Re: [Users] Website trackers (openvz.org)

2015-09-29 Thread Narcis Garcia 
Respect for the users in openvz.org is becoming better and better,
thanks to effort and consideration of Sergei and Kir.

Let me suggest a better alternative to Google Analytics:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Open_Web_Analytics



El 29/09/15 a les 18:13, Kir Kolyshkin ha escrit:
> 
> 
> On 09/29/2015 05:39 AM, Sergey Bronnikov wrote:
>> Hi, Narcis
>>
>> 'Like' buttons are useful for those who wants to post link to page
>> to social networks. But according to my experience there are small amount
>> of people who uses them.
>> We decide to remove 'Like' buttons from OpenVZ wiki pages.
>> They are kept only on pages for old vzquota/ploop/vzctl releases -
>> https://openvz.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Like
> 
> In fact I don't see "Like" buttons on pages in this list.
> 
> I googled around and found that running refreshLinks script[1]
> might help. Indeed it helped, although took about 5 minutes to run!
> 
> After this, I only saw vzquota and vzstats download pages using Like,
> so I edited appropriate templates and removed those, too.
> 
> As of now, no pages have this template used, and I removed the
> template itself as well as the relevant mediawiki plugin (which btw
> was installed exactly 4 years ago).
> 
> Note we are still using Google Analytics though.
> 
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RefreshLinks.php
> 

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Re: [Users] Website trackers (openvz.org)

2015-09-29 Thread Kir Kolyshkin 



On 09/29/2015 05:39 AM, Sergey Bronnikov wrote:

Hi, Narcis

'Like' buttons are useful for those who wants to post link to page
to social networks. But according to my experience there are small amount
of people who uses them.
We decide to remove 'Like' buttons from OpenVZ wiki pages.
They are kept only on pages for old vzquota/ploop/vzctl releases -
https://openvz.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Like


In fact I don't see "Like" buttons on pages in this list.

I googled around and found that running refreshLinks script[1]
might help. Indeed it helped, although took about 5 minutes to run!

After this, I only saw vzquota and vzstats download pages using Like,
so I edited appropriate templates and removed those, too.

As of now, no pages have this template used, and I removed the
template itself as well as the relevant mediawiki plugin (which btw
was installed exactly 4 years ago).

Note we are still using Google Analytics though.

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RefreshLinks.php



Sergey

On 16:36 Sat 26 Sep , Narcis Garcia wrote:

Sometime it's time to think in web services, not only in my individual
needings. It's time to think in Free Software (FOSS) model, not only in
free beer. A model to respect users.
I know those tools for HTTP client part, very useful for expert web users.

I hope this debate to produce something more constructive than
obstructive, to improve things and give good example publicly.
If I didn't appreciate this project, I wouldn't explain all this to
enhance openvz.org


El 26/09/15 a les 16:06, spameden ha escrit:

there are bunch of plugins for Firefox to mitigate this:

AdBlock Plus, Ghostery, NoScript.

Check 'em out.

2015-09-26 16:11 GMT+03:00 Narcis Garcia mailto:informat...@actiu.net>>:

 Are you "internet"?
 Or do you have only your own cookies?

 Welcome to the XXI century internet, we are used as a product by
 companies unrelated to websites we visit.


 El 25/09/15 a les 19:30, Todd Mueller ha escrit:
 > Welcome to the Internet, we have cookies.
 >
 > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Narcis Garcia mailto:informat...@actiu.net>> wrote:
 >> Off topic:
 >> This wiki is served with, at least, 4 spyware elements:
 >> - Facebook connect
 >> - Google analytics
 >> - Google+ platform
 >> - Twitter button
 >>
 >>
 >> El 25/09/15 a les 13:54, Sergey Bronnikov ha escrit:
 >>> Hello, everyone
 >>>
 >>> some of you asked about feature set of Virtuzzo 7 and difference
 between free
 >>> and commercial versions.  We have prepared table with feature
 comparison for
 >>> OpenVZ -stable, Virtuozzo 7 and other virtualization solutions -
 >>> https://openvz.org/Comparison
 >>>
 >>> Pay attention it is not a final feature set, some features can
 be added in
 >>> future till final release.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> --
 >>> sergeyb@

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Re: [Users] Website trackers (openvz.org)

2015-09-29 Thread Narcis Garcia 
Thanks Sergey.
Every step in this direction is an improvement.
Self managed links (simple links) are so useful for the user as that
remote piece from that third party.


