Re: [users] Opening .ics files

[Adrian Try]

3.  Thunderbird is just what I thought it was, a mail and news interface
program.  No calendering capabilities, unlike Outlook or Outlook Express.


Well, not by default. But you can add a calendar to Thunderbird.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/

"Lightning is a calendar extension for Mozilla Thunderbird. It offers  
calendaring features directly in the Thunderbird User Interface. Further  
integration features, such as e-mail invites or addressbook integration  
are planned for future releases."


Adrian


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Re: [users] For those who like FREE software

[Jo]

Terence W C Warby wrote:


James McKenzie wrote:

EJones wrote:
  

Why waste money on Norton Anti-Virus or McAfee?
AVG is a great FREE substitute.  Check it out at:
http://www.grisoft.com/doc/289/lng/us/tpl/tpl01

  

AVG is no longer available for free.

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

_Download free version_

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/5390/lng/us/tpl/v5#avg-free

avg71free_405a791.exe 



I downloaded and installed it yesterday for a friend. I guess it's only 
legal for home use, but that will do for a lot of computer systems.


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Re: [users] Opening .ics files

[James McKenzie]

Tapas Ray wrote:
> Many thanks for your response. I had installed Sunbird but uninstalled
> it due to certain problems. Will try with Thunderbird.
>
You know, it might be good for me to go to the Mozilla web site before
deciding to put my foot in my mouth in a reply.  Here is what I found:

1.  Sunbird is still under development and has a long way to go until it
is a 1.0 release.
2.  SeaMonkey is an extension of the Mozilla Application Suite, which is
an all-in-one Internet program.
3.  Thunderbird is just what I thought it was, a mail and news interface
program.  No calendering capabilities, unlike Outlook or Outlook Express.

You might want to try and use SeaMonkey and look inside for a
calendering program.

James McKenzie

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Re: [users] For those who like FREE software

[James McKenzie]

James McKenzie wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>   
>> James McKenzie wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> EJones wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
 In place of Mozilla, Netscape, M$IE, M$Outlook, etc. try the
 Mozilla replacement, SeaMonkey at:
 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/seamonkey1.0/

   
   
 
>>> I prefer Firefox and it too is free.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Seamonkey is the complete suite.  Firefox is only a browser.
>>   
>> 
> Then I don't think I need to replace Thunderbird either.  However, there
> are alternates for the Mac, such as Camino for the web browser.
>
> As you can see, there are several very good free replacements for what
> came on your computer.   And this is a very informative list of items.
>   
Update:

I just looked up SeaMonkey as I was looking for Sunbird.  It is the old
Mozilla Application Suite with a new name. 
This might be the 'ticket' for folks looking for the all-in-one Internet
suite to replace Internet Exploder and Lookout (this is from practical
experience having to attempt to recover a mailbox on LookOut and the
various vanishing IE windows and exploits for both.)

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Re: [users] Opening .ics files

[James McKenzie]

Tapas Ray wrote:
> Many thanks for your response. I had installed Sunbird but uninstalled
> it due to certain problems. Will try with Thunderbird.
Tapas:

I don't think that Thunderbird has built-in calendering.  At least, I
could not find it on my copy, which is for Mac OS X.

James McKenzie


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Re: [users] Opening .ics files

[Tapas Ray]

Many thanks for your response. I had installed Sunbird but uninstalled it 
due to certain problems. Will try with Thunderbird.


Thanks again,

Tapas


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Tapas wrote"

>I googled ".ics" and came to learn that it's a calendar file for Outlook.

It is a standard calendar file format.  You can open them with SunBird,
the calender extension to Firefox, or the calendar extension to
ThunderBird.  [There is a lot more software that recognizes/uses that
file format.]



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On Thu September 7 2006 19:34, + Tapas Ray wrote:

 [ MODERATED ] ***
I am using OpenOffice 2.0 in a Windows XP environment. I do not have MS
Office. I get alerts for the day's events from Google Calendar as .ics
files, which do not seem to open in OpenOffice. I googled ".ics" and came
to learn that it's a calendar file for Outlook. Is there any way that I 
can

open these files without going to the trouble and expense of getting MS
Office?

I would really appreciate your help with this.





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Re: [users] Re: Distributions question - Is it legal...

[Howard Coles Jr.]

On Saturday 09 September 2006 8:55 pm, Matt Needles wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 10:23 -0700, Richard Detwiler wrote:
> > --- √Mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 8/31/2006 12:42 PM Helen Schroeder wrote :
> > > > I won a copy disc of this program on eBay. Is that
> > >
> > > authorized distribution? (Not incidentally, if
> > > integrity is important to you and your program,
> > >
> > > > they charged me $8 to ship this little CD copy for
> > >
> > > which they actually paid 67 cents to ship.)
> > >
> > > Give them a POOR rating in their E-bay feedback.

> > Hmmm  why give them a POOR rating? Because the
> > shipping cost was 67 cents? Or for what reason?
>
> For overcharging for shipping. Ebay has a policy against that.  If it's
> shipping, fine, otherwise charge the $7+ for the product.

