Re: [SOGo] SOGo V2, sieve and German umlauts - suuggestions

2018-03-19 Thread goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de 
Hi Christian,

> Am 16.03.2018 um 09:30 schrieb Christian Mack 
> (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) :
> 
> Am 13.03.2018 um 13:56 schrieb Götz Reinicke
> (goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de ):
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 13.03.2018 um 13:12 schrieb Götz Reinicke 
>>> (goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de) :
>>> 
>>> Hi Christian,
>>> 
 Am 13.03.2018 um 11:12 schrieb Christian Mack 
 (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) :
 
 Hello Götz
 
 Am 12.03.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Götz Reinicke
 (goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de):
> Hi,
> 
> an user has some mail folders with German Umlauts in the name and adding 
> sieve filters will not work.
> 
> I found some bug reports and the suggestion to change 
> „SOGoSieveFolderEncoding = UTF-8“.
> 
> https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=3904 
> 
> 
> Can I change that on my livesystem which is on the latest SOGo V2 without 
> breaking something? Dose the user has to recreate the filter?
> 
> On the dovecot side the folder is „Verb &- Institutionen“ so may 
> be the „&“ in the middle is a problem too?
> 
> 
 
 The setting of SOGoSieveFolderEncoding must match your dovecot setting
 in mail_location.
 Default in Dovecot is mUTF-7-encoding
 If there is a ":UTF-8" in mail_location, then you have UTF-8-encoding in
 dovecot.
 
 If changed in SOGo on an already productive server, you have to change
 the encoding of all folders created with SOGo and non-ASCII characters
 to UTF-8 with:
 doveadm mailbox mutf7 -7 ${WRONG_FOLDER_NAME}
 Best to do that in a script ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hm. ok. I checked and dovecot and SOGo are configured/using utf-7 (no 
>>> :UTF-8 in dovecot conf) so the sieve filter should work by default ?!
>> 
>> More reading revealed, that pigeonhole uses UTF-8 …. already …. 
>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/Troubleshooting 
>>  
>> > >
>> 
>> So, may be it would be cool to have an pigeonhole option to set the encoding 
>> for systems which are using UTF-7 for a lng time …?
>> 
>> Or I do have to convert everything to uff-8 …
>> 
> 
> Sorry, my fault :-/
> 
> I mixed it up with changing the coding on the dovecot side in a
> production setup.
> 
> As pigeonhole already does the conversion to mUTF-7 from UTF-8 if
> needed, you have to provide folder names in sieve rules in UTF-8.
> 
> This means setting SOGoSieveFolderEncoding to "UTF-8" and afterwards
> changing (saving) again all sieve rules in SOGo, which use special
> character folders.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.
> 

No problem, it sounded reasonable, as character encoding is always some sort of 
confusing and work especially if you run setups for a couple of years without 
doing every minor and major tweak over time. My current challenge is mysql utf8 
:( vrs. Utf8mb4 for other applications we run …. 

BTW: setting UTF-8 for SOGoSieveFolderEncoding and saving the rules 
again works!

Thanks and regards . Götz

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Re: [SOGo] SOGo V2, sieve and German umlauts - suuggestions

2018-03-13 Thread goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de 


> Am 13.03.2018 um 13:12 schrieb Götz Reinicke (goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de) 
> :
> 
> Hi Christian,
> 
>> Am 13.03.2018 um 11:12 schrieb Christian Mack 
>> (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) :
>> 
>> Hello Götz
>> 
>> Am 12.03.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Götz Reinicke
>> (goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de):
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> an user has some mail folders with German Umlauts in the name and adding 
>>> sieve filters will not work.
>>> 
>>> I found some bug reports and the suggestion to change 
>>> „SOGoSieveFolderEncoding = UTF-8“.
>>> 
>>> https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=3904 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can I change that on my livesystem which is on the latest SOGo V2 without 
>>> breaking something? Dose the user has to recreate the filter?
>>> 
>>> On the dovecot side the folder is „Verb &- Institutionen“ so may be 
>>> the „&“ in the middle is a problem too?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> The setting of SOGoSieveFolderEncoding must match your dovecot setting
>> in mail_location.
>> Default in Dovecot is mUTF-7-encoding
>> If there is a ":UTF-8" in mail_location, then you have UTF-8-encoding in
>> dovecot.
>> 
>> If changed in SOGo on an already productive server, you have to change
>> the encoding of all folders created with SOGo and non-ASCII characters
>> to UTF-8 with:
>> doveadm mailbox mutf7 -7 ${WRONG_FOLDER_NAME}
>> Best to do that in a script ;-)
> 
> 
> Hm. ok. I checked and dovecot and SOGo are configured/using utf-7 (no :UTF-8 
> in dovecot conf) so the sieve filter should work by default ?!

More reading revealed, that pigeonhole uses UTF-8 …. already …. 
https://wiki.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/Troubleshooting 


So, may be it would be cool to have an pigeonhole option to set the encoding 
for systems which are using UTF-7 for a lng time …?

Or I do have to convert everything to uff-8 …

Regards . Götz
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo V2, sieve and German umlauts - suuggestions

2018-03-13 Thread goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de 
Hi Christian,

> Am 13.03.2018 um 11:12 schrieb Christian Mack 
> (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) :
> 
> Hello Götz
> 
> Am 12.03.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Götz Reinicke
> (goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de):
>> Hi,
>> 
>> an user has some mail folders with German Umlauts in the name and adding 
>> sieve filters will not work.
>> 
>> I found some bug reports and the suggestion to change 
>> „SOGoSieveFolderEncoding = UTF-8“.
>> 
>> https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=3904 
>> 
>> Can I change that on my livesystem which is on the latest SOGo V2 without 
>> breaking something? Dose the user has to recreate the filter?
>> 
>> On the dovecot side the folder is „Verb &- Institutionen“ so may be 
>> the „&“ in the middle is a problem too?
>> 
>> 
> 
> The setting of SOGoSieveFolderEncoding must match your dovecot setting
> in mail_location.
> Default in Dovecot is mUTF-7-encoding
> If there is a ":UTF-8" in mail_location, then you have UTF-8-encoding in
> dovecot.
> 
> If changed in SOGo on an already productive server, you have to change
> the encoding of all folders created with SOGo and non-ASCII characters
> to UTF-8 with:
> doveadm mailbox mutf7 -7 ${WRONG_FOLDER_NAME}
> Best to do that in a script ;-)


Hm. ok. I checked and dovecot and SOGo are configured/using utf-7 (no :UTF-8 in 
dovecot conf) so the sieve filter should work by default ?!

I’m confused @-) Any hints?

Regards . Götz


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Re: [SOGo] SOGo V2, sieve and German umlauts - suuggestions

2018-03-13 Thread Christian Mack 
Hello Götz

Am 12.03.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Götz Reinicke
(goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de):
> Hi,
> 
> an user has some mail folders with German Umlauts in the name and adding 
> sieve filters will not work.
> 
> I found some bug reports and the suggestion to change 
> „SOGoSieveFolderEncoding = UTF-8“.
> 
> https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=3904 
> 
> Can I change that on my livesystem which is on the latest SOGo V2 without 
> breaking something? Dose the user has to recreate the filter?
> 
> On the dovecot side the folder is „Verb &- Institutionen“ so may be 
> the „&“ in the middle is a problem too?
> 
> 

The setting of SOGoSieveFolderEncoding must match your dovecot setting
in mail_location.
Default in Dovecot is mUTF-7-encoding
If there is a ":UTF-8" in mail_location, then you have UTF-8-encoding in
dovecot.

If changed in SOGo on an already productive server, you have to change
the encoding of all folders created with SOGo and non-ASCII characters
to UTF-8 with:
doveadm mailbox mutf7 -7 ${WRONG_FOLDER_NAME}
Best to do that in a script ;-)


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

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[SOGo] SOGo V2, sieve and German umlauts - suuggestions

2018-03-12 Thread goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de 
Hi,

an user has some mail folders with German Umlauts in the name and adding sieve 
filters will not work.

I found some bug reports and the suggestion to change „SOGoSieveFolderEncoding 
= UTF-8“.

https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=3904 

Can I change that on my livesystem which is on the latest SOGo V2 without 
breaking something? Dose the user has to recreate the filter?

On the dovecot side the folder is „Verb &- Institutionen“ so may be the 
„&“ in the middle is a problem too?

Thanks for feedback and suggestions. Regards . Götz


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