El 29/09/15 a les 14:39, Sergey Bronnikov ha escrit:
> Hi, Narcis
> 
> 'Like' buttons are useful for those who wants to post link to page
> to social networks. But according to my experience there are small amount
> of people who uses them.
> We decide to remove 'Like' buttons from OpenVZ wiki pages.
> They are kept only on pages for old vzquota/ploop/vzctl releases -
> https://openvz.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Like
> 
> Sergey
> 
> On 16:36 Sat 26 Sep , Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> Sometime it's time to think in web services, not only in my individual
>> needings. It's time to think in Free Software (FOSS) model, not only in
>> free beer. A model to respect users.
>> I know those tools for HTTP client part, very useful for expert web users.
>>
>> I hope this debate to produce something more constructive than
>> obstructive, to improve things and give good example publicly.
>> If I didn't appreciate this project, I wouldn't explain all this to
>> enhance openvz.org
>>
>>
>> El 26/09/15 a les 16:06, spameden ha escrit:
>>> there are bunch of plugins for Firefox to mitigate this:
>>>
>>> AdBlock Plus, Ghostery, NoScript.
>>>
>>> Check 'em out.
>>>
>>> 2015-09-26 16:11 GMT+03:00 Narcis Garcia >> >:
>>>
>>> Are you "internet"?
>>> Or do you have only your own cookies?
>>>
>>> Welcome to the XXI century internet, we are used as a product by
>>> companies unrelated to websites we visit.
>>>
>>>
>>> El 25/09/15 a les 19:30, Todd Mueller ha escrit:
>>> > Welcome to the Internet, we have cookies.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Narcis Garcia 
>>> mailto:informat...@actiu.net>> wrote:
>>> >> Off topic:
>>> >> This wiki is served with, at least, 4 spyware elements:
>>> >> - Facebook connect
>>> >> - Google analytics
>>> >> - Google+ platform
>>> >> - Twitter button
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> El 25/09/15 a les 13:54, Sergey Bronnikov ha escrit:
>>> >>> Hello, everyone
>>> >>>
>>> >>> some of you asked about feature set of Virtuzzo 7 and difference
>>> between free
>>> >>> and commercial versions.  We have prepared table with feature
>>> comparison for
>>> >>> OpenVZ -stable, Virtuozzo 7 and other virtualization solutions -
>>> >>> https://openvz.org/Comparison
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Pay attention it is not a final feature set, some features can
>>> be added in
>>> >>> future till final release.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> sergeyb@
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Re: [Users] Website trackers (openvz.org)

2015-09-29 Thread Sergey Bronnikov 
Hi, Narcis

'Like' buttons are useful for those who wants to post link to page
to social networks. But according to my experience there are small amount
of people who uses them.
We decide to remove 'Like' buttons from OpenVZ wiki pages.
They are kept only on pages for old vzquota/ploop/vzctl releases -
https://openvz.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Like

Sergey

On 16:36 Sat 26 Sep , Narcis Garcia wrote:
> Sometime it's time to think in web services, not only in my individual
> needings. It's time to think in Free Software (FOSS) model, not only in
> free beer. A model to respect users.
> I know those tools for HTTP client part, very useful for expert web users.
> 
> I hope this debate to produce something more constructive than
> obstructive, to improve things and give good example publicly.
> If I didn't appreciate this project, I wouldn't explain all this to
> enhance openvz.org
> 
> 
> El 26/09/15 a les 16:06, spameden ha escrit:
> > there are bunch of plugins for Firefox to mitigate this:
> > 
> > AdBlock Plus, Ghostery, NoScript.
> > 
> > Check 'em out.
> > 
> > 2015-09-26 16:11 GMT+03:00 Narcis Garcia  > >:
> > 
> > Are you "internet"?
> > Or do you have only your own cookies?
> > 
> > Welcome to the XXI century internet, we are used as a product by
> > companies unrelated to websites we visit.
> > 
> > 
> > El 25/09/15 a les 19:30, Todd Mueller ha escrit:
> > > Welcome to the Internet, we have cookies.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Narcis Garcia 
> > mailto:informat...@actiu.net>> wrote:
> > >> Off topic:
> > >> This wiki is served with, at least, 4 spyware elements:
> > >> - Facebook connect
> > >> - Google analytics
> > >> - Google+ platform
> > >> - Twitter button
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> El 25/09/15 a les 13:54, Sergey Bronnikov ha escrit:
> > >>> Hello, everyone
> > >>>
> > >>> some of you asked about feature set of Virtuzzo 7 and difference
> > between free
> > >>> and commercial versions.  We have prepared table with feature
> > comparison for
> > >>> OpenVZ -stable, Virtuozzo 7 and other virtualization solutions -
> > >>> https://openvz.org/Comparison
> > >>>
> > >>> Pay attention it is not a final feature set, some features can
> > be added in
> > >>> future till final release.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> sergeyb@
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Re: [Users] Website trackers (openvz.org)

2015-09-26 Thread Narcis Garcia 
Sometime it's time to think in web services, not only in my individual
needings. It's time to think in Free Software (FOSS) model, not only in
free beer. A model to respect users.
I know those tools for HTTP client part, very useful for expert web users.

I hope this debate to produce something more constructive than
obstructive, to improve things and give good example publicly.
If I didn't appreciate this project, I wouldn't explain all this to
enhance openvz.org


El 26/09/15 a les 16:06, spameden ha escrit:
> there are bunch of plugins for Firefox to mitigate this:
> 
> AdBlock Plus, Ghostery, NoScript.
> 
> Check 'em out.
> 
> 2015-09-26 16:11 GMT+03:00 Narcis Garcia  >:
> 
> Are you "internet"?
> Or do you have only your own cookies?
> 
> Welcome to the XXI century internet, we are used as a product by
> companies unrelated to websites we visit.
> 
> 
> El 25/09/15 a les 19:30, Todd Mueller ha escrit:
> > Welcome to the Internet, we have cookies.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Narcis Garcia  > wrote:
> >> Off topic:
> >> This wiki is served with, at least, 4 spyware elements:
> >> - Facebook connect
> >> - Google analytics
> >> - Google+ platform
> >> - Twitter button
> >>
> >>
> >> El 25/09/15 a les 13:54, Sergey Bronnikov ha escrit:
> >>> Hello, everyone
> >>>
> >>> some of you asked about feature set of Virtuzzo 7 and difference
> between free
> >>> and commercial versions.  We have prepared table with feature
> comparison for
> >>> OpenVZ -stable, Virtuozzo 7 and other virtualization solutions -
> >>> https://openvz.org/Comparison
> >>>
> >>> Pay attention it is not a final feature set, some features can
> be added in
> >>> future till final release.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> sergeyb@
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