Forgive the double posting, but I hit the wrong button too quickly:

the other thing to think about to balance this conversation is this:  It costs 
more to ship something that what you pay the postal service.  The package to 
put the CD in so that it doesn't get scratched, the time to go to the Post 
office, etc.  All this adds up in time and investment.  So, eight dollars may 
seem like an excessive amount when all you look at is the postage cost, can 
actually become a bargain when you consider all the other costs.

What this all means is that it may seem that you got the "CD for free but pay 
way too much for shipping" treatment, when in fact you did get a bargain.
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Re: [users] Use of toolbars in OO - Callout

[James McKenzie]

Walter A. March wrote:
>
> Ludo, you are puzzled because the Customize dialog doesn't actually
> allow you to turn a toolbar off or on.
>
> And it is confusing because the Customize dialog seems to indicate
> that there is a Circles and Ovals toolbar.
>
> Interestingly, there is also a Callouts toolbar. If you select another
> toolbar, click the Add button in the Customize dialog and then choose
> Options as your category, you can find Callouts and then add the
> Callouts fly out to any toolbar (including its self which is kinda
> neat) BUT you can't find Circles and Ovals to do the same thing...
> which I would think you would be able to.
>
> Any thoughts out there? I'm on OOo 2.0.3 on Windows 2000. The OP also
> has 2.0.3.
I just tried something interesting.  I opened Impress (presentations)
and this toolbar is there.  However, the callouts toolbar IS NOT.  It is
an essential part of creating presentations using MS Power Point that we
have this functionality and I question why this was not brought over
into Impress and/or Draw.  I will continue to try and find the Callout
toolbar.

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Re: [users] Re: Distributions question - Is it legal...

[Howard Coles Jr.]

On Saturday 09 September 2006 8:55 pm, Matt Needles wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 10:23 -0700, Richard Detwiler wrote:
> > --- √Mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 8/31/2006 12:42 PM Helen Schroeder wrote :
> > > > I won a copy disc of this program on eBay. Is that
> > >
> > > authorized distribution? (Not incidentally, if
> > > integrity is important to you and your program,
> > >
> > > > they charged me $8 to ship this little CD copy for
> > >
> > > which they actually paid 67 cents to ship.)
> > >
> > > Give them a POOR rating in their E-bay feedback.

> >
> > Hmmm  why give them a POOR rating? Because the
> > shipping cost was 67 cents? Or for what reason?
>
> For overcharging for shipping. Ebay has a policy against that.  If it's
> shipping, fine, otherwise charge the $7+ for the product.

Its the old, "You can have the car for free if you buy the tires, but the 
tires cost $30,000.00" trick.  

You get the product for free, but you pay what the product would have cost, 
just to get it shipped or delivered.

Unless, of course, they shipped the CD over night second day air, or something 
like that.  Then it could very well have cost 8 dollars.

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Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO

[James McKenzie]

Walter A. March wrote:
> Ludo, you are puzzled because the Customize dialog doesn't actually
> allow you to turn a toolbar off or on.
>
> And it is confusing because the Customize dialog seems to indicate
> that there is a Circles and Ovals toolbar.
>
> Interestingly, there is also a Callouts toolbar. If you select another
> toolbar, click the Add button in the Customize dialog and then choose
> Options as your category, you can find Callouts and then add the
> Callouts fly out to any toolbar (including its self which is kinda
> neat) BUT you can't find Circles and Ovals to do the same thing...
> which I would think you would be able to.
>
> Any thoughts out there? I'm on OOo 2.0.3 on Windows 2000. The OP also
> has 2.0.3.
I've opened issue 69424 for this problem.  I've marked it for all
platforms and operating systems.

I've also marked that this does exist in 2.0.4 which is what I am
testing right now.

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Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO

[James McKenzie]

Walter A. March wrote:
>
> Ludo, you are puzzled because the Customize dialog doesn't actually
> allow you to turn a toolbar off or on.
>
> And it is confusing because the Customize dialog seems to indicate
> that there is a Circles and Ovals toolbar.
>
> Interestingly, there is also a Callouts toolbar. If you select another
> toolbar, click the Add button in the Customize dialog and then choose
> Options as your category, you can find Callouts and then add the
> Callouts fly out to any toolbar (including its self which is kinda
> neat) BUT you can't find Circles and Ovals to do the same thing...
> which I would think you would be able to.
>
> Any thoughts out there? I'm on OOo 2.0.3 on Windows 2000. The OP also
> has 2.0.3.
>
I think this needs an issue in order to be fixed.  I will open one to
see what happens.

James McKenzie

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Re: [users] Re: Distributions question - Is it legal...

[Matt Needles]

On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 10:23 -0700, Richard Detwiler wrote:
> 
> --- √Mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 8/31/2006 12:42 PM Helen Schroeder wrote :
> > > I won a copy disc of this program on eBay. Is that
> > authorized distribution? (Not incidentally, if
> > integrity is important to you and your program,
> > > they charged me $8 to ship this little CD copy for
> > which they actually paid 67 cents to ship.)
> > 
> > Give them a POOR rating in their E-bay feedback.
> > 
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> 
> Hmmm  why give them a POOR rating? Because the
> shipping cost was 67 cents? Or for what reason?
> 
For overcharging for shipping. Ebay has a policy against that.  If it's
shipping, fine, otherwise charge the $7+ for the product.

