Re: [SOGo] Re push email
Hello Brian, Am 06.02.2011 21:49, schrieb Brian Lockwood: Having got SOGo working very well I want to get push email to work. My understanding with Funambol was that I could push email to clients using syncml. Wrong Am I right in thinking that this is nothing to do with SOGo and just a combo of Funambol and Cyrus. Funambol does Contacts, Calendar and Tasks sync with sogo. Mails are just as you would use them without sogo. (Probably imap) André -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] TB 3.1 doesn't show invites button
Am 04.02.2011 18:11, schrieb Ludovic Marcotte: I've just pushed a fix for this. As mentioned before, that was a limitation coming from Lightning itself. http://inverse.ca/downloads/extensions/nightly/ (Lightning 1.0b2+105ipre1). works for me. thank you! -- Mit freundlichem Gruß Willi Brune -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] regenerate entries in _quick table
On 02.02.2011 20:38, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: The easier way would be to backup your SOGo profile and then restore the buggy calendar folder via sogo-tool. Since the export tool only makes use of the main table, it's ok if the quick table entries are missing. When reimporting the data, those entries will be generated automatically... I really don't feel comfortable to export and import my data on a live system. But I have some problems as well, that might come through that. (Events not showing in TB3, or showing events even though in the recurrence rule there is an exception for that day and so on.) Is there really no good way to regenerate that data during runtime? Because I really expect a lot of our problems coming from that... Thanks, Jakob -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] regenerate entries in _quick table
On 11-02-07 7:41 AM, Jakob Lenfers wrote: I really don't feel comfortable to export and import my data on a live system. But I have some problems as well, that might come through that. (Events not showing in TB3, or showing events even though in the recurrence rule there is an exception for that day and so on.) Is there really no good way to regenerate that data during runtime? There's no 'feature' to do that from, for example, the web administrative interface in SOGo. We eventually plan to add such feature and it should be rather simple to do. Best regards, -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: www.inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (www.sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Re push email
On 11-02-07 3:16 AM, André Schild wrote: Funambol does Contacts, Calendar and Tasks sync with sogo. Mails are just as you would use them without sogo. (Probably imap) This isn't exactly true. You can use push email with Funambol but for this, you have to use their email application on your mobile device. Funambol can then be configured with your email account info and it'll push (ie., send a specially crafted SMS message AFAIR) notifications for new mails. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: www.inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (www.sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird slow performance
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Alessio Fattorini wrote: You are right. Thundebird search any contact of e-mail (when you read it) on address books. If you have a LDAP address book, Thunderbird'll search into this AB with a query, a lot of query Yes, I have the same problem with TH3+extensions (TH2+ext works fine). I have add last line on my sogo-integrator site.js for disable this behaviour [root@nethservice ~]# cat /home/sogo/sogo-integrator-thunderbird3/defaults/preferences/site.js pref(sogo-integrator.autocomplete.server.urlid, users); pref(calendar.timezone.local, /mozilla.org/20070129_1/Europe/Rome); pref(calendar.caldav.sched.enabled, true); pref(mail.showCondensedAddresses, false); --- You can disable manually too: TB Preference - Advanced - Read - Show name... in address book.. (disable it) I tried set both of them, but it didn't work for me - all our clients (TH3.1.7+ext) search all addresses included in e-mail message on the LDAP server all the time :-( Milos -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Missing files for translation
El 01/02/11 16:15, Francis Lachapelle escribió: Hi Federico On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote: SoObjects/Appointments/SOGoAptMailEnglishDeletion.wo/SOGoAptMailEnglishDeletion.html SoObjects/Appointments/SOGoAptMailEnglishInvitation.wo/SOGoAptMailEnglishInvitation.html SoObjects/Appointments/SOGoAptMailEnglishUpdate.wo/SOGoAptMailEnglishUpdate.html But, I can not find these files into the source code of the last revision (v1.3.5). Are still necessary this files? No, there are no longer required since they were replaced by .wox templates : UI/Templates/Appointments/SOGoAptMailDeletion.wox UI/Templates/Appointments/SOGoAptMailInvitation.wox UI/Templates/Appointments/SOGoAptMailUpdate.wox I just updated the FAQ. Thanks, Francis -- flachape...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3640 :: http://www.inverse.ca Inverse :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence (http://packetfence.org) Thanks for the clarification I have another doubt, I can't find the file UI/Templates/Appointments/SOGoAptMailEnglishICalReply.wox I checked the repository and I only found the file UI/Templates/Appointments/SOGoAptMailICalReply.wox, without English, also I found others versions of this file, swedish and ukrainian versions with more content, but obviously it is unreadable for me. Thanks, I wait your answer to submit the updates -- Federico -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] free/busy and Thunderbird...
