Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
On 12/13/10 7:28 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote: If you are using the version of OOo provided by Mint, the preset parts of OOo are probably located within the /etc/ folder. That is not what you want. You mentioned three locations for the standard.soc file, but you did not mention where the third location was. If you look at my earlier reply, I mentioned a location: /home/.openoffice.org/. What I should have written /home/user/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/ as the folder containing the file you need. The user in the address is the name of the folder which contains all of your personal folders. For example, on my Linux box, my user name is dan. So, this file is located at /home/dan/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/. Another thing: the period in front of openoffice.org is used by Linux to identify a hidden folder or file. I'm not sure how you searched for the standard.soc file. Did you use the command line or something else. This might help some. Dan In the immortal words of Captain J.J. Adams The damned thing's invisible!, I have you to thank for locating the files in question -- only visible in show hidden files mode! Like who'd ever know that, and Why?? Wouldn't it make it a heck of a lot easier (not that mucking around with CLI is anyway!) for the poor green user to transfer their personalized defaults and bio between OOo versions by keeping it out in the open? No wonder Billy isn't all that bothered that OOo exists! Anyway, thanks a mint for your input Dan and Merry Xmas! Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
On 12/15/10 7:45 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: James Greenidge wrote: In the immortal words of Captain J.J. Adams The damned thing's invisible!, I have you to thank for locating the files in question -- only visible in show hidden files mode! Like who'd ever know that, and Why?? Wouldn't it make it a heck of a lot easier (not that mucking around with CLI is anyway!) for the poor green user to transfer their personalized defaults and bio between OOo versions by keeping it out in the open? No wonder Billy isn't all that bothered that OOo exists! Anyway, thanks a mint for your input Dan and Merry Xmas! Jim I'm sending this off list directly to you. Back around OOo version 2.0.0, (I think this was the first one), OOo made its folder hidden in the /home/user/ folder hiddenfor Linux. I wondered why at the time. But as I have used Linux more and more, I realized that this was how Linux distributions did it. Selecting Show hidden files will show many hidden folders for programs used by the user. So, its a matter of understanding the structure of Linux more than OOo. The location of the preset file folder follows the Linux tradition: using the /etc/ and /init/ folders. The Linux version from the OOo website uses the /opt/ folder to place its preset files. This too follows the Linux tradition. But this is no different than Windows versions nor Mac OS X. Each one has a specific location that if very different from other operating systems. I still have problems finding what I want because the location is in the .../user/Library/Application Support/. This did not make sense to me as a Linux user for several years. When I want to delete a program for some reason, I have learned to drag it to the Trash. But I have no idea of how many folders I have in the Application Support folder containing files that I no longer need. But this is a Mac thing. It can be as frustrating as you are finding Mint Linux. Suggestion: Learn the quirks of Mint Linux, and the frustration level will drop tremendously. Hang in there, things will get better. Dan Thanks Dan. The only thing is that one shouldn't be a jedi geek to do something this elementary! For me, the larger OOo marketing/public relations/customer service question is -- doesn't it behoove OpenOffice (or whatever it's cloned into now) to make things easier for novices and the totally clueless lay-user to transfer their personal configs and defaults between OOo versions? Lay non-geek/techie people using OOo Windows with lengthy bio user data and several hundred custom colors who want to move on to OOo Mac or OOo Mint or visa versa will think twice and head back to Word and MS Office if they can't easily transfer their OOo configs to other OOo versions. People on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=130 and https://answers.launchpad.net/ claim that it should take a good OOo programmer less than fifteen minutes to whip up such a cross-platform OOo config transfer script. It seems to this callow guy that'd be a good way for OOo to reap more users who would otherwise be put off trying to stay in the OOo fold -- at least you'd do so if you were really out to make a profit. Merry Xmas All! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
Bruce, thank you for your suggestions and we'll take it under serious consideration. It's just a shame that users and beta testers have to go it alone with complicated ad hoc remedies like this on issues which are basic programming knowledge to OOo programmers and writers. But by God, isn't there a member of the OOo crew here who can suggest less jump-thru-hoops suggestions than this when laypeople and schools and companies are changing platforms and wish to take OOo along with them? Surely a method to semi-painlessly transfer configs and defaults between OOo variants would better grease the way to attract more users! Exasperated JIm in NYC On 12/12/10 9:00 PM, Bruce_Martin wrote: Dear James and all: My experience is that Oo stores color codes, hatches and gradients all in the same place relative to itself. This alone does not give you the exact path, as that can vary in relation to the different platforms. However there is a simple procedure I use to load, store and migrate this data between Fedora, Win XP etc on my network, and carry it physically to friend's machines (as I have created a number of custom colours and gradients.) *_Procedure:_* In whatever installation of Oo you are using... 