Re: [users] trouble with attachments

2010-09-20 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

 On 19/09/2010 23:38, RA Brown wrote:



Did they by chance upgrade their versions of Office?  MS made changes 
in the last round of Office so that older formats do not work, even 
from older versions of Office.


H. I have Office 2007(uses OOXML by default)  and have no problems 
opening attachments created in prior versions of Office. Not much about 
this on the MS Answers forums either


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[users] Attached tables in Base on OpenOffice

2010-09-20 Thread pro...@team2i.fr



   Est il possible d'attacher des tables dans le module Base
   d'OpenOffice et comment ?
   Is it possible attaching tables in the module Base of OpenOffice and
   How?


Cordialement.

Philippe ROCHE - Team2i - 01 45 67 84 94



Re: [users] Re: Cassette Sleeve Template?

2010-09-20 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 19 September 2010 12:16, Pat shamr...@ptd.net wrote:

 You try the following.
 STOMP INC.
 2950 Airway Ave # B1
 Costa Mesa, CA 92626
 FAX# (714) 424-0655
 Internet site at www.Labelcd.com

 I have used a lot of their stuff going back a long way and found if very
 helpful
 Hope this helps. PAT


snip

Hmm. Thanks for this. I've tried many times since reading your message but I
can't reach their web site. I get Time-Out errors. Do they still exist?

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Re: [users] RE: Cassette Sleeve Template?

2010-09-20 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 16 September 2010 20:15, Dorothy Fuchs dotti...@q.com wrote:

 Harold,

 I think I know what you're looking for; here's a URL to a Microsoft
 template for music (hope referring to that site doesn't get me removed
 from this list):


 http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT010144468.aspx#ai:TC001012999|http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT010144468.aspx#ai:TC001012999%7C

 It's an older template, so Microsoft may not check your system to see if
 you have any of their software before permitting the download.  They do that
 for the newer templates.  (I have both Microsoft and OpenOffice on my
 system.)

 If you can't download the template from their site, please let me know, and
 I can attach it and send it to you privately.  I do a LOT of audiocassettes
 (for myself and my nearly-blind mother), and have adapted a template for my
 preferences.

 Rummaging around on my system, I also found another audio cassette insert
 template, which is even older (or perhaps I got it from another place); this
 one just has lines (no background image).

 Another bit of trivia, some other software and paper distributors call
 audio cassette inserts J-cards (don't know why).

 Hope this helps.

 :) Dottie in New Mexico


snip

Dottie,

Thanks for this. I downloaded it and can open it in OpenOffice Writer. Most
of it is exactly what I want. But there's a pre-printed piece of text near
the top that I can't get rid of. It says Date: 5/17/2001. Do you know how
to get rid of it?


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[users] Re: [ui-access] Question about OpenOffice.org from new user

2010-09-20 Thread Malte Timmermann
Hi Ann

(changing list to users@, since accessibility@ is wrong).

With using OOo and ODF, it's very likely that others can read you
documents, because anybody can download OOo, and many other applications
have support for ODF, even MS Office starting with 2007SP1.

Malte.

Ann Jones wrote, On 09/18/10 20:07:
 Dear Sir/Madam,
 I recently and successfully downloaded OOo software, simply so that 
 recipients of my text documents are able to easily open my attachments.
 Because my computer operates Windows Vista, which came with Works word 
 processor built in, but I found that recipients of my attachments were unable 
 to open my Works documents on their PCs, perhaps because they are using older 
 versions of Windows, etc. ?
 By now using OpenOffice.org word processing software, will different 
 recipient's operating systems operators now be able to easily open my text 
 attachments? Or do they first have to down load OpenOffice.org software?
 
 Kind regards, 
  
 Ann Jones
 

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Re: [users] Re: [ui-access] Question about OpenOffice.org from new user

2010-09-20 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

 On 20/09/2010 10:34, Malte Timmermann wrote:

and many other applications have support for ODF, even MS Office starting with 
2007SP1.



Support for ODF and Microsoft in the same sentence is an oxymoron - 
the ODF support in Office 2007 SP2 is lip service at best and 
deliberately broken at worst. Whether they've improved on this with 
Office 2010 I don't know and I'm not about to find out either!


