[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

2011-05-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
If you open AndrewMacro.odt in OOo 3.3 and then close the document, OOo 
will crash. This is because there are more than 32K (or is that 64K) 
style changes in the document. Note that this bug is fixed in OOo 3.4 I 
believe (or at least the dev versions that I have run contain the fix). 
At 100 pages, you are likely pretty safe. AndrewMacro.odt contains an 
extreme number of style changes because of color-coded program listings. 
This means that there may be hundreds of changes per page.


On 05/14/2011 02:28 PM, Adam wrote:
I've been reading with interest the thread on Crisis-Thesis 
Corrupted and just wondered, I have a document that is now 5Mb in 
size, 100 A4 pages and contains close to 40 images that is about 2 
days away from being completedis there any physical document size 
constraint or potential problems with large documents that I should be 
aware of? Or are there any precautions that can be recommended. I do 
regular backups but would just die if anything should happen to 
prevent me from successfully completing this document.


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[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

2011-05-15 Thread Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak 
and...@pitonyak.org wrote:

  If you open AndrewMacro.odt in OOo 3.3 and then close the document, OOo
 will crash. This is because there are more than 32K (or is that 64K) style
 changes in the document. Note that this bug is fixed in OOo 3.4 I believe
 (or at least the dev versions that I have run contain the fix). At 100
 pages, you are likely pretty safe. AndrewMacro.odt contains an extreme
 number of style changes because of color-coded program listings. This means
 that there may be hundreds of changes per page.

 On 05/14/2011 02:28 PM, Adam wrote:

 I've been reading with interest the thread on Crisis-Thesis Corrupted
 and just wondered, I have a document that is now 5Mb in size, 100 A4 pages
 and contains close to 40 images that is about 2 days away from being
 completedis there any physical document size constraint or potential
 problems with large documents that I should be aware of? Or are there any
 precautions that can be recommended. I do regular backups but would just die
 if anything should happen to prevent me from successfully completing this
 document.

 Thanks for nay feedback on this...

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Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. With all the footnotes and
cross references I would hate to have to split this document that I am now
working on into smaller docs so will continue and see how it goes. Taking
lots of backups and keeping fingers crossed.

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[users] Cross References

2011-05-15 Thread Adam
Sorry if this is a dumb question but as I am under the pump here and can't
work this out. I have noticed that when I add a cross reference a period is
added immediately after this in the document. Can someone please tell me how
can I stop this?

Appreciate the earliest response...

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[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

2011-05-15 Thread Hagar de l'Est


Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. With all the footnotes and cross 
references I would hate to have to split this document that I am now working on 
into smaller docs so will continue and see how it goes. Taking lots of backups 
and keeping fingers crossed.


Note that you can use the Master document feature if you're really worried.

Hagar
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[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

2011-05-15 Thread Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Hagar de l'Est 
hagar_de_l...@openoffice.org wrote:


 Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. With all the footnotes and
 cross references I would hate to have to split this document that I am now
 working on into smaller docs so will continue and see how it goes. Taking
 lots of backups and keeping fingers crossed.


 Note that you can use the Master document feature if you're really worried.


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The Master document feature!!! I'm sorry but I don't know what this is :(

Adam
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[users] Re: How to turn off automatic numbering permanently?

2011-05-15 Thread Brian Barker

At 19:28 14/05/2011 -0700, you wrote:
... now if I hit Enter at the end of a paragraph that is numbered 
Writer is assuming that I want the next paragraph numbered as well. 
I had this permanently turned off before, but now I can't find the 
setting in Tools  Options to turn it off permanently again.


That's because it's not in Tools | Options... !


Can someone please point out where the setting is?


Remove the tick from Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options | Apply 
numbering - symbol: *.


Incidentally, a quick way to disable this if you have the option 
ticked but don't want it on a particular occasion is to use Edit | 
Undo (or Ctrl+Z) immediately it happens.  This will undo the 
autocorrection but leave the normal effect of the keystroke which 
stimulated it - exactly what you want.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

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[users] Re: Odd Extension Offering

2011-05-15 Thread Bruce Lloyd

On 14/05/2011 5:42 AM, Hagar de l'Est wrote:
Try to remove the extension: 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=362#p362


Hagar
When I start Open Office in the top right hand corner is always a 
symbol which has the tool tip Extensions available - Click for more 
info That in itself is OK but when I click it it offers me French 
classic and Reform 1990 Spelling, thesaurus and hyphenation. Version 
4.1 That is all it ever offers me.


