[users] OTL files - Out Text files?
Here is a question. I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file. It is an Outline Text type of document. Using NoteTab Light, I get a "frame" that has the Books listed and a "frame" with the Book's verses. Click on the Book and it brings up its verses, not any other part of the OTL file. In OOo, I read in the OTL file and it becomes one continuous page, no outlines. Has anyone worked with an OTL file? Is there a way to read in an Outlined Text document into OOo and get the correct formated sections? At 58,307 lines in the file, it is much easier to show it in the "Outline" format, then one continuous page. it uses inline commands in the documents like; = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30 H="King James Bible" H=" Genesis" Personally, I have never see such a document. I wonder if it is a format that began it the DOS days or an early word processing DOS Text format. I can send you directly the file and an image what it looks like. Or I can send you the files plus NoteTab Light. (you can download NoteTab Light from www.downloads.com) Windows NotePad does not show it. Neither does: EmEditor, OpenOffice.org Write, and MS Word. Only NoteTab Light so far. XP does not even associate that file to NoteTab Light. I had to make the association. I always try to read unknow file formats in that text editor as my default option. I use OpenOffice.org for my "Office stuff", KompoZer for my "HTML stuff", NoteTab Light for my "plain text stuff" like Cascading Style Sheets and JavaScripts for web sites or just plain TXT files types. SO can anyone help? Anyone used OTL files before? Anyway to get OOo to have one "frame" show the Outline Headings and another to show the text of that "outlined section"? Tim L. (web at work) who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move.
Re: [users] OTL files - Out Text files?
Original Message From: web at work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:17:07 -0400 > Here is a question. > I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file. > It is an Outline Text type of document. > > Using NoteTab Light, I get a "frame" that has the > Books listed and a "frame" with the Book's verses. > Click on the Book and it brings up its verses, not any > other part of the OTL file. > > In OOo, I read in the OTL file and it becomes one > continuous page, no outlines. > > Has anyone worked with an OTL file? > Is there a way to read in an Outlined Text document into > OOo and get the correct formated sections? > At 58,307 lines in the file, it is much easier to show > it in the "Outline" format, then one continuous page. > > it uses inline commands in the documents like; > > = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30 > > > > H="King James Bible" > > > > H=" Genesis" > > > Personally, I have never see such a document. > I wonder if it is a format that began it the DOS days > or an early word processing DOS Text format. > > I can send you directly the file and an image what it looks > like. Or I can send you the files plus NoteTab Light. > (you can download NoteTab Light from www.downloads.com) > > Windows NotePad does not show it. Neither does: > EmEditor, OpenOffice.org Write, and MS Word. > Only NoteTab Light so far. XP does not even associate > that file to NoteTab Light. I had to make the association. > I always try to read unknow file formats in that text editor > as my default option. > > I use OpenOffice.org for my "Office stuff", KompoZer for my "HTML stuff", > NoteTab Light for my "plain text stuff" like Cascading Style Sheets and > JavaScripts for web sites or just plain TXT files types. > > SO can anyone help? > Anyone used OTL files before? > Anyway to get OOo to have one "frame" show the Outline Headings > and another to show the text of that "outlined section"? > > Tim L. (web at work) > who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move. OTL is the file extension that Eric G.V. Fookes (Fookes Software) chose to identify the "OuTLine" feature he built into the NoteTab software. These are just plain text, with no embedded formatting codes in the true sense. Other than the presence of the first line in an OTL file and the equal sign, used as a tag by the NoteTab software, there is nothing special about these text files. In fact if you open one in any other plain text editor (eg. Windows Notepad), remove just the first line (eg." = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30") and save it, NoteTab will open it as it would any other plain text file, with no side panel. The side panel displaying the headings/"Books" is hard coded into NoteTab. So there is no reason why OOo, or any other software should display these files as anything other than plain text. Unless, for some reason, that other software is emulating NoteTab. I have a few ideas how something similar might be replicated in Writer and somebody (not me), with the necessary skills, could possibly even write an otl to odt converter. However, I don't see this as an award winning feature for OOo. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OTL files - Out Text files?