1)Open a blank Oo Draw file. 2)Draw a rectangle (size is minimally important, as long as it fits the page and is big enough to see the fill colour.) 3 ) Right click (PC) on the fill. 4)From the menu that appears, choose area. 5)Then choose the colours tab. 6)Close to the right side of the colour choice window, look for 2 icons, One usually a blue floppy, (to save as the colour palette), the other one above it to load a colour palette. 7)Open either one of these, and you will get the contents of the default folder that holds the color palette (usual extension: .SOC) The default file name is Standard.SOC, and the size will depend on the number of colours it contains at the time. (Mine, with added colours is only about 12 Kb.) 8)In the usual manner for navigating, start to navigate - more to see where the default folder is located than to actually do anything. 9)If you want to export a colour palette, load it into Oo, then save it with the other icon, navigating to your desired new location. Then you will end up saving a copy of it in that location, which can be a USB stick, and external or network drive or whatever you have. 10)Likewise, using the load icon, you can load a file from any other location, then save it as the Standard.SOC file, overwriting the one in the default folder and, providing the new file is a legitimate SOC, it will be the default colour palette once you close and restart Open office - no need to reboot as a rule. 11)All the preceding stuff repeats for Gradients (Default Standard.SOG) and Hatches - Default Standard.SOG 12)If the installation were on a MAC, either the HFS or HFS+ file system would likely generate the usual mac fork, or that might be done by the underlying Java runtime used with the MAC (Tiger and up.) 12a)When exporting from a MAC to a PC environment, it is normal to end up with 3 files for each part of the MAC fork: The Data Resource is the one you need for the PC, the Resource and other forks should be saved aside, so that when you need to re-import the file back from the PC world to the MAC world, you simply copy the modified PC file back into the folder where the other 2 files were kept, making sure the filenames (aside from the extensions) are identical, then, in the MAC environment, the re-integration of the 3 files back into the MAC fork is normally done automatically when you copy the file back into the MAC environment. On the older MACS, this was done with a PC formatted floppy used in the MAC floppy drive, as on either the 1.44Mb PC floppy and the same physical floppy, formatted as HFS (MAC) 900 Kb. were actually encoded MFM. On USB Sticks, the file system should be FAT16, but Likely could work with ext2 or ext3, providing the MAC OS is capable of reading those systems currently. In the case of an External HD (USB of IEEE1394/Firewire) the likely system would be FAT32. NAS drives are more complex, as they generally have a firmware OS which is network transparent. Personally here my NAS box is the D-Link DNS-323 which is a UNIX box. Since the latest major firmware upgrade flashes the obligatory initial initialise and format the box does on anew drive can be ext2 or ext3 (latter preferred) but other machines will see this as if it were NTFS, or, alternatively this box has built-in SFTP and Torrent servers as well as the more normal Windows network protocol. In Linux (Fedora 14 x_64) I access this via Samba. The box also has firmware RAID capability and scheduled automated download capability. This box can go well with D-Link's DIR-825, as it likes a Gb. Wired connection (CAT 6 cable required). Happy computing and
Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
Perhaps this will help: The color table is stored in /home/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/ in the standard .soc file. This is using the OOo version downloaded from the OOo website. The Mac version is home/Library/Application Support/openoffice.org/3/user/config. Again it is the standard .soc file. Before copying the standard.soc file from another location, you might consider renaming the standard.soc file you want to replace. Then copy the desired standard.soc file into the same folder. Close OOo if it is running. Open it to see if you now have the color table that you want. NOTICE: The locations are accurate. The suggestions are what I think, but I have never tried to do this. They may not work even if I think they should. Dan James Greenidge wrote: Bruce, thank you for your suggestions and we'll take it under serious consideration. It's just a shame that users and beta testers have to go it alone with complicated ad hoc remedies like this on issues which are basic programming knowledge to OOo programmers and writers. But by God, isn't there a member of the OOo crew here who can suggest less jump-thru-hoops suggestions than this when laypeople and schools and companies are changing platforms and wish to take OOo along with them? Surely a method to semi-painlessly transfer configs and defaults between OOo variants would better grease the way to attract more users! Exasperated JIm in NYC On 12/12/10 9:00 PM, Bruce_Martin wrote: Dear James and all: My experience is that Oo stores color codes, hatches and gradients all in the same place relative to itself. This alone does not give you the exact path, as that can vary in relation to the different platforms. However there is a simple procedure I use to load, store and migrate this data between Fedora, Win XP etc on my network, and carry it physically to friend's machines (as I have created a number of custom colours and gradients.) *_Procedure:_* In whatever installation of Oo you are using... 1)Open a blank Oo Draw file. 2)Draw a rectangle (size is minimally important, as long as it fits the page and is big enough to see the fill colour.) 