Thank you, followed those instructions for WIN7 and it worked perfectly

Problem solved

Regards
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[users] Re: How to turn off automatic numbering permanently?

2011-05-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:41:16 +0100
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

 but now I can't find the 
setting in Tools  Options to turn it off permanently again.

That's because it's not in Tools | Options... !

Can someone please point out where the setting is?

Remove the tick from Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options | Apply 
numbering - symbol: *.

Thanks!
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[users] Automatic URL recognition

2011-05-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories.

In Tools  AutoCorrect  Options I have unchecked URL Recognition, yet
Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there something
else that I need to uncheck somewhere?
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[users] Re: Automatic URL recognition

2011-05-15 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:22 15/05/2011 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:

OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories.

In Tools  AutoCorrect  Options I have unchecked URL Recognition, 
yet Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there 
something else that I need to uncheck somewhere?


There are two boxes against URL Recognition, one for typing and the 
other for modifying.  Have you unticked both - or the appropriate one 
for your purposes?


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

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[users] Re: Cross References

2011-05-15 Thread Mike Scott

On 15/05/2011 10:00, Adam wrote:

Sorry if this is a dumb question but as I am under the pump here and can't
work this out. I have noticed that when I add a cross reference a period is
added immediately after this in the document. Can someone please tell me how
can I stop this?

Appreciate the earliest response...



Never having used cross references before, I thought it would be a good 
idea to see how they work. So I followed the help file instructions for 
a text cross reference.


For me they work fine - no spurious dots or anything. That's OOo 
3.1.1/XP. Perhaps it might be worth your doing likewise on a dummy 
document to see if anything's different. Might give a clue.


Otherwise I think you'll need to give more information - /exactly/ how 
are you creating the fields, and /exactly/ what appears on screen (eg, a 
reference appears as a field, which has a grey background - is the dot 
part of this?) before you'll get help. Oh, and the OS/version; you never 
know. And maybe post a short example.


Sorry no actual solution!


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[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

2011-05-15 Thread Mike Scott

On 15/05/2011 11:38, Adam wrote:


The Master document feature!!! I'm sorry but I don't know what this is :(


The help file is a mine of handy information. Otherwise Google.

The master document feature allows a single document to be split over 
multiple files.



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[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

2011-05-15 Thread Hagar de l'Est

See 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Master_Documents

Hagar





On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Hagar de l'Est hagar_de_l...@openoffice.org 
mailto:hagar_de_l...@openoffice.org wrote:


Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. With all the footnotes and 
cross references I would hate to have to split this document that I am now 
working on into smaller docs so will continue and see how it goes. Taking lots 
of backups and keeping fingers crossed.


Note that you can use the Master document feature if you're really worried.


Hagar
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The Master document feature!!! I'm sorry but I don't know what this is :(

Adam


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[users] Inserting a page before a table

2011-05-15 Thread william drescher
I have a form that consists of one table.  The table starts at 
the very beginning of the page.  I can not figure out how to 
insert a new page before the table.  I can't get the cursor 
outside of the table at the top.


How ?

Thanks in advance.

Bill

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[users] hi from vienna

2011-05-15 Thread mwip
i just wanted to say - thanks for the open source possibility!!
i will donate later for sure

i got a netbook with MS win 7, starter edition...
word and excel on this program is in simple words - SHIT

so i got the info from a friend, that i should download open office, and
it worked

i am able to open .doc in open sourcemore features i am going to check
the next days.

thanks, and keep on doing what you do

greetings
maria
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[users] fake/phishing Openoffice site

2011-05-15 Thread David Evans
Hi - 
are you aware of any fake or phishing Openoffice download site?

I recently googled open office to find the download site.

The top return came back with
Openoffice 2011 download   and showing www.openoffice.org as the url address

yet when I followed the link, an address of www.openofficeonline2011.com was 
directed and opened.

The site appeared very ligit, offered many download buttons, yet displayed 
latest version as 3.1.1.