Hello again, I'm getting desperate. 4 days to deadline, so here's another cry for help: I still can't get free/busy in Lightning to work, while it's working fine in the web interface. So far I found out that it works only if the local part of the email address matches the folder name for the user, which in our environment ist not the common case. Our users have a short login name (some short form of their full names, but following no consistent pattern) while the local part of the official email address is /almost/ always givenname.sn. (Before you ask: No, I have no influence on this. Our LDAP, IMAP and SMTP servers are centrally managed by the computing center for the whole university.) Now, the problem is that SOGo seems to default to naming database tables and folders after the login. There is one user in our database for whom both tables and folders named after the login (uid) and named after his email exist, so i presume this is doable and at some point during my experiments I've been almost there. How can I force SOGo to consistently name user folders according to the local part of the email address, or alternatively Lightning to look up and use the uid to the mail address entered in free/busy? -- Stefan Helms Fachinformatiker für Systemintegration (IT Specialist for Systems Integration) Fachhochschule Köln (Cologne University of Applied Sciences) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] free/busy and Thunderbird...
Hello Stefan, I'm getting desperate. 4 days to deadline, so here's another cry for help: I still can't get free/busy in Lightning to work, while it's working fine in the web interface. So far I found out that it works only if the local part of the email address matches the folder name for the user, which in our environment ist not the common case. Our users have a short login name (some short form of their full names, but following no consistent pattern) while the local part of the official email address is /almost/ always givenname.sn. (Before you ask: No, I have no influence on this. Our LDAP, IMAP and SMTP servers are centrally managed by the computing center for the whole university.) Now, the problem is that SOGo seems to default to naming database tables and folders after the login. There is one user in our database for whom both tables and folders named after the login (uid) and named after his email exist, so i presume this is doable and at some point during my experiments I've been almost there. How can I force SOGo to consistently name user folders according to the local part of the email address, or alternatively Lightning to look up and use the uid to the mail address entered in free/busy? In a previous email, you mentioned So it's either sending out invitations without a working free/busy or a working free/busy without any invitations... So, it's not clear what you did. Also, it's not clear if you still use SQL-based authentication as you mention LDAP above. Please clear up what you did to achieve what and share your .GNUstepDefaults, together with LDAP's ldif entries of a few users and/or SQL rows for users. Regards, -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: www.inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (www.sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? ( http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) Fabrice Durand 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Fabrice Durand wrote: Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? (http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) I tried the tar.gz sources of Sogo and the Sope but without success []'s marcelo 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Re push email
Thanks for improving my understanding. Brian On 7 February 2011 14:21, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote: On 11-02-07 3:16 AM, André Schild wrote: Funambol does Contacts, Calendar and Tasks sync with sogo. Mails are just as you would use them without sogo. (Probably imap) This isn't exactly true. You can use push email with Funambol but for this, you have to use their email application on your mobile device. Funambol can then be configured with your email account info and it'll push (ie., send a specially crafted SMS message AFAIR) notifications for new mails. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: www.inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (www.sogo.nu) and PacketFence ( www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird slow performance
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote: On 11-02-07 9:51 AM, Milos Wimmer wrote: I tried set both of them, but it didn't work for me - all our clients (TH3.1.7+ext) search all addresses included in e-mail message on the LDAP server all the time :-( I guess it's a new behavior (thank you, a lot!) from Thunderbird - we'll a look at it likely this week. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: www.inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (www.sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) I sent an email to this list awhile ago about this problem. https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists/arc/users/2010-10/msg00272.html In our case the delay was very noticeable because we did not have one of the attributes indexed on our ldap server. This made Thunderbird 3 usable but it still would be great if Thunderbird would not search those ldap directories for each email read. Thanks, Bill Cameron -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] sogo and openchange
