Re: [users] Variable page headlines
John wrote: ... which means that you don't particularly /need/ the frame, because the header is just a special frame (special in the sense that it (a) has a default page-anchored position [top of page] and (b) repeats). That’s true. When I realised this I abandoned my attempts with a frame and returned to testing with the header itself. To no avail. Is there a predictable 1-1 relationship between page number and header content? No: every header will be different. Would it make sense to maintain your content in a database and generate the document from the database? I’m afraid that databases are far beyond me. I have years of experience with word-processing and with page layout, but I’ve never made or used a database and wouldn’t know how. Also, the content of the proposed headers is apparent only at the last moment, after the pagination is finished, as it is based on whatever happens to be on each page. I have to leave it aside for a while, but I’m reconciling myself to placing individual text frames on each page. Thanks again to all. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines -- re-wording
Jonathon wrote: The simpler solution is to use the extension that creates running headers, That sounds promising, but I couldn’t find this extension. Tell me more! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Thanks to all for help and suggestions. I’ve tried various options, but none of them work. If I’m not mistaken, to have different text in the same position on each page requires the use of text frames; to have frames automatically positioned at the top of each page requires the use of headers . . . but anything that goes into headers, even if inside a text frame, will be replicated on all pages. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: Thanks to all for help and suggestions. I’ve tried various options, but none of them work. If I’m not mistaken, to have different text in the same position on each page requires the use of text frames; to have frames automatically positioned at the top of each page requires the use of headers . . . but anything that goes into headers, even if inside a text frame, will be replicated on all pages. Did you try a next page style for the second and subsequent pages? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: What do you need to have be different in each header? It’s an alphabetically arranged book, somewhat like a dictionary, in which a “catchword” (for example the first three letters of the first or the last headword on the page) appears in the header. This means having to type these individually after the page layout is complete. I’ve poked around in Insert Fields Other but haven’t been able to select (or create) a category that allows the text of every header to be different while retaining the style. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Maybe this has been suggested, but I think you can do what you want with variable fields. Choose a name for the variable that will contain your vary text, something like Catchword. Insert a Set variable field for the variable on the page before the catchword needs to appear (you'll probably want that field to be checked as invisible). Insert a Show variable field for that variable in the header of your page style. You'll have to have a Set variable field for the catchword on every page, to establish it for the Show variable field in the header of the following page. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Joe wrote: Did you try a next page style for the second and subsequent pages? I already have two page styles, for left and right pages (mirroring margins and the position of page numbers). Each style calls the other as “next” (thus alternating right and left pages). I can add a text frame to headers in both page styles (also mirrored); but as soon as I enter any text in a right-hand page it is copied into every other right-hand page. Or am I missing something? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Troll/Idiot [I’m sure you’re neither] wrote: Maybe this has been suggested, but I think you can do what you want with variable fields . . . Sounds promising (and complicated). I’ll certainly try it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
In a message dated 2009.11.24 16:30 -0500, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: ... If I’m not mistaken, to have different text in the same position on each page requires the use of text frames; to have frames automatically positioned at the top of each page requires the use of headers . . . ... which means that you don't particularly /need/ the frame, because the header is just a special frame (special in the sense that it (a) has a default page-anchored position [top of page] and (b) repeats). However, a more general purpose frame, as opposed to a header, might be convenient. Is there a predictable 1-1 relationship between page number and header content? Would it make sense to maintain your content in a database and generate the document from the database? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines -- re-wording
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 16:23, William Case wrote: I think I understand what the OP wants. If I am correct it is not unreasonable. The simpler solution is to use the extension that creates running headers, jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Variable page headlines
In a layout for publishing (Openoffice 3.1.1, Debian GNU/Linux) I need to have page headlines that are different on every page. I have inserted headers in left-hand and right-hand page styles, and set an appropriate paragraph style for the content; but when I type a page headline on any page it is copied to all left-hand pages (or all right-hand pages, as the case may be). I hope I’m overlooking some simple setting. Any help appreciated. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: In a layout for publishing (Openoffice 3.1.1, Debian GNU/Linux) I need to have page headlines that are different on every page. I have inserted headers in left-hand and right-hand page styles, and set an appropriate paragraph style for the content; but when I type a page headline on any page it is copied to all left-hand pages (or all right-hand pages, as the case may be). I hope I’m overlooking some simple setting. Any help appreciated. What do you need to have be different in each header? Generally speaking, what you need is to click in the header and use Insert Fields to select the content you want. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