The download button directed to this address: 
www.openofficeonline2011.com/download.php

following the link to that address produced a blank page with brief message 
about page not available ...

I am concerned about any infection this site may have conveyed through clicking 
visiting it.

Thank you for your time.
I hope this heads up is useful to you as well.

David J. Evans
972 226-9847
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[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

2011-05-15 Thread jonathon
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On 15/05/2011 08:16, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

 If you open AndrewMacro.odt in OOo 3.3 and then close the document, OOo
 will crash. This is because there are more than 32K (or is that 64K)
 style changes in the document. Note that this bug is fixed in OOo 3.4 I
 believe (or at least the dev versions that I have run contain the fix).

Can you explain more than 32K style changes in the document in more
detail?

I don't remember ever having OOo crash because I was using too many styles.

Even in those documents that contained text in a hundred different
languages, and a dozen paragraph styles for each language.
IOW, text that used more than 1,000 paragraph styles, in addition to
umpteen hundred (¿500?) character styles, 30+ page styles, 100+ list
styles, and ten frame styles.

OOo was stable.

Saving the document to MS Word format, and then opening it with MSO on
Windows is a different story. It is trivial to create documents with OOo
on Windows, that when opened with MSO on Windows will cause an instant
Blue Screen of Death.

jonathon
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[users] Re: Inserting a page before a table

2011-05-15 Thread Richard Detwiler

On 5/14/2011 11:01 AM, william drescher wrote:
I have a form that consists of one table.  The table starts at the 
very beginning of the page.  I can not figure out how to insert a new 
page before the table.  I can't get the cursor outside of the table at 
the top.


How ?

Thanks in advance.

Bill



I'm using OOo version 3.1.1 (not the newest, I realize). I just tried it 
and found it to be simple: I put the insertion point to the left of the 
first character in the upper left hand cell of the table, and press 
Enter, and it moves the table down one line and puts the insertion point 
at the top of the page, outside of the table.


In some earlier version, I remember struggling to do that task, though.
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[users] Re: Inserting a page before a table

2011-05-15 Thread Jay Taunton
I tried it and it worked also. Just put the cursor to the far left in the first 
cell and press enter.

Jay Taunton



From: Richard Detwiler rldetwi...@frontiernet.net
To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: [users] Re: Inserting a page before a table

On 5/14/2011 11:01 AM, william drescher wrote:
 I have a form that consists of one table.  The table starts at the very 
 beginning of the page.  I can not figure out how to insert a new page before 
 the table.  I can't get the cursor outside of the table at the top.
 
 How ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Bill
 

I'm using OOo version 3.1.1 (not the newest, I realize). I just tried it and 
found it to be simple: I put the insertion point to the left of the first 
character in the upper left hand cell of the table, and press Enter, and it 
moves the table down one line and puts the insertion point at the top of the 
page, outside of the table.

In some earlier version, I remember struggling to do that task, though.
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[users] Re: Automatic URL recognition

2011-05-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:38:23 +0100
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 10:22 15/05/2011 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories.

In Tools  AutoCorrect  Options I have unchecked URL Recognition, 
yet Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there 
something else that I need to uncheck somewhere?

There are two boxes against URL Recognition, one for typing and the 
other for modifying.  Have you unticked both - or the appropriate one 
for your purposes?

Yes, both boxes are unchecked.

It does not underline and make clickable a link that I type. But if
there is a link in text copied and pasted into the Writer document it
still underlines it and makes it clickable. This happens even if I
paste special. The only way to get rid of it is to take the time to go
to Format  Default Formatting. Even just double-clicking on the
paragraph style in the Styles toolbar does not change it; I have to go
to Format  Default Formatting to get rid of it. It is time-consuming
and annoying, especially considering that I use Writer only for writing
academic papers that will be printed on paper. As far as I know there
is no way to click on a paper document, yet the underlining and colored
text still appear on the paper.
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[users] Re: Cross References

2011-05-15 Thread Adam
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.ukwrote:

 On 15/05/2011 10:00, Adam wrote:

 Sorry if this is a dumb question but as I am under the pump here and can't
 work this out. I have noticed that when I add a cross reference a period
 is
 added immediately after this in the document. Can someone please tell me
 how
 can I stop this?

