Re: [users] Q Re: StarOffice 9 Released today
jonathon wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:18, Web Kracked wrote: creation of large files, i.e. 400-500 page books. He also write some micros that makes his work easier. What they are and do, I never read that information. Does he describe them in his blog? A google search didn't come up with anything. :( jonathon All of my information started with the author's notes at the end of his books, plus his online newsletters. He usually writes several pages about what was going on in his life while writing the book(s). I have been reading his works for over 20 years. He has been writing for many year before that. I just added his use of OOo for large works. If OOo works with book/novel size projects, then it will handle our smaller formatted text files. I use as many free and open source software as I can find for my work. OOo has been part of that policy since the days of the 1.x version. I just want to make a point on the how large of a project OOo can do, and does. Tim L. New York State, USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.6/1797 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 11:23 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Q Re: StarOffice 9 Released today
Fred A. Miller wrote: Web Kracked wrote: Tim L. Working with computers since 1978 and have asked a lot of dumb questions over the years to get my three degrees. Humph!! I've been working with them since '80 and also asked a lot of dumb questions. But, where's my 3 degrees? ;) Fred Well Fred, those three degrees were over given after I completed three college stints. I studied hard, tutored several courses, setup a network lab, created a complete general ledger accounting system, plus a whole lot of money. During those years in the 80's and 90's, I asked and answered a lot of "dumb questions". Also, if I wanted, I could take my degrees and pay the fees and maybe take a few more courses, then get a "bigger" degree from New York State, USA. NYS Department of Education has this "degree upgrade" service. Well that may be in the future, but not soon. So Fred, I started programming in 1978 and worked for what education I have. BUT, after my first strokes, I lost most of what I had learned from my first two degrees. After I recovered from that, I went and got my third degree. Then the spring of 2007, I had my second stroke. That one did not take as much memory away from me. Now I am totally disabled with debilitating back injury and scare tissue next to my spine. This developed from a work related injury. So, I have paid my dues for education and working. Now I work with many not for profit organizations and other businesses and people. Payments can be few and far between, but I still work as much as I can. It is worth while to help those who need a computer person to help them and teach them how to do their needed computer tasks. Mostly, I prefer to help the not for profit organizations that work with adults with disabilities, as I am myself. Plus I like tend to work with historical organizations. Then there are the individuals and small businesses. All of these "clients" accept that I have disabilities that need to be worked around and work on my limited daily time schedule. I wish no one to go through what I have. I get upset and "other things" when someone jokes about getting education. So if this makes you mad, or makes you wonder why I have placed this on this list, please forgive me. Too many of the people I deal have developmental troubles and will never be able to get a good education with the current social environment. They are denied a proper education, even to a high school level because the money is not available, even though State and Federal law and mandates require the local educational school board to provide them the education we "normal" students get in grades 1 - 12. I deal with some adults that got their education from people that are not part of the school system. I.E. family and workers in group homes and other facilities where they live. So, I apologies for venting here. But too many people in the USA and around the world never a chance to get the education our children complain about. Tim L. Disabled "computer person" and advocate for adults with disabilities. Plus a long winded person when he gets started on a topic he is concerned about. Thank you for reading this and apologies for my venting. [=][?] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.6/1797 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 11:23 AM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Q Re: StarOffice 9 Released today
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:18, Web Kracked wrote: > creation of large files, i.e. 400-500 page books. He also write some micros > that makes his work easier. What they are and do, I never read that > information. Does he describe them in his blog? A google search didn't come up with anything. :( jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Q Re: StarOffice 9 Released today
Web Kracked wrote: > > > > Twayne wrote: > >> "They" say there is no dumb question except the one that doesn't get >> asked. Let's test that out. >> >> Historically, I came to OO.o from StarOffice long, long ago. In fact >> in my blissful ignorance I didn't ever realize they weren't the same >> thing for a long time, 'way back when'. If they were the same thing >> at that time. >> >> > >> TIA, >> >> Twayne >> > > I wonder how many people have switched from the paid StarOffice to the > free OpenOffice.org > > I know, from his author's notes and newsletters, that Piers Anthony > [ SciFi and Fantasy writer] switched from Microsoft to StarOffice, > then to OpenOffice.org, over the years. He also switched to Linux > as well. I remember something about his switching from StarOffice > to OOo when it was in its 1.x version(s). I switched to OOo as well > during the 1.x [1.1.x? 1.2.x?] and have used it ever since. > > I know that if a writer, who writes up to 5 novels a year, uses OOo > for his writing/typing of works, it must be a good product for the > creation of large files, i.e. 400-500 page books. He also write some > micros that makes his work easier. What they are and do, I never > read that information. He also is over 65 [maybe over 70], so he has > a lot of time to find the best software to use to write his "text". > > So Twayne, thank you for you "dumb question". I also think there > is no dumb question. I had a professor that would not answer any > question that was "dumb" in her standards. Many students turned > to other professors to answer their "dumb questions". > Thanks to everyone on this list to answer our questions, "dumb", > highly technical, or somewhere in between. Thanks again. > > Tim L. > Working with computers since 1978 and have asked a lot of dumb > questions over the years to get my three degrees. Humph!! I've been working with them since '80 and also asked a lot of dumb questions. But, where's my 3 degrees? ;) Fred -- "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson, 1802 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Q Re: StarOffice 9 Released today