3 ) Right click (PC) on the fill. 4)From the menu that appears, choose area. 5)Then choose the colours tab. 6)Close to the right side of the colour choice window, look for 2 icons, One usually a blue floppy, (to save as the colour palette), the other one above it to load a colour palette. 7)Open either one of these, and you will get the contents of the default folder that holds the color palette (usual extension: .SOC) The default file name is Standard.SOC, and the size will depend on the number of colours it contains at the time. (Mine, with added colours is only about 12 Kb.) 8)In the usual manner for navigating, start to navigate - more to see where the default folder is located than to actually do anything. 9)If you want to export a colour palette, load it into Oo, then save it with the other icon, navigating to your desired new location. Then you will end up saving a copy of it in that location, which can be a USB stick, and external or network drive or whatever you have. 10)Likewise, using the load icon, you can load a file from any other location, then save it as the Standard.SOC file, overwriting the one in the default folder and, providing the new file is a legitimate SOC, it will be the default colour palette once you close and restart Open office - no need to reboot as a rule. 11)All the preceding stuff repeats for Gradients (Default Standard.SOG) and Hatches - Default Standard.SOG 12)If the installation were on a MAC, either the HFS or HFS+ file system would likely generate the usual mac fork, or that might be done by the underlying Java runtime used with the MAC (Tiger and up.) 12a)When exporting from a MAC to a PC environment, it is normal to end up with 3 files for each part of the MAC fork: The Data Resource is the one you need for the PC, the Resource and other forks should be saved aside, so that when you need to re-import the file back from the PC world to the MAC world, you simply copy the modified PC file back into the folder where the other 2 files were kept, making sure the filenames (aside from the extensions) are identical, then, in the MAC environment, the re-integration of the 3 files back into the MAC fork is normally done automatically when you copy the file back into the MAC environment. On the older MACS, this was done with a PC formatted floppy used in the MAC floppy drive, as on either the 1.44Mb PC floppy and the same physical floppy, formatted as HFS (MAC) 900 Kb. were actually encoded MFM. On USB Sticks, the file system should be FAT16, but Likely could work with ext2 or ext3, providing the MAC OS is capable of reading those systems currently. In the case of an External HD (USB of IEEE1394/Firewire) the likely system would
Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
On 12/13/10 10:53 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: Perhaps this will help: The color table is stored in /home/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/ in the standard .soc file. This is using the OOo version downloaded from the OOo website. The Mac version is home/Library/Application Support/openoffice.org/3/user/config. Again it is the standard .soc file. Before copying the standard.soc file from another location, you might consider renaming the standard.soc file you want to replace. Then copy the desired standard.soc file into the same folder. Close OOo if it is running. Open it to see if you now have the color table that you want. NOTICE: The locations are accurate. The suggestions are what I think, but I have never tried to do this. They may not work even if I think they should. Dan Seasons Greetings Dan and thanks, however as far I could find, the directory structure of Mint is a morass of branches and duplicated folders. A file search for OpenOffice and standard.soc came up readily enough in Mac, but in Mint a file search popped up nothing less than three separate OpenOffice folders in threads raging from /etc/ to /init/ and some were alias dead-ends or plain empty. I'm no hacker and I really don't want to play Indiana Jones delving our hard drives just to transfer color and address and default info from Mac OOo into Mint OOo. I wonder how many perspective users OOo lost because people couldn't transfer their personal Mac or PC or Linux Ooo defaults between another. Surely there's a simple script that can swing this, and I'd really be nice if the brains in the know could lend a hint. Jim in NYC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
James Greenidge wrote: On 12/13/10 10:53 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: Perhaps this will help: The color table is stored in /home/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/ in the standard .soc file. This is using the OOo version downloaded from the OOo website. The Mac version is home/Library/Application Support/openoffice.org/3/user/config. Again it is the standard .soc file. Before copying the standard.soc file from another location, you might consider renaming the standard.soc file you want to replace. Then copy the desired standard.soc file into the same folder. Close OOo if it is running. Open it to see if you now have the color table that you want. NOTICE: The locations are accurate. The suggestions are what I think, but I have never tried to do this. They may not work even if I think they should. Dan Seasons Greetings Dan and thanks, however as far I could find, the directory structure of Mint is a morass of branches and duplicated folders. A file search for OpenOffice and standard.soc came up readily enough in Mac, but in Mint a file search popped up nothing less than three separate OpenOffice folders in threads raging from /etc/ to /init/ and some were alias dead-ends or plain empty. I'm no hacker and I really don't want to play Indiana Jones delving our hard drives just to transfer color and address and default info from Mac OOo into Mint OOo. I wonder how many perspective users OOo lost because people couldn't transfer their personal Mac or PC or Linux Ooo defaults between another. Surely there's a simple script that can swing this, and I'd really be