In a message dated 2009.11.23 08:19 -0500, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: ... I need to have page headlines that are different on every page. I have inserted headers in left-hand and right-hand page styles ... but when I type a page headline on any page it is copied to all left-hand pages (or all right-hand pages, as the case may be). Séamas, I must be misunderstanding the question: Isn't copied to all left-hand pages (or all right-hand pages, as the case may be) exactly what it /means/ to have headers in left-hand and right-hand page styles? OTOH, if you really want headlines that are different on *every* page, do you want headers? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Barbara Duprey wrote: Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: In a layout for publishing (Openoffice 3.1.1, Debian GNU/Linux) I need to have page headlines that are different on every page. I have inserted headers in left-hand and right-hand page styles, and set an appropriate paragraph style for the content; but when I type a page headline on any page it is copied to all left-hand pages (or all right-hand pages, as the case may be). I hope I’m overlooking some simple setting. Any help appreciated. What do you need to have be different in each header? Generally speaking, what you need is to click in the header and use Insert Fields to select the content you want. Maybe there's some confusion in terminology? The OP uses two terms, headlines and headers. I'm not sure if Seamas is using those interchangeably or not -- they certainly are not at all equivalent. If headers is really what is meant by headlines, I'm not sure I understand the objective of having headers that are different on every page. Isn't the point of a header that there is basically the same thing on all pages of that style? (With possible differences being, for example, the page number.) So maybe headlines is really more what is meant, and the OP is confusing headers with a way of achieving headlines? So I think we need some clarification from the OP as to what the goal is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
What do you need to have be different in each header? It’s an alphabetically arranged book, somewhat like a dictionary, in which a “catchword” (for example the first three letters of the first or the last headword on the page) appears in the header. This means having to type these individually after the page layout is complete. I’ve poked around in Insert Fields Other but haven’t been able to select (or create) a category that allows the text of every header to be different while retaining the style. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines
Hi; On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 10:06 -0500, Richard Detwiler wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: In a layout for publishing (Openoffice 3.1.1, Debian GNU/Linux) I need to have page headlines that are different on every page. I have inserted headers in left-hand and right-hand page styles, and set an appropriate paragraph style for the content; but when I type a page headline on any page it is copied to all left-hand pages (or all right-hand pages, as the case may be). I hope I’m overlooking some simple setting. Any help appreciated. What do you need to have be different in each header? Generally speaking, what you need is to click in the header and use Insert Fields to select the content you want. Maybe there's some confusion in terminology? The OP uses two terms, headlines and headers. I'm not sure if Seamas is using those interchangeably or not -- they certainly are not at all equivalent. If headers is really what is meant by headlines, I'm not sure I understand the objective of having headers that are different on every page. Isn't the point of a header that there is basically the same thing on all pages of that style? (With possible differences being, for example, the page number.) So maybe headlines is really more what is meant, and the OP is confusing headers with a way of achieving headlines? So I think we need some clarification from the OP as to what the goal is. I think I understand what the OP wants. If I am correct it is not unreasonable. 1) A normal left-page right-page header template that repeats styles and perhaps a centred title and right hand page number, plus 2) A text-box at the left-hand page margin that is within, beside or overlays the header which doesn't repeat but into which he can write different page titles. I am too busy today to experiment, but if I have correctly interpreted his request it should be achievable by either: a) inserting a blank box in the header; b) setting a page style that starts with a text-box, then has the header left margin start at the right margin of the text-box; or c) write a macro that overlays a text box over the header. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Variable page headlines -- re-wording
Hi; Just fixing the wording of my previous post. On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 10:26 -0500, William Case wrote: Hi; On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 10:06 -0500, Richard Detwiler wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: In a layout for publishing (Openoffice 3.1.1, Debian GNU/Linux) I need to have page headlines that are different on every page. I have inserted headers in left-hand and right-hand page styles, and set an appropriate paragraph style for the content; but when I type a page headline on any page it is copied to all left-hand pages (or all right-hand pages, as the case may be). I hope I’m overlooking some simple setting. Any help appreciated. What do you need to have be different in each header? Generally speaking, what you need is to click in the header and use Insert Fields to select the content you want. Maybe there's some confusion in terminology? The OP uses two terms, headlines and headers. I'm not sure if Seamas is using those interchangeably or not -- they certainly are not at all equivalent. If headers is really what is meant by headlines, I'm not sure I understand the objective of having headers that are different on every page. Isn't the point of a header that there is basically the same thing on all pages of that style? (With possible differences being, for example, the page number.) So maybe headlines is really more what is meant, and the OP is confusing headers with a way of achieving headlines? So I think we need some clarification from the OP as to what the goal is. I think I understand what the OP wants. If I am correct it is not unreasonable. 1) A normal left-page right-page header style that repeats formats and perhaps repeats a centred title and right hand page number, plus 2) A text-box at the left-hand page margin that is within, beside or overlays the header which doesn't repeat the contents but into which he can type different page titles for each page. I am too busy today to experiment, but if I have correctly interpreted his request, it should be achievable by either: a) inserting a blank box (frame) in the header style; b) setting a page style that starts with a frame (text-box), then has the header left margin start at the right margin of the text-box; or c) write a macro bound to a key combination that overlays a frame (text-box) over the header as needed. Check how well the solution prints. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
