Re: [users] default fonts again
The issue has been marked as a duplicate of this one. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=29485 Not sure that I agree but if the core issue is the same it is a long standing one (from 1.1.1) Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As per your suggestion I have submitted it to the qa - see http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88315 Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue 15 Apr 2008 19:20:31 EST There appears to be a way to change the default fonts and size of fonts for new documents under Tools | Options | OpenOffice.org Writer | Basic Fonts (Western) However anything set here appears to be largely ignored even if Current document only is not ticked. Another way that is somewhat more successful is to create a default document and then save it as a template File | Templates | Save | My Templates and give the new template a name and click OK. Then make that template the default template File | Templates | Organise | select the template under My Templates | Commands | Set as default template However that only works when you create a new file under File | New | Text Document Or by simply starting Writer (swriter.exe) from a shortcut/icon. If you go to Windows Explorer (obviously only under Windows - I have no idea what the equivalent of this is on Linux or Mac) and go to File | New | OpenDocument Text to create a new document it will not only ignore any settings under Tools | Options | etc but will also ignore any default templates. This would appear to be a significant oversight. Neil This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ, but the document generated by this method does revert to the original Writer defaults, not to the user defined default template. I don't have time to pull up the source code and find out how the document is being generated from the Explorer menu. So I would suggest you submit an issue to http://qa.openoffice.org Sorry I can't be of more help. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] default fonts again
There appears to be a way to change the default fonts and size of fonts for new documents under Tools | Options | OpenOffice.org Writer | Basic Fonts (Western) However anything set here appears to be largely ignored even if Current document only is not ticked. Another way that is somewhat more successful is to create a default document and then save it as a template File | Templates | Save | My Templates and give the new template a name and click OK. Then make that template the default template File | Templates | Organise | select the template under My Templates | Commands | Set as default template However that only works when you create a new file under File | New | Text Document If you go to Windows Explorer (obviously only under Windows - I have no idea what the equivalent of this is on Linux or Mac) and go to File | New | OpenDocument Text to create a new document it will not only ignore any settings under Tools | Options | etc but will also ignore any default templates. This would appear to be a significant oversight. Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] default fonts again
Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue 15 Apr 2008 19:20:31 EST There appears to be a way to change the default fonts and size of fonts for new documents under Tools | Options | OpenOffice.org Writer | Basic Fonts (Western) However anything set here appears to be largely ignored even if Current document only is not ticked. Another way that is somewhat more successful is to create a default document and then save it as a template File | Templates | Save | My Templates and give the new template a name and click OK. Then make that template the default template File | Templates | Organise | select the template under My Templates | Commands | Set as default template However that only works when you create a new file under File | New | Text Document Or by simply starting Writer (swriter.exe) from a shortcut/icon. If you go to Windows Explorer (obviously only under Windows - I have no idea what the equivalent of this is on Linux or Mac) and go to File | New | OpenDocument Text to create a new document it will not only ignore any settings under Tools | Options | etc but will also ignore any default templates. This would appear to be a significant oversight. Neil This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ, but the document generated by this method does revert to the original Writer defaults, not to the user defined default template. I don't have time to pull up the source code and find out how the document is being generated from the Explorer menu. So I would suggest you submit an issue to http://qa.openoffice.org Sorry I can't be of more help. Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [users] default fonts again
As per your suggestion I have submitted it to the qa - see http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88315 Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue 15 Apr 2008 19:20:31 EST There appears to be a way to change the default fonts and size of fonts for new documents under Tools | Options | OpenOffice.org Writer | Basic Fonts (Western) However anything set here appears to be largely ignored even if Current document only is not ticked. Another way that is somewhat more successful is to create a default document and then save it as a template File | Templates | Save | My Templates and give the new template a name and click OK. Then make that template the default template File | Templates | Organise | select the template under My Templates | Commands | Set as default template However that only works when you create a new file under File | New | Text Document Or by simply starting Writer (swriter.exe) from a shortcut/icon. If you go to Windows Explorer (obviously only under Windows - I have no idea what the equivalent of this is on Linux or Mac) and go to File | New | OpenDocument Text to create a new document it will not only ignore any settings under Tools | Options | etc but will also ignore any default templates. This would appear to be a significant oversight. Neil This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ, but the document generated by this method does revert to the original Writer defaults, not to the user defined default template. I don't have time to pull up the source code and find out how the document is being generated from the Explorer menu. So I would suggest you submit an issue to http://qa.openoffice.org Sorry I can't be of more help. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] default fonts again