Hi all I am still trying to install openchange and sogo I followed the how-tos from the openchange site and installed and set up an openchange server. I assume that everything is running ok, because the output during installation was as described in the manuals and I can see samba listening on port 139 and several samba processes running. I tried now to install the openchange connector, but that didnt work. I got the following output and have no idea what to do. Any ideas ? In file included from MAPIStoreContext.m:54: /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:57:28: error: mapistore_defs.h: No such file or directory cc1obj: warnings being treated as errors In file included from MAPIStoreContext.m:54: /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:129: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DFLT_FOLDERS' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:129: error: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want In file included from MAPIStoreContext.m:54: /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:131: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_NAMEDPROPS_PROVISION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:133: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DFLT_FOLDERS' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:145: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_TABLE_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:154: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DELETION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:174: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DFLT_FOLDERS' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:204: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DELETION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:206: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DELETION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext setURI:andMemCtx:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:270: error: 'MAPISTORE_FAI_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:270: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once MAPIStoreContext.m:270: error: for each function it appears in.) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext _tableForFID:andTableType:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:555: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:568: error: 'MAPISTORE_FAI_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:581: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext getTableProperty:withTag:atPosition:withTableType:andQueryType:inFID:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:719: error: 'MAPISTORE_PREFILTERED_QUERY' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:719: error: 'queryType' has an incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m:737: error: 'queryType' has an incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m: At top level: cc1obj: error: type '({anonymous})' does not have a known size MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext openMessage:forKey:inTable:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:796: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m:828: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext openMessage:withMID:inFID:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:847: error: 'MAPISTORE_FAI_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:856: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext setPropertiesWithFMID:ofTableType:inRow:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1210: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1233: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext setProperty:withFMID:ofTableType:fromFile:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1263: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1277: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext getProperty:withFMID:ofTableType:intoFile:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1306: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1337: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext deleteMessageWithMID:inFID:withFlags:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1463: error: 'MAPISTORE_FAI_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1468: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext releaseRecordWithFMID:ofTableType:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1509: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1533: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function)
[SOGo] WG: sogo and openchange
Sorry I forgot to mention that I am running Ubuntu 10.04. Mit freundlichem Gruß Carsten Laun-De Lellis Dipl.-Ing. Elektrotechnik Certified Information Systems Auditor (CISA) Hauptstrasse 13 D-67705 Trippstadt Phone: +49 (6306) 992140 Mobile: +49 (151) 27530865 email: carsten.delel...@delellis.net Von: Carsten Laun-De Lellis [mailto:carsten.delel...@delellis.net] Gesendet: Montag, 7. Februar 2011 23:52 An: users@sogo.nu Betreff: sogo and openchange Hi all I am still trying to install openchange and sogo I followed the how-tos from the openchange site and installed and set up an openchange server. I assume that everything is running ok, because the output during installation was as described in the manuals and I can see samba listening on port 139 and several samba processes running. I tried now to install the openchange connector, but that didnt work. I got the following output and have no idea what to do. Any ideas ? In file included from MAPIStoreContext.m:54: /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:57:28: error: mapistore_defs.h: No such file or directory cc1obj: warnings being treated as errors In file included from MAPIStoreContext.m:54: /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:129: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DFLT_FOLDERS' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:129: error: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want In file included from MAPIStoreContext.m:54: /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:131: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_NAMEDPROPS_PROVISION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:133: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DFLT_FOLDERS' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:145: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_TABLE_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:154: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DELETION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:174: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DFLT_FOLDERS' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:204: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DELETION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list /usr/local/samba/include/mapistore/mapistore.h:206: error: 'enum MAPISTORE_DELETION_TYPE' declared inside parameter list MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext setURI:andMemCtx:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:270: error: 'MAPISTORE_FAI_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:270: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once MAPIStoreContext.m:270: error: for each function it appears in.) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext _tableForFID:andTableType:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:555: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:568: error: 'MAPISTORE_FAI_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:581: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext getTableProperty:withTag:atPosition:withTableType:andQueryType:inFID:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:719: error: 'MAPISTORE_PREFILTERED_QUERY' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:719: error: 'queryType' has an incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m:737: error: 'queryType' has an incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m: At top level: cc1obj: error: type '({anonymous})' does not have a known size MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext openMessage:forKey:inTable:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:796: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m:828: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext openMessage:withMID:inFID:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:847: error: 'MAPISTORE_FAI_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:856: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE_TABLE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext setPropertiesWithFMID:ofTableType:inRow:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1210: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1233: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext setProperty:withFMID:ofTableType:fromFile:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1263: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1277: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext getProperty:withFMID:ofTableType:intoFile:]': MAPIStoreContext.m:1306: error: 'MAPISTORE_MESSAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m:1337: error: 'MAPISTORE_FOLDER' undeclared (first use in this function) MAPIStoreContext.m: In function '-[MAPIStoreContext
[SOGo] ANN: SOGo ZEG with Native Outlook Compatibility - TP4
Inverse is proud to announce the fourth downloadable version of SOGo ZEG with native Microsoft Outlook compatibility. The virtual appliance consists of the latest development version of SOGo, SOPE and OpenChange, properly installed and configured. Note that the native Microsoft Outlook compatibility is still *considered as experimental*. The fundamentals have been developed and the progress towards an end-user usable version will be fast from now on. Nonetheless, we release this Technology Preview ZEG edition to show how promising this is. == Getting it == To download ZEG Technology Preview, simply point your browser to http://www.sogo.nu/english/downloads/zeg.html Look for Virtual Appliance - Native Outlook Compatibility. For configuration instructions, look at the following FAQ: http://www.sogo.nu/english/nc/support/faq/article/how-to-configure-outlook-to-work-with-openchange.html == Changes == Here is a list of changes performed by the Inverse team since TP3 was released : * Initial support for the Drafts and Deleted Items folders * More internal cache fixes (which would prevent having to restart OpenChange/Outlook for data coherency) * Fixed the SeekRow/QueryPosition issue which would cause slowdowns such as the ones experienced with the Sent Items mail folder * Initial sorting support (for mails, the work is completed - GCS and FS type folders are to be done) * Tasks are now displayed immediately (ie., the window doesn't need to be re-sized for them to appear) * Various small bug fixes and minor improvements == Upcoming improvements == The follow improvements will occur in the next following days, likely resulting in a TP5 : * Attachments support for email messages (send/receive) * Initial recurrence support for events and tasks * Integrate the mapistore_v2 work which will allow us to support all SOGo user folders and all SOGo users easily (making freebusy lookup for other users more easy) Some bug fixes or improvements need to be added in OpenChange to make the solution even more usable and we are working with them to : * Add notifications support, so refresh of views will occur after creation/modifications of messages * Reminder issues which can cause Outlook to disconnect momentarily == Helping Out == There are many ways you can help