Twayne wrote: "They" say there is no dumb question except the one that doesn't get asked. Let's test that out. Historically, I came to OO.o from StarOffice long, long ago. In fact in my blissful ignorance I didn't ever realize they weren't the same thing for a long time, 'way back when'. If they were the same thing at that time. TIA, Twayne I wonder how many people have switched from the paid StarOffice to the free OpenOffice.org I know, from his author's notes and newsletters, that Piers Anthony [ SciFi and Fantasy writer] switched from Microsoft to StarOffice, then to OpenOffice.org, over the years. He also switched to Linux as well. I remember something about his switching from StarOffice to OOo when it was in its 1.x version(s). I switched to OOo as well during the 1.x [1.1.x? 1.2.x?] and have used it ever since. I know that if a writer, who writes up to 5 novels a year, uses OOo for his writing/typing of works, it must be a good product for the creation of large files, i.e. 400-500 page books. He also write some micros that makes his work easier. What they are and do, I never read that information. He also is over 65 [maybe over 70], so he has a lot of time to find the best software to use to write his "text". So Twayne, thank you for you "dumb question". I also think there is no dumb question. I had a professor that would not answer any question that was "dumb" in her standards. Many students turned to other professors to answer their "dumb questions". Thanks to everyone on this list to answer our questions, "dumb", highly technical, or somewhere in between. Thanks again. Tim L. Working with computers since 1978 and have asked a lot of dumb questions over the years to get my three degrees. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1795 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Q Re: StarOffice 9 Released today
Twayne wrote: http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-11/sunflash.20081117.1.xml Unfortunately, it is no longer free for students & educators: http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/faqs.jsp#g4 7. Q: What are the pricing changes to StarOffice 9 Software? A: There are four key changes: * Subscription pricing added as an option, subscriptions include license, support and indemnification. * Education pricing is no longer free. * Download price is $34.95. * Manufactured Suggested Retail Price is $54.95. \... IV. For Education 1. Q: If I'm an education customer and I want a free office suite, what are my options? A: Education users can use OpenOffice.org 3.0, which has the same functionality as StarOffice 9 Software, or continue using StarOffice 8 Software, which remains no-charge. So get ready... we're likely to find a lot more students/teachers, et al asking questions on this list shortly. "They" say there is no dumb question except the one that doesn't get asked. Let's test that out. Historically, I came to OO.o from StarOffice long, long ago. In fact in my blissful ignorance I didn't ever realize they weren't the same thing for a long time, 'way back when'. If they were the same thing at that time. If StarOffice and OO.o3 has the "same functionality", and StarOffice is now a pay-for (which I don't necessarily disagree with in any way), then what am I getting with StarOffice that I miss with OO.o 3? No, I am not looking to switch; in fact, I plan to donate again to OO.o for this latest great accomplishment. In fact, I would think that OO.o is about to the point it could withstand a pay-for change and it wouldn't bother me a bit as long as it wasn't done like a Microsoft wanna-be. Admittedly I have NOT compared the two yet; on purpose. I'm already prejudiced FOR OO.o, so the hype at SO is ripe for me to misinterpret or misunderstand. Therefore, I thought I'd ask this here, BEFORE I visited there. I do plan to visit however, and will likely ask the same question there, just for comparison and a little of the other side of the story. TIA, Twayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I’m no expert, but AFAIK there are only two main differences between OpenOffice.org and Star Office. (1) Base is different because some of the code in the original Star Base did not belong to Sun and was never released to open source. (Whether there are features or behaviors or quirks that one or the other has or lacks, I don’t know, or care.) (2) Star Office comes with support. I have had such poor experiences with tech support for most of the stuff I have paid for, that I just assume paid tech support does not exist. Therefore, for me, there is no difference. I believe this is the case for nearly all people. Am I biased? Maybe. Am I too cheap to pay for something when I can get it for nothing? You betcha. ——Eli - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Q Re: StarOffice 9 Released today
> http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-11/sunflash.20081117.1.xml > > Unfortunately, it is no longer free for students & educators: > http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/faqs.jsp#g4 > > 7. Q: What are the pricing changes to StarOffice 9 Software? > A: There are four key changes: > >* Subscription pricing added as an option, subscriptions include > license, support and indemnification. >* Education pricing is no longer free. >* Download price is $34.95. >* Manufactured Suggested Retail Price is $54.95. > \... > IV. For Education > 1. Q: If I'm an education customer and I want a free office suite, > what are my options? > A: Education users can use OpenOffice.org 3.0, which has the same > functionality as StarOffice 9 Software, or continue using StarOffice 8 > Software, which remains no-charge. > > > So get ready... we're likely to find a lot more students/teachers, et > al asking questions on this list shortly. "They" say there is no dumb question except the one that doesn't get asked. Let's test that out. Historically, I came to OO.o from StarOffice long, long ago. In fact in my blissful ignorance I didn't ever realize they weren't the same thing for a long time, 'way back when'. If they were the same thing at that time. If StarOffice and OO.o3 has the "same functionality", and StarOffice is now a pay-for (which I don't necessarily disagree with in any way), then what am I getting with StarOffice that I miss with OO.o 3? No, I am not looking to switch; in fact, I plan to donate again to OO.o for this latest great accomplishment. In fact, I would think that OO.o is about to the point it could withstand a pay-for change and it wouldn't bother me a bit as long as it wasn't done like a Microsoft wanna-be. Admittedly I have NOT compared the two yet; on purpose. I'm already prejudiced FOR OO.o, so the hype at SO is ripe for me to misinterpret or misunderstand. Therefore, I thought I'd ask this here, BEFORE I visited there. I do plan to visit however, and will likely ask the same question there, just for comparison and a little of the other side of the story. TIA, Twayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