nice if the brains in the know could lend a hint. Jim in NYC If you are using the version of OOo provided by Mint, the preset parts of OOo are probably located within the /etc/ folder. That is not what you want. You mentioned three locations for the standard.soc file, but you did not mention where the third location was. If you look at my earlier reply, I mentioned a location: /home/.openoffice.org/. What I should have written /home/user/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/ as the folder containing the file you need. The user in the address is the name of the folder which contains all of your personal folders. For example, on my Linux box, my user name is dan. So, this file is located at /home/dan/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/. Another thing: the period in front of openoffice.org is used by Linux to identify a hidden folder or file. I'm not sure how you searched for the standard.soc file. Did you use the command line or something else. This might help some. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
Seasons Greetings: I'd be happy enough just being pointed to where Linux/Mint OOo stores its color code files so I can figure out how to replace it with the one from Mac OOo to save my home school the time and tedium of inputting over eighty custom non-Sun color codes. Thanks. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
Dear James and all: My experience is that Oo stores color codes, hatches and gradients all in the same place relative to itself. This alone does not give you the exact path, as that can vary in relation to the different platforms. However there is a simple procedure I use to load, store and migrate this data between Fedora, Win XP etc on my network, and carry it physically to friend's machines (as I have created a number of custom colours and gradients.) *_Procedure:_* In whatever installation of Oo you are using... 1)Open a blank Oo Draw file. 2)Draw a rectangle (size is minimally important, as long as it fits the page and is big enough to see the fill colour.) 3 ) Right click (PC) on the fill. 4)From the menu that appears, choose area. 5)Then choose the colours tab. 6)Close to the right side of the colour choice window, look for 2 icons, One usually a blue floppy, (to save as the colour palette), the other one above it to load a colour palette. 7)Open either one of these, and you will get the contents of the default folder that holds the color palette (usual extension: .SOC) The default file name is Standard.SOC, and the size will depend on the number of colours it contains at the time. (Mine, with added colours is only about 12 Kb.) 8)In the usual manner for navigating, start to navigate - more to see where the default folder is located than to actually do anything. 9)If you want to export a colour palette, load it into Oo, then save it with the other icon, navigating to your desired new location. Then you will end up saving a copy of it in that location, which can be a USB stick, and external or network drive or whatever you have. 10)Likewise, using the load icon, you can load a file from any other location, then save it as the Standard.SOC file, overwriting the one in the default folder and, providing the new file is a legitimate SOC, it will be the default colour palette once you close and restart Open office - no need to reboot as a rule. 11)All the preceding stuff repeats for Gradients (Default Standard.SOG) and Hatches - Default Standard.SOG 12)If the installation were on a MAC, either the HFS or HFS+ file system would likely generate the usual mac fork, or that might be done by the underlying Java runtime used with the MAC (Tiger and up.) 12a)When exporting from a MAC to a PC environment, it is normal to end up with 3 files for each part of the MAC fork: The Data Resource is the one you need for the PC, the Resource and other forks should be saved aside, so that when you need to re-import the file back from the PC world to the MAC world, you simply copy the modified PC file back into the folder where the other 2 files were kept, making sure the filenames (aside from the extensions) are identical, then, in the MAC environment, the re-integration of the 3 files back into the MAC fork is normally done automatically when you copy the file back into the MAC environment. On the older MACS, this was done with a PC formatted floppy used in the MAC floppy drive, as on either the 1.44Mb PC floppy and the same physical floppy, formatted as HFS (MAC) 900 Kb. were actually encoded MFM. On USB Sticks, the file system should be FAT16, but Likely could work with ext2 or ext3, providing the MAC OS is capable of reading those systems currently. In the case of an External HD (USB of IEEE1394/Firewire) the likely system would be FAT32. NAS drives are more complex, as they generally have a firmware OS which is network transparent. Personally here my NAS box is the D-Link DNS-323 which is a UNIX box. Since the latest major firmware upgrade flashes the obligatory initial initialise and format the box does on anew drive can be ext2 or ext3 (latter preferred) but other machines will see this as if it were NTFS, or, alternatively this box has built-in SFTP and Torrent servers as well as the more normal Windows network protocol. In Linux (Fedora 14 x_64) I access this via Samba. The box also has firmware RAID capability and scheduled automated download capability. This box can go well with D-Link's DIR-825, as it likes a Gb. Wired connection (CAT 6 cable required). Happy computing and learning! I hope you all find my answer a colourful answer (guffaw). Bruce M. On 12/12/2010 19:09, James Greenidge wrote: Seasons Greetings: I'd be happy enough just being pointed to where Linux/Mint OOo stores its color code files so I can figure out how to replace it with the one from Mac OOo to save my home school the time and tedium of inputting over eighty custom non-Sun color codes. Thanks. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- Best Regards, Bruce Martin