Hi Dave I am not sure on what research you base the statement This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ but it is certainly a way that I use at times and don't find cumbersome. Regardless of the way the document is created it should be consistent. Neil Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue 15 Apr 2008 19:20:31 EST There appears to be a way to change the default fonts and size of fonts for new documents under Tools | Options | OpenOffice.org Writer | Basic Fonts (Western) However anything set here appears to be largely ignored even if Current document only is not ticked. Another way that is somewhat more successful is to create a default document and then save it as a template File | Templates | Save | My Templates and give the new template a name and click OK. Then make that template the default template File | Templates | Organise | select the template under My Templates | Commands | Set as default template However that only works when you create a new file under File | New | Text Document Or by simply starting Writer (swriter.exe) from a shortcut/icon. If you go to Windows Explorer (obviously only under Windows - I have no idea what the equivalent of this is on Linux or Mac) and go to File | New | OpenDocument Text to create a new document it will not only ignore any settings under Tools | Options | etc but will also ignore any default templates. This would appear to be a significant oversight. Neil This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ, but the document generated by this method does revert to the original Writer defaults, not to the user defined default template. I don't have time to pull up the source code and find out how the document is being generated from the Explorer menu. So I would suggest you submit an issue to http://qa.openoffice.org Sorry I can't be of more help. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] default fonts again
At 08:07 16/04/2008 +1000, Neil Jansons wrote: Dave Barton wrote: Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue 15 Apr 2008 19:20:31 EST There appears to be a way to change the default fonts and size of fonts for new documents under Tools | Options | OpenOffice.org Writer | Basic Fonts (Western) However anything set here appears to be largely ignored even if Current document only is not ticked. Another way that is somewhat more successful is to create a default document and then save it as a template File | Templates | Save | My Templates and give the new template a name and click OK. Then make that template the default template File | Templates | Organise | select the template under My Templates | Commands | Set as default template However that only works when you create a new file under File | New | Text Document Or by simply starting Writer (swriter.exe) from a shortcut/icon. If you go to Windows Explorer (obviously only under Windows - I have no idea what the equivalent of this is on Linux or Mac) and go to File | New | OpenDocument Text to create a new document it will not only ignore any settings under Tools | Options | etc but will also ignore any default templates. This would appear to be a significant oversight. Neil This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ, but the document generated by this method does revert to the original Writer defaults, not to the user defined default template. I don't have time to pull up the source code and find out how the document is being generated from the Explorer menu. So I would suggest you submit an issue to http://qa.openoffice.org Sorry I can't be of more help. Dave Hi Dave I am not sure on what research you base the statement This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ but it is certainly a way that I use at times and don't find cumbersome. Regardless of the way the document is created it should be consistent. Neil For what it's worth (and this is not a flame), I agree that this method of creating new document files is in no way cumbersome: in fact, it is particularly convenient. And I very much doubt whether it is at all unusual. Indeed, for those users who clearly find locating the program menu entries in Windows in order to start OpenOffice a challenge, I suspect that this would be their standard way of creating a new document. They would open My Computer, browse to the appropriate folder, and either double-click an existing document file or else create a new one first by this technique, rename it suitably, and then double-click that. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] default fonts again
Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed 16 Apr 2008 08:07:51 EST Hi Dave Hi Neil I am not sure on what research you base the statement This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new document and not one that many users would normally employ but it is certainly a way that I use at times and don't find cumbersome. I wouldn't describe my experience as research. It's just that over many years I have trained or assisted hundreds of people, with varying degrees of experience, in the use of computer software, including OOo. In the process I have had the opportunity to study the various options users choose to perform similar actions. While I am aware of the method you describe to create a new writer document, I have never seen any of these people voluntarily choose this option. I describe this method as cumbersome, because it first creates a a file which offers to be (re)named and then has to be opened (eg double click). The same is true for MS Word documents created by this method. To me it just seems much more straight forward to open swriter.exe from a shortcut, but it's the user's choice, so each to their own. Regardless of the way the document is created it should be consistent. I am partly in agreement with you on this, but I don't know what function Windows is calling when it creates the file to be opened. By the time the file is loaded into Writer, the document structure is already established. From my cursory perusal of and experimentation with the OOo command line parameters, I cannot find anything that creates a file with the original OOo default document structure. Hopefully one of the developers will pick up your issue and explain how this is happening. Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