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Re: [users] trouble with attachments

2010-09-20 Thread Sam Swaminath
Hi,
I have MS Windows XP.  I also had Open Office 2.3.   I saw a popup asking
for updating.  I clicked it and upgraded to Open Office 3.1.  Alas!!!  I am
not able to open up any of my Files  Documents saved by Open Office 2.3.
Another problem is the new version 3.1 has uninstalled the 2.3 version.
Kindly advise me what to do.
Thanks, with warm regards,
Sam

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:08 AM, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote:

  caroline fairless wrote:

 Hello,
 I love open office, but I am having trouble emailing attachments.
 I save them as .doc files using the microsoft option, '97 2000 XP, but
 people aren't able to open them.
 I think I'll send you one and see what happens. It will just say test.
 Thanks.

 Caroline fairless


 Hi Caroline,

 Did they by chance upgrade their versions of Office?  MS made changes in
 the last round of Office so that older formats do not work, even from older
 versions of Office.

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Re: [users] trouble with attachments

2010-09-20 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

 On 20/09/2010 10:49, Sam Swaminath wrote:

Hi,
I have MS Windows XP.  I also had Open Office 2.3.   I saw a popup asking
for updating.  I clicked it and upgraded to Open Office 3.1.  Alas!!!  I am
not able to open up any of my Files  Documents saved by Open Office 2.3.
Another problem is the new version 3.1 has uninstalled the 2.3 version.
Kindly advise me what to do.
Thanks, with warm regards,
Sam



3.2.1 should be able to open prior version documents with ease. What 
happens when you try?


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Re: [users] Re: [ui-access] Question about OpenOffice.org from new user

2010-09-20 Thread Malte Timmermann
Should be good enough for reading received attachments (home users,
not enterprise) - didn't want to start the how-good-is-odf-in-mso
discussion here.

Malte.

Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote, On 09/20/10 11:43:
   On 20/09/2010 10:34, Malte Timmermann wrote:
 and many other applications have support for ODF, even MS Office starting 
 with 2007SP1.

 
 Support for ODF and Microsoft in the same sentence is an oxymoron - 
 the ODF support in Office 2007 SP2 is lip service at best and 
 deliberately broken at worst. Whether they've improved on this with 
 Office 2010 I don't know and I'm not about to find out either!
 
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Re: [users] RE: Cassette Sleeve Template?

2010-09-20 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:16 20/09/2010 +0100, Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 16 September 2010 20:15, Dorothy Fuchs dotti...@q.com wrote:
I think I know what you're looking for; here's a URL to a Microsoft 
template for music ...


Thanks for this. I downloaded it and can open it in OpenOffice 
Writer. Most of it is exactly what I want. But there's a pre-printed 
piece of text near the top that I can't get rid of. It says Date: 
5/17/2001. Do you know how to get rid of it?


Just click somewhere outside the background graphic.  The insertion 
point will now be in the text.  Move it and edit the text using the 
keyboard.  You may find it easier to see what is happening if you 
first toggle on the display of nonprinting characters.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] trouble with attachments

2010-09-20 Thread Sam Swaminath
SIR,
WHEN I TRY, AFTER SOME TIME A 'POPUP' APEARS AS GIVEN BELOW:

MS VISUAL C++ ROUTINE LIBRARY- C/PROGRAM FILES/OPEN OFFICE
ORG3/PROGRAMME/soffice.bin

This aplication has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual
way.   Please contact the application's support team for more
information.
Thanks,
Sam
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker
gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 20/09/2010 10:49, Sam Swaminath wrote:

 Hi,
 I have MS Windows XP.  I also had Open Office 2.3.   I saw a popup asking
 for updating.  I clicked it and upgraded to Open Office 3.1.  Alas!!!  I
 am
 not able to open up any of my Files  Documents saved by Open Office 2.3.
 Another problem is the new version 3.1 has uninstalled the 2.3 version.
 Kindly advise me what to do.
 Thanks, with warm regards,
 Sam


 3.2.1 should be able to open prior version documents with ease. What
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Re: [users] OOo users at Linux Fest in Columbus Ohio

2010-09-20 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

 On 09/15/2010 10:44 AM, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
  
Wish I was there.  I lived there in the late 70's and early 80's.