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Re: [users] Using version 2.0 of openoffice.org my problem is speech reconition

[Matt Needles]

On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 15:29 +0100, Andy Pepperdine wrote:
> On Thursday 07 September 2006 12:52, James Knott wrote:
> > What do you mean by "ally"?
> 
> It's a-(eleven)-y  and I guess it is accessibility (meaning access by the 
> disabled of various types).
> 
Yes, a'y would be more appropriate.  That pattern is a kind of "geek
speak" for certain common long words used in computer communications,
for example i18n for internationalization.  The numbers tell how many
letters were left out.  The uneducated just have to guess what the
original word was ;)

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[users] OOo Label Templates

[James Knott]

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Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO

[Walter A. March]

- Original Message - From: "CPHennessy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; "Ludo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO



On Mon August 21 2006 11:09, + Ludo wrote:

 [ MODERATED ] 
Hi,

I am using OO 2.0.3 and have questions about using toolbars in Draw:

1. The help document explains that one can add toolbars to the list 
under
"View" - "Toolbar" by selecting Customize.  When I do that on that 
pop-up

screen, e.g. the "Circles and Ovals", and click OK, that toolbar is not
added to the View list.  Any one can explain what I am doing wrong?

2.  The help document describe an "Ellipses" and a "Tools" toolbar .  
I can

not find either of them in the "Customize" screen drop-down menu.  Are
these not included in the regular installation program?  Where/how can I
add these?


As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that:
On Sat August 26 2006 01:26, Donald H Locker wrote:

Hi, Ludo.

I just tried it.  View -> Toolbars -> Customize

At the top of the pane that pops up is a drop-down list that seems to
start on Standard; it also a "Circles and Ovals" pick if that is what
you are looking for.  I don't see anything labeled "Tools" or similar.

To add an item to a toolbar, choose the toolbar to which you want to add
an item, "Picture" for instance.  Then click "Add...", hilight the
category and command on the new popup, then click "Add" on that new 
popup.


You can select another toolbar to add items to while the "Add..." popup
is up, so if you want to add a particular item to a number of toolbars,
add it to the first, select another toolbar on the first popup, and
click "Add" again.  When you have added all items you want, click
"Close" and you should be set.  You can see the menu items added to the
toolbar immediately if the toolbar is displayed.


Please reply to users@openoffice.org only.


Ludo wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
>
> I am still puzzled however.  I did find the "Circles and Ovals" entry in
> the Customize popup.  When I select that and click OK (se attached
> screenshot) the popup closes, but apparently nothing has changed, i.e.
> the toolbar is not available on my drawing, nor is it added to the list
> of possible toolbars in the View drop-down.  Any idea what I might be
> doing wrong?

Ludo, you are puzzled because the Customize dialog doesn't actually 
allow you to turn a toolbar off or on.


And it is confusing because the Customize dialog seems to indicate that 
there is a Circles and Ovals toolbar.


Interestingly, there is also a Callouts toolbar. If you select another 
toolbar, click the Add button in the Customize dialog and then choose 
Options as your category, you can find Callouts and then add the 
Callouts fly out to any toolbar (including its self which is kinda neat) 
BUT you can't find Circles and Ovals to do the same thing... which I 
would think you would be able to.


Any thoughts out there? I'm on OOo 2.0.3 on Windows 2000. The OP also 
has 2.0.3.


WalterAM

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Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO

[James McKenzie]

CPH:

I think I know what Ludo is asking for.  In Draw, if you select Tools ->
Customize, you can select the Circles and Ovals toolbar and customize
it.  However, if you select View -> Toolbars to turn on this toolbar, it
is NOT present.  Can you guide us on where to enable this toolbar?