us. You can: * spread the good word about this technology preview! * follow our development in the users@sogo.nu mailing list and update regularly the components mentioned above * contact us if you want to sponsor specific features with regard to Outlook / SOGo compatibility Thanks, -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: www.inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (www.sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Hi, i'm trying to install sogo on openSUSE too. Am 07.02.2011 20:54, schrieb Fabrice Durand: So try with the src.rpm. I saw that the gnustep-make and gnustep-base are include in the opensuse distribution, so try with this files: http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm rpm -ivh sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm rpm -ivh sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm Done that and it installs the package 100% but there are no new files in the Folder where i installed the packages, am i missing something? In the sope.spec file change all the /etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release and change %define dist_suffix fc11 by the abbreviation of your distribution. Same thing in the sogo.spec file (/etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release) I suppose those spec Files are installed by the above step, if not where can i find them? I suppose that the file /etc/suse-release exist Launch rpmbuild -ba sope.spec (install dependencies by yum ) Launch again rpmbuild -ba sope.spec If all goes well until the end of compilation, launch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec (install dependencies by yum and by rpm where your rpm files are) Relaunch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec And if all goes well you will have rpm files for your distribution. Maybe you will have to modify the sogod script and the sogo.conf file . Regard Fabrice Durand 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Fabrice Durand wrote: Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? (http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) I tried the tar.gz sources of Sogo and the Sope but without success []'s marcelo 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
2011/2/8 Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de Hi, i'm trying to install sogo on openSUSE too. Am 07.02.2011 20:54, schrieb Fabrice Durand: So try with the src.rpm. I saw that the gnustep-make and gnustep-base are include in the opensuse distribution, so try with this files: http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm rpm -ivh sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm rpm -ivh sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm Done that and it installs the package 100% but there are no new files in the Folder where i installed the packages, am i missing something? The src.rpm contain sope source and sogo source and the sope.spec and sogo.spec In the sope.spec file change all the /etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release and change %define dist_suffix fc11 by the abbreviation of your distribution. Same thing in the sogo.spec file (/etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release) I suppose those spec Files are installed by the above step, if not where can i find them? On opensuse, i don't know where the spec files are, but on fedora it's in the $home/rpmbuild/SPECS folder and in centos it's in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS . Try updatedb and locate sope.spec I suppose that the file /etc/suse-release exist Launch rpmbuild -ba sope.spec (install dependencies by yum ) Launch again rpmbuild -ba sope.spec If all goes well until the end of compilation, launch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec (install dependencies by yum and by rpm where your rpm files are) Relaunch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec And if all goes well you will have rpm files for your distribution. Maybe you will have to modify the sogod script and the sogo.conf file . Regard Fabrice Durand 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com Fabrice Durand wrote: Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? ( http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) I tried the tar.gz sources of Sogo and the Sope but without success []'s marcelo 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß Fabrice Durand -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Alright found them and changed everything according to your tutorial.. now when i'm inside the SPECS Folder and trying to run rpmbuild -ba sope.spec it gives me this error: File /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/%{sope_source}: No such file or directory The Directory and the sope src.rpm is in there, did i forget something? Am 08.02.2011 08:13, schrieb Fabrice Durand: 2011/2/8 Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de Hi, i'm trying to install sogo on openSUSE too. Am 07.02.2011 20:54, schrieb Fabrice Durand: So try with the src.rpm. I saw that the gnustep-make and gnustep-base are include in the opensuse distribution, so try with this files: http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm rpm -ivh sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm rpm -ivh sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm Done that and it installs the package 100% but there are no new files in the Folder where i installed the packages, am i missing something? The src.rpm contain sope source and sogo source and the sope.spec and sogo.spec In the sope.spec file change all the /etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release and change %define dist_suffix fc11 by the abbreviation of your distribution. Same