Downtown not too big, but there was a lot of shopping malls
and you could find almost anything you needed for almost any
industry in one of those businesses and shops.

Did they have it in the big building in the state fair grounds?
They have/had one of the largest single floor building for such
events for 200-300 miles around.
It was held at the convention center that did not exist in the 70's and 
80's :-)


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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-20 Thread James Knott

jonathon wrote:

On 09/17/2010 11:15 AM, Avery, Stephen (Stephen) wrote:
   

so it could be time to reconsider the platforms you support.
 

OpenOffice.org is Free Libre Open Source So
For a version of OOo that runs on Android, what is needed is a
development team that will do the port, and recode around the various
obstacles in that pat

jonathon
   
OpenOffice.org would be a bit much to run on Android.  With smartphones, 
the screen size is quite small, in comparison with desktop computers and 
there's simply no room for the tool bars etc.  Android apps tend to have 
a very simple user interface, because of the limitations of the device.  
While a viewer might be doable, I'd hate to have do much while working 
with documents on it.


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Re: [users] Re: [ui-access] Question about OpenOffice.org from new user

2010-09-20 Thread James Knott
Of course OOo can save in Word format too.  There is also the plugin 
available that adds ODF support to MS Office.  As I understand it, it's 
far better than Microsoft's support of ODF.



Malte Timmermann wrote:

Hi Ann

(changing list to users@, since accessibility@ is wrong).

With using OOo and ODF, it's very likely that others can read you
documents, because anybody can download OOo, and many other applications
have support for ODF, even MS Office starting with 2007SP1.

Malte.

Ann Jones wrote, On 09/18/10 20:07:
   

Dear Sir/Madam,
I recently and successfully downloaded OOo software, simply so that recipients 
of my text documents are able to easily open my attachments.
Because my computer operates Windows Vista, which came with Works word 
processor built in, but I found that recipients of my attachments were unable 
to open my Works documents on their PCs, perhaps because they are using older 
versions of Windows, etc. ?
By now using OpenOffice.org word processing software, will different 
recipient's operating systems operators now be able to easily open my text 
attachments? Or do they first have to down load OpenOffice.org software?

Kind regards,

Ann Jones

 

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Re: [users] trouble with attachments

2010-09-20 Thread James Knott

Sam Swaminath wrote:

Hi,
I have MS Windows XP.  I also had Open Office 2.3.   I saw a popup asking
for updating.  I clicked it and upgraded to Open Office 3.1.  Alas!!!  I am
not able to open up any of my Files  Documents saved by Open Office 2.3.
Another problem is the new version 3.1 has uninstalled the 2.3 version.
Kindly advise me what to do.
   
Where did you get that update from?  The latest version is 3.2.1 and any 
v3.x should not remove any 1.x or 2.x installations.  It will, however, 
remove previous 3.x versions.  The best place to download OOo is 
www.openoffice.org.  Regardless, any 3.x version should be able to work 
with documents from any older version.  What happens when you try to 
open the older documents?



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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-20 Thread jonathon
On 09/20/2010 12:13 PM, James Knott wrote:

 the screen size is quite small, in comparison with desktop computers and

Do not ignore keitai shousetsu. Cell phone novels primarily read and
authored by young Japanese women, on the subject of romantic fiction
such as relationships, lovers, rape, love triangles, and pregnancy.

They have migrated elsewhere, both geographically, and in subject matter.

 Android apps tend to have a very simple user interface, because of the 
 limitations of the device. 

a) Androffice and QuickOffice Connect are two office suites currently
available for Android;

b) A version of MSO is available for the WinMo 6.x operating system.
Granted, the file format it produces is incompatible with that produced
by every other version of MSO, but that is to be expected, since
Microsoft's expertise is in writing software that is incompatible with
itself, as well as with everything else out there;

c) Softoffice is available for WindowsCE, amongst other mobile device
platforms;

d) Mobi Systems OfficeSuite4 is an office suite available for the
Symbian platform;

I'd hate to have do much while working with documents on it.