James McKenzie


Ludo wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
>
> I am still puzzled however.  I did find the "Circles and Ovals" entry
> in the Customize popup.  When I select that and click OK (se attached
> screenshot) the popup closes, but apparently nothing has changed, i.e.
> the toolbar is not available on my drawing, nor is it added to the
> list of possible toolbars in the View drop-down.  Any idea what I
> might be doing wrong?
>
> Thanks again for the response.
>
> Ludo.
>
> - Original Message - From: "CPHennessy"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ; "Ludo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO
>
>
>> On Mon August 21 2006 11:09, + Ludo wrote:
>>>  [ MODERATED ] 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am using OO 2.0.3 and have questions about using toolbars in Draw:
>>>
>>> 1. The help document explains that one can add toolbars to the list
>>> under
>>> "View" - "Toolbar" by selecting Customize.  When I do that on that
>>> pop-up
>>> screen, e.g. the "Circles and Ovals", and click OK, that toolbar is not
>>> added to the View list.  Any one can explain what I am doing wrong?
>>>
>>> 2.  The help document describe an "Ellipses" and a "Tools" toolbar
>>> .  I can
>>> not find either of them in the "Customize" screen drop-down menu.  Are
>>> these not included in the regular installation program?  Where/how
>>> can I
>>> add these?
>>
>> As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that:
>> On Sat August 26 2006 01:26, Donald H Locker wrote:
>>> Hi, Ludo.
>>>
>>> I just tried it.  View -> Toolbars -> Customize
>>>
>>> At the top of the pane that pops up is a drop-down list that seems to
>>> start on Standard; it also a "Circles and Ovals" pick if that is what
>>> you are looking for.  I don't see anything labeled "Tools" or similar.
>>>
>>> To add an item to a toolbar, choose the toolbar to which you want to
>>> add
>>> an item, "Picture" for instance.  Then click "Add...", hilight the
>>> category and command on the new popup, then click "Add" on that new
>>> popup.
>>>
>>> You can select another toolbar to add items to while the "Add..." popup
>>> is up, so if you want to add a particular item to a number of toolbars,
>>> add it to the first, select another toolbar on the first popup, and
>>> click "Add" again.  When you have added all items you want, click
>>> "Close" and you should be set.  You can see the menu items added to the
>>> toolbar immediately if the toolbar is displayed.
>>
>> Please reply to users@openoffice.org only.
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>>
>> Maybe your question has been answered already?
>> http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ
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Re: [users] Distributions question - Is it legal...

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 12:42 -0500, Helen Schroeder wrote:
> I won a copy disc of this program on eBay. Is that authorized
> distribution? (Not incidentally, if integrity is important to you and
> your program, they charged me $8 to ship this little CD copy for which
> they actually paid 67 cents to ship.)

It is allowed by the LGPL (which OpenOffice.org is released under) to
sell copies of the program, subject to the conditions of the license.
One of those conditions is that you must get a copy of the source code
or be able to acquire a copy of the source code from the party who sold
you the copy; read the LGPL for more details.

(And remember that Richard Stallman himself sold copies of the first
versions of GNU Emacs for $150 per tape, licensed under the GPL.)

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Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO

[Ludo]

Thanks for the info.

I am still puzzled however.  I did find the "Circles and Ovals" entry in the 
Customize popup.  When I select that and click OK (se attached screenshot) 
the popup closes, but apparently nothing has changed, i.e. the toolbar is 
not available on my drawing, nor is it added to the list of possible 
toolbars in the View drop-down.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?


Thanks again for the response.

Ludo.

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From: "CPHennessy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: ; "Ludo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO



On Mon August 21 2006 11:09, + Ludo wrote:

 [ MODERATED ] 
Hi,

I am using OO 2.0.3 and have questions about using toolbars in Draw:

1. The help document explains that one can add toolbars to the list under
"View" - "Toolbar" by selecting Customize.  When I do that on that pop-up
screen, e.g. the "Circles and Ovals", and click OK, that toolbar is not
added to the View list.  Any one can explain what I am doing wrong?

2.  The help document describe an "Ellipses" and a "Tools" toolbar .  I 
can

not find either of them in the "Customize" screen drop-down menu.  Are
these not included in the regular installation program?  Where/how can I
add these?


As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that:
On Sat August 26 2006 01:26, Donald H Locker wrote:

Hi, Ludo.

I just tried it.  View -> Toolbars -> Customize

At the top of the pane that pops up is a drop-down list that seems to
start on Standard; it also a "Circles and Ovals" pick if that is what
you are looking for.  I don't see anything labeled "Tools" or similar.

To add an item to a toolbar, choose the toolbar to which you want to add
an item, "Picture" for instance.  Then click "Add...", hilight the
category and command on the new popup, then click "Add" on that new 
popup.


You can select another toolbar to add items to while the "Add..." popup
is up, so if you want to add a particular item to a number of toolbars,
add it to the first, select another toolbar on the first popup, and
click "Add" again.  When you have added all items you want, click
"Close" and you should be set.  You can see the menu items added to the
toolbar immediately if the toolbar is displayed.


Please reply to users@openoffice.org only.


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[users] viewer for openoffice files

[John King]

There have been several postings in the past asking if there was a viewer for 
openoffice files.

Today I received the information below from a company I've bought from in the 
past, advertising a free viewer for openoffice and other wordprocessor files, 
and am passing it on for information.  I've no connection with the company 
(other than being a satisfied customer!).

The present version is for Windows, but I haven't been able to test it on that 
platform yet.  However, I tried installing it under crossover office on Suse 
10, and it seems to run fine.


John King

***
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TextMaker Viewer: New revision available
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TextMaker Viewer, the free viewer for Microsoft Word, OpenDocument, 
OpenOffice.org, and TextMaker documents, is available in a revised
version with bug fixes and some significant new features:

- During installation, you can now select which file types to
associate with TextMaker Viewer, with sensible choices preselected.

- You can also have TextMaker Viewer appear in the "Open with..."
menu that is available when you right-click on a file.

- You can also run it from USB memory sticks, and TextMaker Viewer
will not install any local files or change the registry in any way.