thing in the sogo.spec file (/etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release) I suppose those spec Files are installed by the above step, if not where can i find them? On opensuse, i don't know where the spec files are, but on fedora it's in the $home/rpmbuild/SPECS folder and in centos it's in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS . Try updatedb and locate sope.spec I suppose that the file /etc/suse-release exist Launch rpmbuild -ba sope.spec (install dependencies by yum ) Launch again rpmbuild -ba sope.spec If all goes well until the end of compilation, launch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec (install dependencies by yum and by rpm where your rpm files are) Relaunch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec And if all goes well you will have rpm files for your distribution. Maybe you will have to modify the sogod script and the sogo.conf file . Regard Fabrice Durand 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Fabrice Durand wrote: Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? (http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) I tried the tar.gz sources of Sogo and the Sope but without success []'s marcelo 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an:mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet:http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß Fabrice Durand -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Does the /etc/suse-release exist. ? Le 8 févr. 2011 08:41, Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de a écrit : Alright found them and changed everything according to your tutorial.. now when i'm inside the SPECS Folder and trying to run rpmbuild -ba sope.spec it gives me this error: File /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/%{sope_source}: No such file or directory The Directory and the sope src.rpm is in there, did i forget something? Am 08.02.2011 08:13, schrieb Fabrice Durand: 2011/2/8 Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de Hi, i'm trying to install sogo on openSUSE too. Am 07.02.2011 20:54, schrieb Fabrice Durand: So try with the src.rpm. I saw that the gnustep-make and gnustep-base are include in the opensuse distribution, so try with this files: http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm rpm -ivh sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm rpm -ivh sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm Done that and it installs the package 100% but there are no new files in the Folder where i installed the packages, am i missing something? The src.rpm contain sope source and sogo source and the sope.spec and sogo.spec In the sope.spec file change all the /etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release and change %define dist_suffix fc11 by the abbreviation of your distribution. Same thing in the sogo.spec file (/etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release) I suppose those spec Files are installed by the above step, if not where can i find them? On opensuse, i don't know where the spec files are, but on fedora it's in the $home/rpmbuild/SPECS folder and in centos it's in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS . Try updatedb and locate sope.spec I suppose that the file /etc/suse-release exist Launch rpmbuild -ba sope.spec (install dependencies by yum ) Launch again rpmbuild -ba sope.spec If all goes well until the end of compilation, launch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec (install dependencies by yum and by rpm where your rpm files are) Relaunch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec And if all goes well you will have rpm files for your distribution. Maybe you will have to modify the sogod script and the sogo.conf file . Regard Fabrice Durand 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Fabrice Durand wrote: Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? (http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) I tried the tar.gz sources of Sogo and the Sope but without success []'s marcelo 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an:mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet:http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß Fabrice Durand -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Yes it does, but i think i wrote it according to your tutorial in all small letters... on my system it's written in small and capital Letters, possible that's the fault which causes the error?! Am 08.02.2011 08:46, schrieb Fabrice Durand: Does the /etc/suse-release exist. ? Le 8 févr. 2011 08:41, Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de a écrit : Alright found them and changed everything according to your tutorial.. now when i'm inside the SPECS Folder and trying to run rpmbuild -ba sope.spec it gives me this error: File /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/%{sope_source}: No such file or directory The Directory and the sope src.rpm is in there, did i forget something? Am 08.02.2011 08:13, schrieb Fabrice Durand: 2011/2/8 Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de Hi, i'm trying to install sogo on openSUSE too. Am 07.02.2011 20:54, schrieb Fabrice Durand: So try with the src.rpm. I saw that the gnustep-make and gnustep-base are include in the opensuse distribution, so try with this files: http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm rpm -ivh sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm rpm -ivh sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm Done that and it installs the package 100% but there are no new files in the Folder where i installed the packages, am i missing something? The src.rpm contain sope source and sogo source and the sope.spec