That probably has more to do with why the document is being worked with,
and the type of document that is being worked with.

jonathon
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Re: [users] Re: [ui-access] Question about OpenOffice.org from new user

2010-09-20 Thread Robert Jackson

 If you only want others to read your text, export it as a PDF.

Bob

On 20/09/2010 8:20 AM, James Knott wrote:
Of course OOo can save in Word format too.  There is also the plugin 
available that adds ODF support to MS Office.  As I understand it, 
it's far better than Microsoft's support of ODF.



Malte Timmermann wrote:

Hi Ann

(changing list to users@, since accessibility@ is wrong).

With using OOo and ODF, it's very likely that others can read you
documents, because anybody can download OOo, and many other applications
have support for ODF, even MS Office starting with 2007SP1.

Malte.

Ann Jones wrote, On 09/18/10 20:07:

Dear Sir/Madam,
I recently and successfully downloaded OOo software, simply so that 
recipients of my text documents are able to easily open my attachments.
Because my computer operates Windows Vista, which came with Works 
word processor built in, but I found that recipients of my 
attachments were unable to open my Works documents on their PCs, 
perhaps because they are using older versions of Windows, etc. ?
By now using OpenOffice.org word processing software, will different 
recipient's operating systems operators now be able to easily open 
my text attachments? Or do they first have to down load 
OpenOffice.org software?


Kind regards,

Ann Jones


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Re: [users] Re: [ui-access] Question about OpenOffice.org from new user

2010-09-20 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

 On 20/09/2010 13:20, James Knott wrote:
Of course OOo can save in Word format too.  There is also the plugin 
available that adds ODF support to MS Office.  As I understand it, 
it's far better than Microsoft's support of ODF.


It is much better - unfortunately unless you have a copy already, you 
now have to BUY it...


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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-20 Thread James Knott

jonathon wrote:

the screen size is quite small, in comparison with desktop computers and
 

Do not ignore keitai shousetsu. Cell phone novels primarily read and
authored by young Japanese women, on the subject of romantic fiction
such as relationships, lovers, rape, love triangles, and pregnancy.
   
I have read ebooks, along with web sites, news etc., on my Nexus One.  
It can be done, but it's tedious.  I much prefer to read such things on 
my desktop computer or notebook.





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Re: [users] OOo users at Linux Fest in Columbus Ohio

2010-09-20 Thread webmas...@krackedpress.com
On 09/20/2010 08:00 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
  On 09/15/2010 10:44 AM, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
   Wish I was there.  I lived there in the late 70's and early 80's.
 Downtown not too big, but there was a lot of shopping malls
 and you could find almost anything you needed for almost any
 industry in one of those businesses and shops.

 Did they have it in the big building in the state fair grounds?
 They have/had one of the largest single floor building for such
 events for 200-300 miles around.
 It was held at the convention center that did not exist in the 70's
 and 80's :-)

They were bound to add such a place in the city of the state capital.
If Elmira NY, a county seat with only 40k people, builds a convention
and sports center, Columbus would do one and better.

I would have loved to have been there, and maybe learned a thing or two.

Such events are great for sharing info about software like OpenOffice.org.
Would have been nice to see it covered by the local media and some
free advertisements for OOo as well.

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Re: [users] Re: Opening and referring to a Calc file online

2010-09-20 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2010-09-19 21:13:05 skrev Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com:


In news:aanlkti=kizvgjbsm8dn=bkhrjduxa=w7vn74=a=ng...@mail.gmail.com,
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com typed:

Does the lack of replies mean that this isn't really
possible or does
it only mean most people think that I am just too stupid?

Best regards

Johnny Rosenberg


Den 12 september 2010 18:47 skrev Johnny Rosenberg
gurus.knu...@gmail.com:

I have some space online from my Internet provider. I put
an OpenOffice.org Calc document there and it seems like I
can not open it from there. I guess I need some guiding
here. This is what I tried so far:

My operating system is Ubuntu 10.04 but I use the
b%1Dvanillab%1D version of OpenOffice.org, the most current
Swedish version, OOO320m12 (Build: 9483).

First I have tried to open other files from the same
place. Those were ordinary text files and they opened
properly with Gedit (a plain text editor) by double
clicking the file directly in my file manager (Nautilus).
When I do the same with my Calc document, OpenOffice.org
opens but I get an input/output error each time I try.
Double clicking a file on that place means that it will be
opened via ftp.

Next I tried to open it via http instead. That worked
well, but if I open a new document, type b%1D=b%1D in a cell
and then click a cell in the http opened document, the
formula refers to a temporary file in my web browser's
temp folder rather than to the file itself.

Well, this is what I want to achieve:

I want one cell in a local spreadsheet display the sum of
a document that I saved online, that's it.

I made an example document for this, located at:
http://hem.bredband.net/b619539/Test.ods

If I click b%1DPropertiesb%1D for the file in Nautilus (my
file manager) it says that it is located at:
ftp://b619...@ftp.bredband.net/

I guess that a password is required to reach it by ftp, so
that's maybe why I get an error when double clicking it.

Anyway, now I want to calculate the sum of all numbers in
my test document, but if I open a new spreadsheet and
click the SUM icon and then click the cells of my online
document, the cell contains this:

=SUM('file:///home/guraknugen/.opera/temporary_downloads/Test.ods'#$Tabell1.A2:A9)

And of course that's not what I want. I would guess that
something like this would work:
=SUM('http://hem.bredband.net/b619539/Test.ods'#$Tabell1.A2:A9)

However, it doesn't. The result is: b%1D#NAME?b%1D

Is this even possible, and if it is, what does the syntax
look like?

My test document will remain online for a while (it's just
a simple spreadsheet with a few numbers in some cells) so
feel free to try to make this work, if you want.

--
Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


Johnny,

The lack of replies from this particular newsgroup and based on my
experience, having been here for quite some time, would be that no one  
knows

a good answer to your query. In my own opinion, and if I had noticed your
post, I would have considered it nearly devoid of useful information to  
be

able to provide a good response. Quoted error messages, events after and
before any errors or the failure to work would have been useful too.


Well, the problem is that the error message is in Swedish, so I can't  
quote it exactly, but I'll give it a try:
”General input-/output error when accessing /home/guraknugen/.gvfs/ftp as  
b619539 at ftp.bredband.net/Test.ods”
Something like that. This happens when I double click the document in my  
ftp program, which also is my default file manager, called Nautilus.  
Nautilus is the default Gnome file manager, and my operating system is  
Ubuntu 10.04.



Many
are probably also wondering why you would try to edit a file still on the
server; unless you're in very special circumstances, that would be a
definite no-no because once you saved it back to the server, the original
would be lost to future visitors.


Well, it's just a place to have the file that both me and my wife can  
access. We have no local network (yet – I will fix that in a couple of  
years or so…) so this is a temporary solution. I am going to do add stuff  
to the file now and then, and she only need to sum some cells from it,  
therefore she will never need to open the file at all, only I will do that.


So basically, what I want to know is:
What would a formula look like in a cell in a local spreadsheet on her  
computer, that displays the sum of, let's say A2:A65536 in that external  
file?


   The normal process would be to download the file to your hard drive,  
edit

and save it there, and then do whatever you had planned to do with the
changed file. So, assuming you are serious about what you want to do, and
you are in a situation that would purposely allow that, I know I would  
have

no idea what to tell you, so responding would be a waste of time for both
you and I.
   This is a pretty good newsgroup and assuming you're accessing it with  
a
legitimate newsgroup reader, makes the question a little confusing, at  
least


[users] Re: Cassette Sleeve Template?

2010-09-20 Thread NoOp
On 09/16/2010 01:21 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 Can anyone point me at a template for Writer to create a sleeve for an old
 fashioned audio cassette - you know, the ones that came* in c60 (1 hour, 1/2
 hour per side), c90 and c120 for recording from one's radio? I've searched
 high and low but ...
 
 Ideally the template should have horizontal lines dividing the sleeve into 3
 sections (Title, Details and Footer) and a line down the middle dividing it
 for details of the two separate sides of the cassette. The size of the
 various sections is, of course, critical as the printed result has to be
 folded along those horizontal lines to fit 3 sides of the cassette box.
 
 * I use the past tense because I can't find anywhere in London that still
 sells them ...
 

Here's a local (UK):
http://www.uk.neato.com/TemplatesOther.aspx
They are even A4.



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