Also an important bug has been fixed: TextMaker Viewer now actually
runs on French, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, and Turkish systems.
Before, it simply exited without a message. :-(

Free download and more information:
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Re: [users] Re: Label woes

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

Carl,

my last response may have seemed a little brusque - that was not my
intent - so could we try again? My remarks suggesting impatience were
with the program, not your question.

CarlP wrote:
[cut]


Thanks, Peter.  So am I to understand there's no going back once a
label document has been created (e.g. to select to print an entire
sheet of labels)?  Others?  I notice there is a Frames style option -
might there be a way to use that for labels in my case?  Finally, was
there a big change in how OOo handles labels from v.1 to v.2?


When you use the File > New > Labels menu you are offered the choice -
via the Options tab -  of producing a single label, or an entire page.
The 'Entire page' option results in a page of identical labels, all in
frames and this document can obviously be saved and/or edited as you see
fit.

The 'Single label' option results in a single frame, positioned in the
page appropriately for the row and column choice you make: there is no
automated method of moving that frame to another label position post the
creation event.

I can't say whether there were any changes between OO.o 1.1.x and 2.0.x
because, as I said in my previous post, I won't hurt my head with an
irrational, unnecessarily complicated methodology and therefore I have
never used the label creation routines (except to research answers like
this). Half an hour creating a set of table-based templates for a
lifetime of use seems a fair trade-off to me:-)


As I said in my original post, under OOo 1.0.4 (I think that was it)
I could go back and tell OOo whether or not to print one label or a
sheet of labels, and there was a way to apply paragraph styles to a
sheet of labels without creating a table layout approach for each
type of label you have, applying the address to the layout, then
modifying the table cells with styles.


See above: you could specify a single label, or a sheet full, but you
can only ever print in units of a page, so there is no going back except
by deleting the contents of all the unwanted label frames from a
'page-full' selection! I hope that makes sense.

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Re: [users] manual page breaks - two questions

[Ross Johnson]

mike scott wrote:


Not my day :-(

1. If I have a manual page break immediately before a table of, say, 
contents, how do I delete it?  The only way I've found is to delete and 
recreate the ToC.  Playing with 'edit paragraph style' and the text 
flow for the table doesn't do a lot.


2. If I've inserted a manual page break, how do I change its settings - 
in particular the page number for the next page?  The only way I've 
found is to delete and recreate it -- but this is irritating, falls 
foul of (1) above and assumes one can remember its properties from when 
it was created (afaict there's no way to read them once it exists).
 

These two probably have the same answer - in OOo the manual page break 
is a paragraph attribute.


Put the cursor somewhere in (e.g. at the start of) the first paragraph 
on the page. Now go to Format - Paragraph and go to the Text Flow tab in 
the dialog. There you will find the Breaks section.


For your first question, I think unchecking the Insert box will do what 
you want.


For question (2), check the With Page Style box (the Insert box should 
already be checked), then select the page number that you want. You can 
change the page style here as well if you want to.


You can always see the current page number in the status bar.

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[users] manual page breaks - two questions

[mike scott]

Not my day :-(

1. If I have a manual page break immediately before a table of, say, 
contents, how do I delete it?  The only way I've found is to delete and 
recreate the ToC.  Playing with 'edit paragraph style' and the text 
flow for the table doesn't do a lot.

2. If I've inserted a manual page break, how do I change its settings - 
in particular the page number for the next page?  The only way I've 
found is to delete and recreate it -- but this is irritating, falls 
foul of (1) above and assumes one can remember its properties from when 
it was created (afaict there's no way to read them once it exists).

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

(XP/OOo 2.0.2 btw)
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Re: [users] web publishing

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--- Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can make looking nice web pages with Notepad for
> the code... if you
> are a graphics designer. You can make nice web pages
> with a LAMP
> server... if you are a programmer looking for small
> footprint and
> efficiency. You can make nice web pages with
> flash... if animation
> floats your boat. It all depends on your definition
> of nice.
> 

Good point.  If you want a really good coded website
using a text editor of some kind and writing the code
yourself is the best way to go.  If  you don't know
the code and don't have time to learn it a simple
WYSIWG can make something usable, as long as your not
making a webpage for a big company.  If you want
something real fancy write the code yourself.

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Re: [users] [moderated]

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On Fri September 8 2006 06:03, + mary ann wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> i can get the office to open so i can write a document in it.   Help please

Was it working previously ?
Did you try rebooting your computer and trying again ?
What version of OpenOffice.org do you have installed ?
What operating system do you have installed ?

Please supply more information as your 1 line squestion does not give us 
enough to help you (it's like calling a car mechanic and asking why your car 
will not move - flat tyre, no gas, engine blown, hand brand on, clutch gone, 
etc, etc

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Re: [users] I have version 2.0 of OpenOffice.org. Can I update it to 2.0.3 without downloading the hole software

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There are no updates available. You have to download the whole package.

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Re: [users] [moderated]

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On Fri September 8 2006 18:01, + Adele Ben'Ary wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> The first time I log in on my PC I get a message to recover a file
> "EATING".  Each time I click "Next" it indicates that the process has
> failed.  I click "Send Report" but never receive a report.  I've been
> clicking DO NOT SEND REPORT just to get the message off the screen.  This
> has been going on for over 3 weeks.  Suggestions?

