about watermarks and sideheads, but if you > > can suggest a use that I haven't heard about, I'll credit you when the > > book is published. > > > > Thanks, > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/
Re: unique uses of frame styles
Have a look at the article http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7733 writen by Bruce Byfield On 11/10/2013 6:04 AM, Bruce Byfield wrote: Hi: I'm in the middle of writing a book about styles and templates in LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I'm currently trying to flesh out the chapter on frame styles a bit. Does anyone have any original ideas about how to take advantage of frame styles? I've already written about watermarks and sideheads, but if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about, I'll credit you when the book is published. Thanks, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unique uses of frame styles
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:34:24 -0700 Bruce Byfield wrote: > On Saturday 12 October 2013 03:33:54 PM Regina Henschel wrote: > > > What is "sideheads"? > > Sideheads are headings placed in a small column by the left margin. This > positioning allows for very easy scanning, but naturally means that the text > takes up more space. You see sideheads sometimes in technical documents. > > With some adjustments, you can create sideheads using the Marginalia frame > style. > > > > > I do not really understand, what you are looking for. The predifined > > frame styles have special properties, which are geared to special kind > > of frames. They are automatically choosen in most cases, when you insert > > an object. But the usage is not different from other kind of styles. You > > can use them to distinguish kind of frames and to easily change a style > > property of a class of frames. > > I am looking for ways to adapt the pre-defined frame styles, or new frame > styles that others might have developed for specific purposes. Sideheads are > one example of what I mean, and I'm hoping there might be others. > > > > "if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about" - how can I know > > what you have heard about? > > You can't know -- but then you don't have to. :-). I'll know what suggestions > are new to me. > > > > Is it possible to get the already finished > > part for reading? > > > > The draft is very rough right now, and not fit for others to read. But I will > be completing the work in the next few months, and posting more polished > versions on the ODF Authors site. > > I will post to this list (among others) when chapters are uploaded to ODF > Authors. > > > -- > Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) > blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com > website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/ In this thread on the Forum Hanya gives a macro to turn Footnotes into Sidenotes and contrariwise http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=43956 -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unique uses of frame styles
On Saturday 12 October 2013 03:33:54 PM Regina Henschel wrote: > What is "sideheads"? Sideheads are headings placed in a small column by the left margin. This positioning allows for very easy scanning, but naturally means that the text takes up more space. You see sideheads sometimes in technical documents. With some adjustments, you can create sideheads using the Marginalia frame style. > > I do not really understand, what you are looking for. The predifined > frame styles have special properties, which are geared to special kind > of frames. They are automatically choosen in most cases, when you insert > an object. But the usage is not different from other kind of styles. You > can use them to distinguish kind of frames and to easily change a style > property of a class of frames. I am looking for ways to adapt the pre-defined frame styles, or new frame styles that others might have developed for specific purposes. Sideheads are one example of what I mean, and I'm hoping there might be others. > "if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about" - how can I know > what you have heard about? You can't know -- but then you don't have to. :-). I'll know what suggestions are new to me. > Is it possible to get the already finished > part for reading? > The draft is very rough right now, and not fit for others to read. But I will be completing the work in the next few months, and posting more polished versions on the ODF Authors site. I will post to this list (among others) when chapters are uploaded to ODF Authors. -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/
Re: unique uses of frame styles
Hi Bruce, Bruce Byfield schrieb: Hi: I'm in the middle of writing a book about styles and templates in LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I'm currently trying to flesh out the chapter on frame styles a bit. Does anyone have any original ideas about how to take advantage of frame styles? I've already written about watermarks and sideheads, but if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about, I'll credit you when the book is published. What is "sideheads"? I do not really understand, what you are looking for. The predifined frame styles have special properties, which are geared to special kind of frames. They are automatically choosen in most cases, when you insert an object. But the usage is not different from other kind of styles. You can use them to distinguish kind of frames and to easily change a style property of a class of frames. "if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about" - how can I know what you have heard about? Is it possible to get the already finished part for reading? Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: unique uses of frame styles
Hi Bruce and apologies to everyone else, This reply is nothing, I am afraid, to do with OO. V interested in your surname. Were your Byfields from England and from the area of Wisbech in particular? Have many contacts in Canada, USA and OZ descended from the same family. My direct Email address is :- ian.byfi...@hotmail.co.uk Many thanks and apologies to all others Ian -Original Message- From: Bruce Byfield Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:04 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: unique uses of frame styles Hi: I'm in the middle of writing a book about styles and templates in LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I'm currently trying to flesh out the chapter on frame styles a bit. Does anyone have any original ideas about how to take advantage of frame styles? I've already written about watermarks and sideheads, but if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about, I'll credit you when the book is published. Thanks, -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
unique uses of frame styles
Hi: I'm in the middle of writing a book about styles and templates in LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I'm currently trying to flesh out the chapter on frame styles a bit. Does anyone have any original ideas about how to take advantage of frame styles? I've already written about watermarks and sideheads, but if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about, I'll credit you when the book is published. Thanks, -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/
Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Hi Janis, Janis Langins schrieb: Thanks to all for the advice regarding my query. I shall try to see if I can successfully apply it and maybe with my current skills I should not be so ambitious. Re Regina's request for the URL: I cannot remember what iit s but this one (http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/11/0200WG33-WriterGuideOOo.pdf) I got from the Open Office site and it seems to be pretty much the same as the one I am using with slight differences in pagination. In the URL above it is ch. 7, page 233 (NOT ch. 7, p. 259) but everything else, including the text is the same. Of course, in theory it is for the earlier 3.4 version, not for version 4 of Open Office, which is the one I am using. JL That is not the right part for outline numbering. That is about list numbering. The whole thing is not suitable for lectures. Look for "Students' Guide for OpenOffice Writer", http://www.fb4.fh-frankfurt.de/tips/openoffice/dokumentation/ooo_for_students.pdf Or other guides which are written for students, who will write a paper. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Thanks to all for the advice regarding my query. I shall try to see if I can successfully apply it and maybe with my current skills I should not be so ambitious. Re Regina's request for the URL: I cannot remember what iit s but this one (http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/11/0200WG33-WriterGuideOOo.pdf) I got from the Open Office site and it seems to be pretty much the same as the one I am using with slight differences in pagination. In the URL above it is ch. 7, page 233 (NOT ch. 7, p. 259) but everything else, including the text is the same. Of course, in theory it is for the earlier 3.4 version, not for version 4 of Open Office, which is the one I am using. JL At 01:03 PM 23/08/2013, you wrote: Hi Janis, Janis Langins schrieb: I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for lectures. There exists two ways, the default one (easy) and the explicit one (advanced skills). Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open Office Can you please post the URL? There are several tutorials around and some do not apply to AOO4.0 and some give bad advise. , I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information please? If you are not an expert in styles, I suggest start with the default outline numbering. For that you do not need any numbering style. You find all needed settings in Tools > Outline numbering. Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous documents with different styles and configure them to the new style with consistent renumbering. Do it the other way round. Make a document template with your new settings. Then copy the old stuff and paste it "as unformatted text". Then apply the new styles as needed. There is no information in the manual on this. Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office does not seem to have this. True? False? The numbering will be correct, if you remove all hard formatting, especially all hard numbering which have made via the buttons. If the paragraph have the correct paragraph style assigned, the outline numbering will be correct automatically. Therefore my advise to paste "as unformatted text". That avoids a lot of trouble. Any reference to solutions would be appreciated. Janis Langins My own texts are in German. But you can ask, if using Tools > Outline numbering does not work for you. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:57:21 +0100 Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:33:03 -0400 > Janis Langins wrote: > > > I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for > > lectures. Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open > > Office, I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I > > cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information > > please? > > Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they > > work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous > > documents with different styles and configure them to the new style > > with consistent renumbering. There is no information in the manual on this. > > Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode > > that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the > > heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office > > does not seem to have this. True? False? > > Any reference to solutions would be appreciated. > > Janis Langins > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > I don't do paragraph numbering so am not much help. However this tutorial > might get be of help > http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=58558 > > I have a vague memory that there is (was?) an extension that applied a new > template to an existing document, but cannot find it in the extensions > repository. If I do, I'll post back. > > -- > Rory O'Farrell > > I've located the Templat Changer extension. It is at http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/template-changer Whether it works on AOO 4.0, and how it is used, I cannot say -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Hi Janis, Janis Langins schrieb: I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for lectures. There exists two ways, the default one (easy) and the explicit one (advanced skills). Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open Office Can you please post the URL? There are several tutorials around and some do not apply to AOO4.0 and some give bad advise. , I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information please? If you are not an expert in styles, I suggest start with the default outline numbering. For that you do not need any numbering style. You find all needed settings in Tools > Outline numbering. Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous documents with different styles and configure them to the new style with consistent renumbering. Do it the other way round. Make a document template with your new settings. Then copy the old stuff and paste it "as unformatted text". Then apply the new styles as needed. There is no information in the manual on this. Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office does not seem to have this. True? False? The numbering will be correct, if you remove all hard formatting, especially all hard numbering which have made via the buttons. If the paragraph have the correct paragraph style assigned, the outline numbering will be correct automatically. Therefore my advise to paste "as unformatted text". That avoids a lot of trouble. Any reference to solutions would be appreciated. Janis Langins My own texts are in German. But you can ask, if using Tools > Outline numbering does not work for you. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:33:03 -0400 Janis Langins wrote: > I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for > lectures. Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open > Office, I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I > cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information please? > Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they > work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous > documents with different styles and configure them to the new style > with consistent renumbering. There is no information in the manual on this. > Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode > that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the > heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office > does not seem to have this. True? False? > Any reference to solutions would be appreciated. > Janis Langins > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > I don't do paragraph numbering so am not much help. However this tutorial might get be of help http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=58558 I have a vague memory that there is (was?) an extension that applied a new template to an existing document, but cannot find it in the extensions repository. If I do, I'll post back. -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for lectures. Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open Office, I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information please? Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous documents with different styles and configure them to the new style with consistent renumbering. There is no information in the manual on this. Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office does not seem to have this. True? False? Any reference to solutions would be appreciated. Janis Langins - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
