[users] BASE - Form-Problem

2008-04-15 Thread Frank Häusler

Hello !

I created a simple database from an excel-sheet.
Now I created a form with the wizard == ok.
When I double-click the form to use it for data entry it does not work.
The opened Writer-Document shows in the title-bar the name I gave to the 
form and the additional text (schreibgeschützt) english: (read only).
I did not set any option in the wizard that the data is for read only 
use. The database-file and the spreadsheet-file are not write-protected 
and I have full write-access through the filesystem to them.


I'm using OOO 2.4.0 ; Windoze XP 64

Has anyone any idea ?? You are welcome.

Best regards

Frank Häusler


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Re: [users] BASE - Form-Problem

2008-04-15 Thread Brian Barker

At 19:43 15/04/2008 +0200, Frank Häusler wrote:

I created a simple database from an excel-sheet.
Now I created a form with the wizard == ok.
When I double-click the form to use it for data entry it does not work.
The opened Writer-Document shows in the 
title-bar the name I gave to the form and the 
additional text (schreibgeschützt) english: (read only).


I don't think this is a problem.  The read-only 
attribute applies, I think, to the *format* of 
the form, not its contents.  It prevents the user 
changing the appearance or layout of the form, 
but it doesn't prevent the insertion of data and 
its saving to tables in the database.


I don't suppose anyone can help you if all you 
say is that entering data does not work.  One 
possibility, of course, is that the combination 
of fields that you have included in the form 
prevents you from adding essential data.  If, for 
example, you have a field that is marked as 
Entry required but it does not appear in the 
form, then you will not be able to enter new 
records.  This applies in particular to the 
primary key; you can avoid the problem in that 
case by setting this to AutoValue.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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Re: [users] BASE - Form-Problem

2008-04-15 Thread Drew Jensen

Brian Barker wrote:

At 19:43 15/04/2008 +0200, Frank Häusler wrote:

I created a simple database from an excel-sheet.
Now I created a form with the wizard == ok.
When I double-click the form to use it for data entry it does not work.
The opened Writer-Document shows in the title-bar the name I gave to 
the form and the additional text (schreibgeschützt) english: (read 
only).


I don't think this is a problem.  The read-only attribute applies, I 
think, to the *format* of the form, not its contents.  It prevents the 
user changing the appearance or layout of the form, but it doesn't 
prevent the insertion of data and its saving to tables in the database.


I don't suppose anyone can help you if all you say is that entering 
data does not work. 


Hello Frank, Brian

Well, the bottom line is simply this. Base files that use spreadsheet 
data for the data source are read only. It has nothing to do with the 
use of a form - just opening a table object in this Base file would 
render a read only result set also.


What Brian describes regarding the 'Read-only-ness' of the form is 
absolutely correct but, as I say, in this specific case of not relevant.


Drew

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Re: [users] BASE - Form-Problem

2008-04-15 Thread Brian Barker

At 18:12 15/04/2008 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote:

Brian Barker wrote:

At 19:43 15/04/2008 +0200, Frank Häusler wrote:

I created a simple database from an excel-sheet.
Now I created a form with the wizard == ok.
When I double-click the form to use it for data entry it does not work.
The opened Writer-Document shows in the 
title-bar the name I gave to the form and the 
additional text (schreibgeschützt) english: (read only).


I don't think this is a problem.  The 
read-only attribute applies, I think, to the 
*format* of the form, not its contents.  It 
prevents the user changing the appearance or 
layout of the form, but it doesn't prevent the 
insertion of data and its saving to tables in the database.


I don't suppose anyone can help you if all you 
say is that entering data does not work.


Hello Frank, Brian

Well, the bottom line is simply this. Base files 
that use spreadsheet data for the data source 
are read only. It has nothing to do with the use 
of a form - just opening a table object in this 
Base file would render a read only result set also.


What Brian describes regarding the 
'Read-only-ness' of the form is absolutely 
correct but, as I say, in this specific case of not relevant.


Drew


What you say certainly applies to a database 
created by *connecting* to a spreadsheet.  But I 
had taken the original questioner's description 
of creat[ing] a simple database from an 
excel-sheet to include the possibility that he 
had pasted spreadsheet data into the database to 
create a table.  In this case, the table itself 
should not be read-only and the form should allow 
data entry, I think.  My experimentation certainly suggests so.


And that may be his solution: he should copy the 
spreadsheet data and paste it in (into the Tables 
panel of the database so as to create a new 
table) rather than connecting the database to the original spreadsheet.


Brian Barker


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