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> Click cancel instead of next.

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Re: [users] cannot open it in my window

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On Wed September 6 2006 17:26, + lawson4852 wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> I downloaded openoffice in my window but it is not in my programs list. It
> is however in my daughters window. How can I get in on my window? Thank
> You,

Hi Theresa,
 You have to install the software, then you should find it under Start -> 
Programs -> OpenOffice.org.

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Re: [users] Capatible with Quickbooks?

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On Wed September 6 2006 23:49, + Stacy Mattheis wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> Hello, do you know if your latest version is compatible with Quickbooks Pro
> 2006 software re: their Excel spreadsheet export?

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>
> Well, having never actually used Quickbooks Pro, I can't say for sure.
> However, if Quickbooks saves its report in a standard Excel format
> OpenOffice "SHOULD" (key emphasis) be able to open it.  The good thing is
> OpenOffice.org doesn't cost anything to download and try out other than
> time, so I'd recommend having a go at it, and letting the list know your
> results.

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Re: [users] Cannot install openoffice org 2.0

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On Thu September 7 2006 08:56, + telia wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] ***
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to get openoffice 2.0 installed on my fedora core 5 machine.
>
> When I extracted all the rpms according to rpm -Uvh *rpm they all
> installed properly, but afterwards I am not able to start any tools. The
> process just seems to die. The main window starts, but I cannot see any
> calc or write or anything like that.
>
> I tried to remove the /opt/openoffice  and the /usr/lib/openoffice
> files, according to instructions on the home page, but when i reinstall
> the rpms it claims they are already installed and breaks process.
>
> When I use the package updater from Fedora (which downloads ooo 1.9) I
> at least get an indication that I could start the calc or write (they
> are visible under the new tab in the file menu). Then the process dies
> again.
>
> Last week it worked fine on the same machine, I reinstalled Fedora
> during the weekend though (from scratch).
>
> Does anyone have a clue?

Hi Jacob,
 Which version of OpenOffice.org 2.0 were you trying to install ?
Did you verify the MD5SUM signature as described on the download page ?

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Re: [users] Unable to create database connection in db_connect()

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On Thu September 7 2006 17:57, + Patricia Corcoran wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> While tryingto download openoffice

Hi Patricia,
 Can you please try to download again as you may have seen a temporary problem 
with the downloads.

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Re: [users] Opening .ics files

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On Thu September 7 2006 19:34, + Tapas Ray wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] ***
> I am using OpenOffice 2.0 in a Windows XP environment. I do not have MS
> Office. I get alerts for the day's events from Google Calendar as .ics
> files, which do not seem to open in OpenOffice. I googled ".ics" and came
> to learn that it's a calendar file for Outlook. Is there any way that I can
> open these files without going to the trouble and expense of getting MS
> Office?
>
> I would really appreciate your help with this.

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> Tapas wrote"
>
> >I googled ".ics" and came to learn that it's a calendar file for Outlook.
>
> It is a standard calendar file format.  You can open them with SunBird,
> the calender extension to Firefox, or the calendar extension to
> ThunderBird.  [There is a lot more software that recognizes/uses that
> file format.]
>

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Re: [users] verse layout, widows and orphans

[Ross Johnson]

mike scott wrote:

I understand how to control widowed and orphaned lines when the text is 
free-flowing within a paragraph, with line ends determined by OOo.  
However, I'm producing a song-book where end-of-line control is 
necessarily mine, not automatic.
 


Which version of OOo are you using?

I'm having trouble finding a satisfactory way of preventing song 
titles, single/double lines of verses, and 'chorus' and other labels 
from appearing alone at start or end of page.
 


Titles should be doable using "Keep with next".

If I end a line with a simple 'return', that's means each line is a new 
paragraph for OOo, and the widow and orphan control doesn't apply (at 
least not in any useful way). If I use shift-return, OOo treats the 
whole such as a unit, and refuses to split at all across page 
boundaries.
 

Not sure if this helps nor do I understand what the issue is with 
choruses and labels.


For verses with Shift+Return line endings the widow/orphan controls 
should work, provided the total number of lines defined for both is not 
greater than the number of lines in the verse. I tried this in OOo2.0.3 
with a set of five line verses with Shift+Return line ends and a Return 
to end the last line of the verse. With orphan/widow both set to 2 
(default), the verse split as expected, provided there is space for at 
least 2 lines of verse before the page break of course. If I set both 
orphan/widow to 3 (total equal to 6, i.e. greater than 5), the entire 
verse moves to the next page because both the orphan and widow 
conditions could be met at the same time. This has the same effect as 
checking the "Don't split pararaph" box.


The only way I can see at present is to manually format the whole lot 
with return, shift-return and 'keep with next para'; but obviously 
changes to the text are then a nightmare!
 

I don't think you should need to add blank lines to get verses to split 
or to stay together if this is what you mean, as described above.


Do you have paragraph styles defined for verses, choruses, titles, etc? 
This will make it easy to apply changes to all verses, etc. at the same 
time.