From: "Dave Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: web at work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:17:07 -0400 Here is a question. I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file. It is an Outline Text type of document. SO can anyone help? Anyone used OTL files before? Anyway to get OOo to have one "frame" show the Outline Headings and another to show the text of that "outlined section"? Tim L. (web at work) who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move. OTL is the file extension that Eric G.V. Fookes (Fookes Software) chose to identify the "OuTLine" feature he built into the NoteTab software. These are just plain text, with no embedded formatting codes in the true sense. Other than the presence of the first line in an OTL file and the equal sign, used as a tag by the NoteTab software, there is nothing special about these text files. In fact if you open one in any other plain text editor (eg. Windows Notepad), remove just the first line (eg." = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30") and save it, NoteTab will open it as it would any other plain text file, with no side panel. The side panel displaying the headings/"Books" is hard coded into NoteTab. So there is no reason why OOo, or any other software should display these files as anything other than plain text. Unless, for some reason, that other software is emulating NoteTab. I have a few ideas how something similar might be replicated in Writer and somebody (not me), with the necessary skills, could possibly even write an otl to odt converter. However, I don't see this as an award winning feature for OOo. Dave So I lucked out with reading them in the proper program after all. I do like the Outline Headings displayed in the left site panel. I would love to be able to use some printing software to make a PDF file that includes the Outline Headings. PDF's can have chapter outlines, etc., but I never learned how to make them. That is the feature that I like. over 1500 printed pages and they are indexed/outlined for easier use and/or viewing. Great Idea. The strange thing, since the OTL file was created for NoteTab, was the fact that that file format was not associated with NoteTab [light] and I had to "make it associate with" it after it was able to be opened by NoteTab. Well I have seen stranger. Thanks for the help. ALSO at least this list email got through. It seems my service is randomly bouncing some of these list-emails back to the list-server system. I get that notice once a week or more. My service puts the blame on the list-server, not their email server that is bouncing the emails back as unwanted or unable to be delivered. Thanks everyone. This is still a great place to get information. Plus Version 3.0 is a great product, and faster to load than 2.x. Slower to get its first screen up vs. Word, but then it takes 2-3 minutes before Word lets me ask it to open a file or type in new stuff. OOo/writer does not make we wait that long to start working. Tim L. retired, but working harder now than ever. plus burning 30-50 OO 3.0 cd this past week and more next week for those dialup users locally. Free of charge or a donation to the cause. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OTL files - Out Text files?
web at work wrote: > > > From: "Dave Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> From: web at work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:17:07 -0400 >> >>> Here is a question. >>> I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file. >>> It is an Outline Text type of document. > >>> >>> SO can anyone help? >>> Anyone used OTL files before? >>> Anyway to get OOo to have one "frame" show the Outline Headings >>> and another to show the text of that "outlined section"? >>> >>> Tim L. (web at work) >>> who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move. >> >> OTL is the file extension that Eric G.V. Fookes (Fookes Software) chose >> to identify the "OuTLine" feature he built into the NoteTab software. >> These are just plain text, with no embedded formatting codes in the true >> sense. Other than the presence of the first line in an OTL file and the >> equal sign, used as a tag by the NoteTab software, there is nothing >> special about these text files. In fact if you open one in any other >> plain text editor (eg. Windows Notepad), remove just the first line >> (eg." = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30") and save it, >> NoteTab will open it as it would any other plain text file, with no side >> panel. >> >> The side panel displaying the headings/"Books" is hard coded into >> NoteTab. So there is no reason why OOo, or any other software should >> display these files as anything other than plain text. Unless, for some >> reason, that other software is emulating NoteTab. >> >> I have a few ideas how something similar might be replicated in Writer >> and somebody (not me), with the necessary skills, could possibly even >> write an otl to odt converter. However, I don't see this as an award >> winning feature for OOo. >> >> Dave >> >> > So I lucked out with reading them in the proper program after all. > I do like the Outline Headings displayed in the left site panel. I would > love to be able to use some printing software to make a PDF file that > includes the Outline Headings. PDF's can have chapter outlines, etc., > but I never learned how to make them. > > That is the feature that I like. over 1500 printed pages and they are > indexed/outlined for easier use and/or viewing. Great Idea. > > The strange thing, since the OTL file was created for NoteTab, was > the fact that that file format was not associated with NoteTab [light] > and I had to "make it associate with" it after it was able to be opened > by NoteTab. Well I have seen stranger. > > Thanks for the help. > > ALSO at least this list email got through. It seems my service > is randomly bouncing some of these list-emails back to the list-server > system. I get that notice once a week or more. My service puts the > blame on the list-server, not their email server that is > bouncing the emails back as unwanted or unable to be delivered. > > Thanks everyone. > This is still a great place to get information. > Plus Version 3.0 is a great product, and faster to load > than 2.x. Slower to get its first screen up vs. Word, but > then it takes 2-3 minutes before Word lets me ask it to > open a file or type in new stuff. OOo/writer does not make > we wait that long to start working. > > Tim L. > retired, but working harder now than ever. > plus burning 30-50 OO 3.0 cd this past week > and more next week for those dialup users locally. > Free of charge or a donation to the cause. GREAT! Keep up the good work! Fred -- "Politicians and diapers need to be changed regularly -- and for the same reason." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