 Appreciate the earliest response...


 Never having used cross references before, I thought it would be a good
 idea to see how they work. So I followed the help file instructions for a
 text cross reference.

 For me they work fine - no spurious dots or anything. That's OOo 3.1.1/XP.
 Perhaps it might be worth your doing likewise on a dummy document to see if
 anything's different. Might give a clue.

 Otherwise I think you'll need to give more information - /exactly/ how are
 you creating the fields, and /exactly/ what appears on screen (eg, a
 reference appears as a field, which has a grey background - is the dot part
 of this?) before you'll get help. Oh, and the OS/version; you never know.
 And maybe post a short example.

 Sorry no actual solution!


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Let me be more specific. My document has numbered paragraphs and if within
the text I add a cross reference to one of these paragraphs using Insert 
Cross r*e*ference...  Numbered Paragraphs and then select Number in the
Insert reference to option I get the following in the insertion point of my
text:

84. --- note the period

so what I want to do is add words like:

.see paragraph 84 above.

where 84 has been inserted with the cross reference function but I am
getting (note the period after the 84

.see paragraph 84. above.

suggesting that the sentence has ended after the 84.

Hope this clarifies.

Adam
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[users] Re: Problem with Cross-Reference

2011-05-15 Thread Adam
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote:

 Adam wrote:



 On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:53 PM, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net
 mailto:rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:

Adam wrote:

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, RA Brown
rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net mailto:rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net


Are you by chance saving to .doc format?


Yes is that a problem :(

I need to save it in.doc format as my firm uses MS Word

Adam



Yes, it can be very much of a problem.  The MS formats were closed
and had to be reversed engineered to get what is available.  The
ability to create MS formats is better in OOo then MS's ability to
create ODF formats.  You should also ways save in the native ODF
format and only save as MS format just to send a copy to someone else.

If you really need 100% compatibility then you really need MSO.

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available for others **



 So just to clarify, if I save in native ODF format and only save as MS
 format just to send a copy to someone else, when I do send it to others
 they will see the correct cross-references! Appreciate if you could
 confirm this otherwise I may end up in a real mess.

 Thanks

 Adam


 The only way to verify that is to test it, on each file.  Some of the
 formating will 'stick' others will not.  There are file viewers for MS
 formated documents from MS.  If your running a version of Windows you can
 use those to see if the documents come out the way you want.



Funnily enough if I use the Page number instead of the paragraph number in
cross references it works fine. That is

Instead of using Insert  Cross r*e*ference...  Numbered Paragraphs and
then selecting Number in the Insert reference to option

If you use Insert  Cross r*e*ference...  Numbered Paragraphs and then
select Page in the Insert reference to option

then your document is saved with correct cross references.

I sense that this is a relatively easy bug to fix and would enable better
and safer functionality when needing to work with partners using MS Word.

Adam
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[users] Re: Automatic URL recognition

2011-05-15 Thread RA Brown

John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:38:23 +0100
Brian Barkerb.m.bar...@btinternet.com  dijo:


At 10:22 15/05/2011 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:

OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories.

In Tools  AutoCorrect  Options I have unchecked URL Recognition,
yet Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there
something else that I need to uncheck somewhere?


There are two boxes against URL Recognition, one for typing and the
other for modifying.  Have you unticked both - or the appropriate one
for your purposes?


Yes, both boxes are unchecked.

It does not underline and make clickable a link that I type. But if
there is a link in text copied and pasted into the Writer document it
still underlines it and makes it clickable. This happens even if I
paste special. The only way to get rid of it is to take the time to go
to Format  Default Formatting. Even just double-clicking on the
paragraph style in the Styles toolbar does not change it; I have to go
to Format  Default Formatting to get rid of it. It is time-consuming
and annoying, especially considering that I use Writer only for writing
academic papers that will be printed on paper. As far as I know there
is no way to click on a paper document, yet the underlining and colored
text still appear on the paper.


I think you will find that what your looking for by looking at the 
Character styles for Internet Link.  That controls the color and 
underline, which is what is showing up when printed.  It will still be 
clickable in Writer bu will not show as a link.


Andy
HTH
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