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Re: [users] NEWSLETTER ..help!

[Adrian Try]

When I saw Jorge's inquiry, I had hoped for a pointer to a news letter  
formatting

template. Does such a template exist?


There's one on this page:

http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/downloads/english/




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Re: [users] NEWSLETTER ..help!

[David B Teague]

Michael Adams wrote:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:57:32 -0700 (PDT)
jorge pereira wrote:

  

i need to know if i can use OO2.0 to create a NEWSLETTER and HOW?
   



Yes you can, but there are many variables involved.
 
[how to] is covered at the website with user manuals etc. 
here: http://documentation.openoffice.org/


Have fun learning.
I just did a news letter using OO.o and exporting it to PDF. OO.o works 
every
bit as well as MS Office for this (and every other) word processing task 
I have

done and better.

When I saw Jorge's inquiry, I had hoped for a pointer to a news letter 
formatting

template. Does such a template exist?

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Re: [users] Problem with OpenOffice.org - cannot run anymore after an error message

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On Thu August 24 2006 03:32, + Brian Edwin Rodriguez wrote:
> Good day!
>
>   We are a company engaged in CAD operations and we have been using the
> OpenOffice suite version 2.0 for our other office related tasks like word
> processing.
>
>   We recently encountered a problem with the said suite.  One problem is
> that when the PC's of one of our sections is disconnected from the network,
> they cannot use any of the OpenOffice suite.  The other problem is that
> when the other computers try to print, they encounter an error and
> OpenOffice does not start anymore.  We had to re-install OpenOffice again
> to fix the problem.
>
>   The setup of our network is like this.  We have around 30 PC's on the
> network the configurations of each is for CAD applications.  These are
> Pentium 4 systems ranging from 2.6GHz to 3.0GHz with 128MB 128-bit GForce
> graphic cards.  All RAM's are 1GHz and most boards are ASUS brand. The
> computers are connected via D-Link router.  We have 3 printers connected to
> the network via D-Link DP-300U Printer Server.  The printers are HP DeskJet
> 1180C, HP DesignJet 70 and EPSON EPL-6200L.
>
>   The problem began when we acquired the HP DesignJet 70 printer and
> connected it to the network.  Sometimes when we tried to print with any of
> the printers, we encounter the same error with the OpenOffice and we cannot
> use the software anymore until we re-install it all over again.  It kept on
> displaying the Recovery Page but the application does not start even when
> we tried to recover.
>
>   We hope you could help us regarding this matter because this problem
> takes away precious time from our daily operations.  In return, we also
> hope that this report will be beneficial to you as this may be a unique bug
> in the code of OpenOffice suite thus contributing to the improvement of the
> application.
>
>   We are attaching the error report generated by Openffice with this email.
>  Thank you very much and we will appreciate your response on this matter.

Hi Brian,
 Sorry for the late reply. Can you please try OpenOffice.org 2.0.4rc1 ( 
release candidate 1) available from :
http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html

This may solve your printing problem.

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Re: [users] [moderated] Use of toolbars in OO

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On Mon August 21 2006 11:09, + Ludo wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> Hi,
>
> I am using OO 2.0.3 and have questions about using toolbars in Draw:
>
> 1. The help document explains that one can add toolbars to the list under
> "View" - "Toolbar" by selecting Customize.  When I do that on that pop-up
> screen, e.g. the "Circles and Ovals", and click OK, that toolbar is not
> added to the View list.  Any one can explain what I am doing wrong?
>
> 2.  The help document describe an "Ellipses" and a "Tools" toolbar .  I can
> not find either of them in the "Customize" screen drop-down menu.  Are
> these not included in the regular installation program?  Where/how can I
> add these?

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> Hi, Ludo.
>
> I just tried it.  View -> Toolbars -> Customize
>
> At the top of the pane that pops up is a drop-down list that seems to
> start on Standard; it also a "Circles and Ovals" pick if that is what
> you are looking for.  I don't see anything labeled "Tools" or similar.
>
> To add an item to a toolbar, choose the toolbar to which you want to add
> an item, "Picture" for instance.  Then click "Add...", hilight the
> category and command on the new popup, then click "Add" on that new popup.
>
> You can select another toolbar to add items to while the "Add..." popup
> is up, so if you want to add a particular item to a number of toolbars,
> add it to the first, select another toolbar on the first popup, and
> click "Add" again.  When you have added all items you want, click
> "Close" and you should be set.  You can see the menu items added to the
> toolbar immediately if the toolbar is displayed.

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Re: [users] how to start OOo1.1.5_2 on FReeBSD6.1

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To run a program simple run the soffice binary.

On Fri August 18 2006 11:31, + Michel L. Dixon wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] ***
> I said in my original email ...using the "PORTS  of FreeBSD 6.1"
>
> I also updated the ports collection BEFORE installing openoffice as
> advised in Chapter 4 of the latest FreeBSD Handbook.  I also checked
> available space and was wrong ... I did have 11+GB available on that
> partition ... and installed the native JDK as the error message told
> me when I tried to install OO0-2.0 the first time ... that
> jdk-1.4.2  took over 12 hours to install and then OOo took over 18
> hours to install ... and I'm running a 2.6G pentium so is that to be
> expected???
>
> I think its on there... I find "SETUP"  files ... but the website
> just said it would magically show up in the "Programs" of  Gnome
> after install???
>
> Still need your help ... it WAS installed from pre-built packages in
> the updated ports collection.
>
> Mike
>
> At 04:37 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote:
> >On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 07:07 -0400, Mike Dixon wrote:
> > > I installed openoffice.org-1.1 on FreeBSD v6.1 (as root) using the
> > > ports make install clean ... it took over 18 hours to finish (maybe
> > > because I did not have the required 9GB of space in that FBSD
> > > partition.  After installing Inothing shows up in any of the Gnome
> > > applications, places or desktop menus ... rebooted still nothing how do
> > > I start one any of the programs???
> >
> >Since you built from sources rather than using the pre-built packages
> >available from http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ it is unlikely any
> >of the volunteers on this list can help.  Therefore I recommend that you
> >post your query on dev@porting.openoffice.org where the developers are.
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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

[James Knott]

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> I don't even have Microsoft Office so I cannot make it my default for  
> opening documents.  What your system is asking is whether you want the file  
> associations, like .doc, .xls, etc. to open by default with Microsoft  
> Office.  That 
> is up to you.  If you make these file associations open  in Microsoft Office 
> by default, you will have to explicitly open them in  OpenOffice.  Perhaps 
> that 
> is want you want or not.  For a beginning  user, it is probably better to 
> open in Microsoft Office by default.  But as  I said at the start, I don't 
> have 
> Microsoft Office and am happy at having saved  the money.

There are two settings, one as you describe for which is the default app
to open MS Office documents.  The other is the default format for OO to
save files.  If most of your files are to be exchanged with MS Office
users, you may want to set that too.  This setting can be found under
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[users] OpenOffice.org 1.1.5 doesn't remember my dictionary settings...

[Johnny Andersson]

Hello!


1. Spell check ON/OFF
2. The checkboxes at Tools-Options-Langugae settings-Linguistics (or
something like that, just tried to translate from Swedish)
3. Maybe more things, I didn't check everything...

These things are not remembered by OpenOffice.org 1.1.5 since a while back.
A month ago I had no problems with that. The only thing I did since then was
to completely empty my HDD (the one including the OS and all software, I
have all my documents on another one which I just removed during that
process to make sure I didn't erase the wrong HDD) and then install Windows
98 and most of my software from scratch.

Since this worked fine before the reinstallation, I obviously didn't do
everything right this time, but what?

Everytime I open Writer (and maybe other applications as well, I didn't test
that yet), the spell checker is turned OFF and my own dictionary is
unchecked at Tools-Options-Langugae settings-Linguistics. Actually most
things are unchecked there, like my Swedish spell checker and things like
that.


Any help wil be appreciated.

Thanks!

Johnny

[users] verse layout, widows and orphans

[mike scott]

I understand how to control widowed and orphaned lines when the text is 
free-flowing within a paragraph, with line ends determined by OOo.  
However, I'm producing a song-book where end-of-line control is 
necessarily mine, not automatic.

I'm having trouble finding a satisfactory way of preventing song 
titles, single/double lines of verses, and 'chorus' and other labels 
from appearing alone at start or end of page.

If I end a line with a simple 'return', that's means each line is a new 
paragraph for OOo, and the widow and orphan control doesn't apply (at 
least not in any useful way). If I use shift-return, OOo treats the 
whole such as a unit, and refuses to split at all across page 
boundaries.

The only way I can see at present is to manually format the whole lot 
with return, shift-return and 'keep with next para'; but obviously 
changes to the text are then a nightmare!

I assume someone, somewhere must have met this already - is there 
something obvious I'm missing please? Or are there any other thoughts 
on laying out verse so page splits behave reasonably?
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[users] I have version 2.0 of OpenOffice.org. Can I update it to 2.0.3 without downloading the hole software

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Re: [users] set Writer to flag double spaces as spelling errors

[Harold Fuchs]

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Subject: Re: [users] set Writer to flag double spaces as spelling errors


> arnold huzen wrote:
>> Under autocorrection you can activate an option to ignore double spaces. Go 
>> to 'Extra/Autocorrection', then click on the tab Options.
>>
>> Arnold Huzen
>>
>> James Lockie schreef:
>>   
>>> How do I set Writer to flag double spaces as spelling errors?
> 
> That is a partial work around but it only works for newly typed text and 
> I want to know where the double spaces are since I want them in some 
> places but not others.
> 


You can use Find to find occurrences of double/multiple spaces.

Where you want double spaces, use the non-breaking space feature - hold down 
the Ctrl key as you type a space. See "Inserting Protected Spaces" in Help.

You can change double space to single space or to { } as you 
want; the second option will preserve the double space even with Ignore Double 
Spaces turned on.

A protected space will show as grey if you have Show Field Shadings turned on - 
which I recommend if you use forms at all.

Harold Fuchs
London, England

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