and sogo.spec In the sope.spec file change all the /etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release and change %define dist_suffix fc11 by the abbreviation of your distribution. Same thing in the sogo.spec file (/etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release) I suppose those spec Files are installed by the above step, if not where can i find them? On opensuse, i don't know where the spec files are, but on fedora it's in the $home/rpmbuild/SPECS folder and in centos it's in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS . Try updatedb and locate sope.spec I suppose that the file /etc/suse-release exist Launch rpmbuild -ba sope.spec (install dependencies by yum ) Launch again rpmbuild -ba sope.spec If all goes well until the end of compilation, launch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec (install dependencies by yum and by rpm where your rpm files are) Relaunch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec And if all goes well you will have rpm files for your distribution. Maybe you will have to modify the sogod script and the sogo.conf file . Regard Fabrice Durand 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Fabrice Durand wrote: Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? (http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) I tried the tar.gz sources of Sogo and the Sope but without success []'s marcelo 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an:mailto:kontakt...@zag.de mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet:http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß Fabrice Durand -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß -- users@sogo.nu mailto:users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Opensuse and SOGo
Yes Le 8 févr. 2011 08:48, Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de a écrit : Yes it does, but i think i wrote it according to your tutorial in all small letters... on my system it's written in small and capital Letters, possible that's the fault which causes the error?! Am 08.02.2011 08:46, schrieb Fabrice Durand: Does the /etc/suse-release exist. ? Le 8 févr. 2011 08:41, Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de a écrit : Alright found them and changed everything according to your tutorial.. now when i'm inside the SPECS Folder and trying to run rpmbuild -ba sope.spec it gives me this error: File /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/%{sope_source}: No such file or directory The Directory and the sope src.rpm is in there, did i forget something? Am 08.02.2011 08:13, schrieb Fabrice Durand: 2011/2/8 Stefan Fuhrberg stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de mailto:stefan.fuhrb...@zag.de Hi, i'm trying to install sogo on openSUSE too. Am 07.02.2011 20:54, schrieb Fabrice Durand: So try with the src.rpm. I saw that the gnustep-make and gnustep-base are include in the opensuse distribution, so try with this files: http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/1.3.5a/FC11/SRPMS/sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm rpm -ivh sope49-4.9-20110127_1664.fc11.1.src.rpm rpm -ivh sogo-1.3.5a-1.fc11.src.rpm Done that and it installs the package 100% but there are no new files in the Folder where i installed the packages, am i missing something? The src.rpm contain sope source and sogo source and the sope.spec and sogo.spec In the sope.spec file change all the /etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release and change %define dist_suffix fc11 by the abbreviation of your distribution. Same thing in the sogo.spec file (/etc/fedora-release by /etc/suse-release) I suppose those spec Files are installed by the above step, if not where can i find them? On opensuse, i don't know where the spec files are, but on fedora it's in the $home/rpmbuild/SPECS folder and in centos it's in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS . Try updatedb and locate sope.spec I suppose that the file /etc/suse-release exist Launch rpmbuild -ba sope.spec (install dependencies by yum ) Launch again rpmbuild -ba sope.spec If all goes well until the end of compilation, launch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec (install dependencies by yum and by rpm where your rpm files are) Relaunch rpmbuild -ba sogo.spec And if all goes well you will have rpm files for your distribution. Maybe you will have to modify the sogod script and the sogo.conf file . Regard Fabrice Durand 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Fabrice Durand wrote: Hi, did you try to compil the src.rpm of sope and sogo ? (http://www.sogo.nu/files/downloads/SOGo/RHEL5/SRPMS/ ) I tried the tar.gz sources of Sogo and the Sope but without success []'s marcelo 2011/2/7 Marcelo anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com mailto:anc...@gmail.com Hi all, Does anyone have an installation tutorial SOGO 1.3.5 on openSUSE 11.1? Has anyone installed? Thanks all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an:mailto:kontakt...@zag.de mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet:http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß Fabrice Durand -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß -- users@sogo.nu mailto:users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen ZAG Personaldienste i.A. Stefan Fuhrberg Ihre Antwort richten Sie bitte an: mailto:kontakt...@zag.de Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.zag.de ZAG Verwaltungs-Gesellschaft GmbH IT-Abteilung Nikolaistraße 11 30159 Hannover Fon: 0511-12606444 Fax: 0511-12606419 Amtsgericht: Hannover Handelsregister: HRB 52841 Geschäftsführer: Wolfgang Klenner, Bastian Tau, Martin Weiß -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists