Re: [users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[John Kaufmann]

Hi Andy,

In a message dated 2010.06.15 19:41 -0500, RA Brown wrote:



BTW: other collaboration projects/offerings are here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions
[Content & Document Management Systems, Search Technology]


The reason I think the links might have some relevance is the 
following quote relating to synchronisation from the first (MSO)

page about Groove: "All changes are tracked by Groove, sent to all
members and all copies of the workspace are synchronized
 via the network in a 
peer-to-peer  manner."


I think you missed the start of the thread, the original question had
 nothing to do with collaboration.  Dotan was asking about using 
something in Writer like what Calc uses for "sheets".  The point of 
collaboration was only added as benefit of adding the ability. ...


Neither Harold nor anyone else has any question about where the thread 
began. But as you say, Barbara reinforced Dotan's request by pointing 
out the benefit to workspace synchronization.  Then two days ago 
jonathon replied that such synchronization has been managed in OO by 
macro - and I'm afraid we have been, since then (absent clarification 
from jonathon), trying to decode that message.  Sorry if you missed the 
subthread.


John

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

[users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[NoOp]

On 06/15/2010 05:12 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> RA Brown wrote:
>> Harold Fuchs wrote:
...
>>> The reason I think the links might have some relevance is the 
>>> following quote relating to synchronisation from the first (MSO) page 
>>> about Groove: "All changes are tracked by Groove, sent to all members 
>>> and all copies of the workspace are synchronized 
>>>  via the network in a 
>>> peer-to-peer  manner."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Harold,
>>
>> I think you missed the start of the thread, the original question had 
>> nothing to do with collaboration.  Dotan was asking about using 
>> something in Writer like what Calc uses for "sheets".  The point of 
>> collaboration was only added as benefit of adding the ability.
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=users&msgNo=205383 
>> is the start of the thread.
>>
>> Andy
>>
> 
> Errm. John Kaufmann wrote, in this thread, on 15/06/10 at 13:14 "So it 
> was a macro to link documents fo synchronization, including synchronized 
> recovery following a document crash?  If so, I would love to see how 
> that worked.  If I have misunderstood your point, please correct. "
> 
> I picked up on "synchronisation".
> 

Well... you know jonathan has never been one to post back with details
:-) so I reckon we'll never know.

@jonathon: care to correct me & shed some light on what you were
referring to?




-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

[users] Format error in Calc

[Julio Sotolongo]

I have a file in Calc which I created and have used to input information 
since June 1, 2009. Yesterday when opening it this error message 
appeared: "Format error discovered in the file in sub-document 
content.xml at 2, 31029 (row, col)."

Clicking OK or closing the error both result in the file not loading.
Is there a way of opening the file, even with the problem, or perhaps 
repairing the file? I tried using Draw to open the file, but the same 
message appeared.

Nothing turned up in a search on OpenOffice.
My computer is running XP sp3. The version of OOo is 3.2.0.
Thank you for your assistance.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[Harold Fuchs]

RA Brown wrote:

Harold Fuchs wrote:

NoOp wrote:


Thanks Harold. What you are referring to is more along the lines of
server collaboration, so I suspect that may not be what he is 
referring to.


That said; if jonathon cares to offer some details, I'll be happy to
fire up MSO97 and OOo 1.1 to test.

BTW: other collaboration projects/offerings are here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions
[Content & Document Management Systems, Search Technology]



  
The reason I think the links might have some relevance is the 
following quote relating to synchronisation from the first (MSO) page 
about Groove: "All changes are tracked by Groove, sent to all members 
and all copies of the workspace are synchronized 
 via the network in a 
peer-to-peer  manner."





Hi Harold,

I think you missed the start of the thread, the original question had 
nothing to do with collaboration.  Dotan was asking about using 
something in Writer like what Calc uses for "sheets".  The point of 
collaboration was only added as benefit of adding the ability.


http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=users&msgNo=205383 
is the start of the thread.


Andy



Errm. John Kaufmann wrote, in this thread, on 15/06/10 at 13:14 "So it 
was a macro to link documents fo synchronization, including synchronized 
recovery following a document crash?  If so, I would love to see how 
that worked.  If I have misunderstood your point, please correct. "


I picked up on "synchronisation".

--
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[RA Brown]

Harold Fuchs wrote:

NoOp wrote:


Thanks Harold. What you are referring to is more along the lines of
server collaboration, so I suspect that may not be what he is 
referring to.


That said; if jonathon cares to offer some details, I'll be happy to
fire up MSO97 and OOo 1.1 to test.

BTW: other collaboration projects/offerings are here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions
[Content & Document Management Systems, Search Technology]



  
The reason I think the links might have some relevance is the following 
quote relating to synchronisation from the first (MSO) page about 
Groove: "All changes are tracked by Groove, sent to all members and all 
copies of the workspace are synchronized 
 via the network in a 
peer-to-peer  manner."





Hi Harold,

I think you missed the start of the thread, the original question had 
nothing to do with collaboration.  Dotan was asking about using 
something in Writer like what Calc uses for "sheets".  The point of 
collaboration was only added as benefit of adding the ability.


http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=users&msgNo=205383 
is the start of the thread.


Andy


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[Harold Fuchs]

NoOp wrote:

On 06/15/2010 11:42 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
  

NoOp wrote:


On 06/15/2010 05:14 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:
  
  

In a message dated 2010.06.15 02:29 -0500, jonathon wrote:


...
  

Did you know that there was a macro for OOo 1.1.x that provided that
functionality?
  
  

No. But just to be clear, the functionality you refer is this?:



... the recovery aspect [has] a real benefit. As I indicated, the
current system does leave the possibility of having closely
related documents recovered to different points in the workflow.
  
  
So it was a macro to link documents fo synchronization, including 
synchronized recovery following a document crash?  If so, I would love 
to see how that worked.  If I have misunderstood your point, please correct.





It worked about as well as the equivalent in MSO97. (I don't remember
when Microsoft removed that functionality from MSO.)
  
  

I did not know MSO ever had such capability [but my ignorance is vast ;-) ].


...
  

I am unlcear about the macro & functionality that Jonathan refers to.
However, I do have both OOo 1.1 and MSO97 and can test/check both if he
can clarify. MSO97 is currently operational on a Win2K virtual machine &
it would only take me about and hour to install OOo 1.1 from the
original CD on the same VM.

  


  
I *think* these links might be at least related to what Jonathon is 
talking about although both refer to software considerably later than 
MSO 97 and OOo 1.1:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Groove
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/TeamDrive





Thanks Harold. What you are referring to is more along the lines of
server collaboration, so I suspect that may not be what he is referring to.

That said; if jonathon cares to offer some details, I'll be happy to
fire up MSO97 and OOo 1.1 to test.

BTW: other collaboration projects/offerings are here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions
[Content & Document Management Systems, Search Technology]



  
The reason I think the links might have some relevance is the following 
quote relating to synchronisation from the first (MSO) page about 
Groove: "All changes are tracked by Groove, sent to all members and all 
copies of the workspace are synchronized 
 via the network in a 
peer-to-peer  manner."



--
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org

[users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[NoOp]

On 06/15/2010 11:42 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 06/15/2010 05:14 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:
>>   
>>> In a message dated 2010.06.15 02:29 -0500, jonathon wrote:
...
 Did you know that there was a macro for OOo 1.1.x that provided that
 functionality?
   
>>> No. But just to be clear, the functionality you refer is this?:
>>> 
>> ... the recovery aspect [has] a real benefit. As I indicated, the
>> current system does leave the possibility of having closely
>> related documents recovered to different points in the workflow.
>>   
>>> So it was a macro to link documents fo synchronization, including 
>>> synchronized recovery following a document crash?  If so, I would love 
>>> to see how that worked.  If I have misunderstood your point, please correct.
>>>
>>> 
 It worked about as well as the equivalent in MSO97. (I don't remember
 when Microsoft removed that functionality from MSO.)
   
>>> I did not know MSO ever had such capability [but my ignorance is vast ;-) ].
...
>>
>> I am unlcear about the macro & functionality that Jonathan refers to.
>> However, I do have both OOo 1.1 and MSO97 and can test/check both if he
>> can clarify. MSO97 is currently operational on a Win2K virtual machine &
>> it would only take me about and hour to install OOo 1.1 from the
>> original CD on the same VM.
>>

> I *think* these links might be at least related to what Jonathon is 
> talking about although both refer to software considerably later than 
> MSO 97 and OOo 1.1:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Groove
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/TeamDrive
> 
> 

Thanks Harold. What you are referring to is more along the lines of
server collaboration, so I suspect that may not be what he is referring to.

That said; if jonathon cares to offer some details, I'll be happy to
fire up MSO97 and OOo 1.1 to test.

BTW: other collaboration projects/offerings are here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions
[Content & Document Management Systems, Search Technology]


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

[users] Re: Does Writer Have a Random Text Generator?

[NoOp]

On 06/15/2010 02:05 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
> I'll bet there is a way to change the text to the standard lorem ipsum
> passage:
> 
> "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
> eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad
> minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
> ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
> voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
> sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
> mollit anim id est laborum."
> 
> I'll have a look around to see where the dt file is. Note: I did find a
> few links where you can build your own extension to do this:
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9412
> http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/61711
> 
> But seems that it might be easier to just change the already existing dt
> rather than creating a new extension.
...
Figured it out (Help|AutoText). Open a new Writer doc and paste the
lorem ipsum passage:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
mollit anim id est laborum.

Then highlight the passage with the mouse and:
- Edit|AutoText
- My AutoText
Create a new AT named lorum ipsum & shortcut key 'Li'. Then just enter:
Li(F3) at the start of the line & lorum ipsum is inserted.


>From Help:
AutoText
Click to display additional AutoText commands, for example, to create a
new AutoText entry from a text selection in the current document.
New
Creates a new AutoText entry from the selection that you made in the
current document. The entry is added to the currently selected AutoText
category. You must first enter a name before you see this command.
New (text only)
Creates a new AutoText entry only from the text in the selection that
you made in the current document. Graphics, tables and other objects are
not included. You must first enter a name before you see this command.


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

[users] Re: Does Writer Have a Random Text Generator?

[NoOp]

On 06/15/2010 12:34 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Gene Young  wrote:
>> On 6/15/2010 3:08 PM, PJH wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a simple way to generate a paragraph or two of random text (or
>>> "lorem ipsum")??
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
> 
> Another way is to enter "dt" - (dummy text) without the quotes, on an
> empty line and hit F3.
> 
> /paul

Very interesting:



I'll bet there is a way to change the text to the standard lorem ipsum
passage:

"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
mollit anim id est laborum."

I'll have a look around to see where the dt file is. Note: I did find a
few links where you can build your own extension to do this:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9412
http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/61711

But seems that it might be easier to just change the already existing dt
rather than creating a new extension.

The extension[1] on the extension website actually calls links out to
the http://lipsum.com/ website. Unfortunately that's not useful when you
are offline. Plus, some might not wish to have an extension calling out
to a web link in the first place.

[1]





-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Does Writer Have a Random Text Generator?

[RA Brown]

PJH wrote:
Is there a simple way to generate a paragraph or two of random text (or 
"lorem ipsum")??


Thanks.



Try http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ and put lorem ipsum in 
the search box.  I found several items listed but can not verify any 
will do what you need.


Hope this helps.

Andy


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Does Writer Have a Random Text Generator?

[Paul]

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Gene Young  wrote:
> On 6/15/2010 3:08 PM, PJH wrote:
>>
>> Is there a simple way to generate a paragraph or two of random text (or
>> "lorem ipsum")??
>>
>> Thanks.
>>

Another way is to enter "dt" - (dummy text) without the quotes, on an
empty line and hit F3.

/paul

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Does Writer Have a Random Text Generator?

[Gene Young]

On 6/15/2010 3:08 PM, PJH wrote:

Is there a simple way to generate a paragraph or two of random text (or
"lorem ipsum")??

Thanks.



Lorem ipsum generator 1.6.0 found at;
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/node/287/release

--
Gene Young

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

[users] Does Writer Have a Random Text Generator?

[PJH]

Is there a simple way to generate a paragraph or two of random text (or 
"lorem ipsum")??


Thanks.

--
Pete Holsberg
Columbus, NJ

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.
That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their 
shoes.

- Frieda Norris


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[Harold Fuchs]

NoOp wrote:

On 06/15/2010 05:14 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:
  

In a message dated 2010.06.15 02:29 -0500, jonathon wrote:



That alone is already a very interesting way to think about this,
beyond what Dotan originally proposed (or at least draws out more
explicitly an advantage implicit in the original proposal). But
then you make the case even more powerful:


Did you know that there was a macro for OOo 1.1.x that provided that
functionality?
  

No. But just to be clear, the functionality you refer is this?:


... the recovery aspect [has] a real benefit. As I indicated, the
current system does leave the possibility of having closely
related documents recovered to different points in the workflow.
  
So it was a macro to link documents fo synchronization, including 
synchronized recovery following a document crash?  If so, I would love 
to see how that worked.  If I have misunderstood your point, please correct.




It worked about as well as the equivalent in MSO97. (I don't remember
when Microsoft removed that functionality from MSO.)
  

I did not know MSO ever had such capability [but my ignorance is vast ;-) ].

John



I am unlcear about the macro & functionality that Jonathan refers to.
However, I do have both OOo 1.1 and MSO97 and can test/check both if he
can clarify. MSO97 is currently operational on a Win2K virtual machine &
it would only take me about and hour to install OOo 1.1 from the
original CD on the same VM.





  
I *think* these links might be at least related to what Jonathon is 
talking about although both refer to software considerably later than 
MSO 97 and OOo 1.1:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Groove
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/TeamDrive


--
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org

[users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[NoOp]

On 06/15/2010 05:14 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:
> In a message dated 2010.06.15 02:29 -0500, jonathon wrote:
> 
>>> That alone is already a very interesting way to think about this,
>>> beyond what Dotan originally proposed (or at least draws out more
>>> explicitly an advantage implicit in the original proposal). But
>>> then you make the case even more powerful:
>> 
>> Did you know that there was a macro for OOo 1.1.x that provided that
>> functionality?
> 
> No. But just to be clear, the functionality you refer is this?:
 ... the recovery aspect [has] a real benefit. As I indicated, the
 current system does leave the possibility of having closely
 related documents recovered to different points in the workflow.
> 
> So it was a macro to link documents fo synchronization, including 
> synchronized recovery following a document crash?  If so, I would love 
> to see how that worked.  If I have misunderstood your point, please correct.
> 
>> It worked about as well as the equivalent in MSO97. (I don't remember
>> when Microsoft removed that functionality from MSO.)
> 
> I did not know MSO ever had such capability [but my ignorance is vast ;-) ].
> 
> John

I am unlcear about the macro & functionality that Jonathan refers to.
However, I do have both OOo 1.1 and MSO97 and can test/check both if he
can clarify. MSO97 is currently operational on a Win2K virtual machine &
it would only take me about and hour to install OOo 1.1 from the
original CD on the same VM.






-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [users] Re: Multiple "sheets" in Writer

[John Kaufmann]

In a message dated 2010.06.15 02:29 -0500, jonathon wrote:


That alone is already a very interesting way to think about this,
beyond what Dotan originally proposed (or at least draws out more
explicitly an advantage implicit in the original proposal). But
then you make the case even more powerful:


Did you know that there was a macro for OOo 1.1.x that provided that
functionality?


No. But just to be clear, the functionality you refer is this?:

... the recovery aspect [has] a real benefit. As I indicated, the
current system does leave the possibility of having closely
related documents recovered to different points in the workflow.


So it was a macro to link documents fo synchronization, including 
synchronized recovery following a document crash?  If so, I would love 
to see how that worked.  If I have misunderstood your point, please correct.



It worked about as well as the equivalent in MSO97. (I don't remember
when Microsoft removed that functionality from MSO.)


I did not know MSO ever had such capability [but my ignorance is vast ;-) ].

John

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org