Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 2014-01-15 1:26 PM, Martin Simovic wrote: Software is installed and configured on same host. Domain users can send / receive mail via Outlook or web interface, Calendar/Contacts synchronisation and sharing works too. So far so good. However, I found a possible show-stopper issue: whilst on webmail, newly received messages appear automatically in Inbox (this is controlled via parameter SOGoMailMessageCheck = every_minute;) but this does not happen when using Outlook. New messages do not appear in Inbox unless “update folder (SHIFT+F9)” is manually triggered. I have seen this problem mentioned on this list in the past (last post about a year ago, sogo version 2.0.2). Did anything change since then? Any chance this is resolved? This feature has not yet been implemented in OpenChange. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: http://inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence (http://packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
Same issue with CentOS 6.x also On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Martin Simovic wrote: > Hi, > > I am evaluating SOGo/Openchange for business use in the office. > My setup is as follows: > Server: > - Ubuntu 12.04.3 > - SOGO 2.1.1b (inverse repositories) > - Samba 4.0.1 (inverse repositories) > - Openchange 2.0 (inverse repositories) > - postfix, dovecot, apache2, mysql (ubuntu repositories) > > Software is installed and configured on same host. Domain users can send / > receive mail via Outlook or web interface, Calendar/Contacts > synchronisation and sharing works too. So far so good. However, I found a > possible show-stopper issue: whilst on webmail, newly received messages > appear automatically in Inbox (this is controlled via parameter > SOGoMailMessageCheck = every_minute;) but this does not happen when using > Outlook. New messages do not appear in Inbox unless “update folder > (SHIFT+F9)” is manually triggered. > > I have seen this problem mentioned on this list in the past (last post > about a year ago, sogo version 2.0.2). Did anything change since then? Any > chance this is resolved? > > Best Regards > Martin Simovic -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 13:35 -0500, Ludovic Marcotte wrote: > > I have seen this problem mentioned on this list in the past (last post > > about a year ago, sogo version 2.0.2). Did anything change since then? Any > > chance this is resolved? > This feature has not yet been implemented in OpenChange. This is not completely true ;-) This feature exists in OpenChange master since 2011. I had been writing a dovecot plugin and also the related code in ocsmanger and openchange server, therefore I ended up with a working implementation used by some customers. The code has been disabled in master after one of the last sogo to openchange master branch merges and it is unlikely it can gets activated today without substantial adjustments. Therefore, I ended up with a new and easier design that we plan to develop between Q1 and Q2. It is highly possible this feature integrates Zentyal 3.5 community in the first place, combined to feature addition and documentation in openchange master. Br, Julien. -- Julien Kerihuel j.kerih...@openchange.org OpenChange Project Founder Twitter: http://twitter.com/jkerihuel GPG Fingerprint: 0B55 783D A781 6329 108A B609 7EF6 FE11 A35F 1F79 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 15 Jan 2014, at 19:35, Ludovic Marcotte wrote: > On 2014-01-15 1:26 PM, Martin Simovic wrote: >> Software is installed and configured on same host. Domain users can send / >> receive mail via Outlook or web interface, Calendar/Contacts synchronisation >> and sharing works too. So far so good. However, I found a possible >> show-stopper issue: whilst on webmail, newly received messages appear >> automatically in Inbox (this is controlled via parameter >> SOGoMailMessageCheck = every_minute;) but this does not happen when using >> Outlook. New messages do not appear in Inbox unless “update folder >> (SHIFT+F9)” is manually triggered. >> >> I have seen this problem mentioned on this list in the past (last post about >> a year ago, sogo version 2.0.2). Did anything change since then? Any chance >> this is resolved? > This feature has not yet been implemented in OpenChange. > > -- > Ludovic Marcotte Thanks for the reply. I guess the best place to ask is openchange mailing list which unfortunately seems dead (last message 6 months ago!). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 11:51 +0100, Martin Simovic wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I guess the best place to ask is openchange > mailing list which unfortunately seems dead (last message 6 months > ago!). Hi Martin, It's true there is not much activity on the mailing-list but I can guarantee neither the mailing-list or the project is dead :-) I am looking forward unifying openchange users across communities this year, but this is a very time-consuming task and I am at the moment more focused on development, strategy and management of OpenChange. I will definitely need help from my peers with that. If you have a questions for the openchange mailing-list, I don't think you will end up without answers, so don't hesitate to post. Looking forward reading your comments/questions on the openchange devel mailing-list. Cheers, Julien. -- Julien Kerihuel j.kerih...@openchange.org OpenChange Project Founder Twitter: http://twitter.com/jkerihuel GPG Fingerprint: 0B55 783D A781 6329 108A B609 7EF6 FE11 A35F 1F79 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 2014-01-16 7:34 AM, Julien Kerihuel wrote: On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 13:35 -0500, Ludovic Marcotte wrote: I have seen this problem mentioned on this list in the past (last post about a year ago, sogo version 2.0.2). Did anything change since then? Any chance this is resolved? This feature has not yet been implemented in OpenChange. This is not completely true ;-) This feature exists in OpenChange master since 2011. Can someone please comment - We will be rolling SOGo out very soon, and after some testing for a few weeks with our current Thunderbird base, we will test with Outlook, then allow users to switch to Outlook if they want to. So... Is this about 'IDLE' notifications? Meaning - I can still set Outlook to poll the server every few minutes and that will work ok? Thanks -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 09:30 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > So... Is this about 'IDLE' notifications? Meaning - I can still set > Outlook to poll the server every few minutes and that will work ok? I suppose you are referring to 'IMAP IDLE' notifications? The feature we discussed was indeed about IDLE notification but through Microsoft Exchange protocols. Cheers, Julien. -- Julien Kerihuel j.kerih...@openchange.org OpenChange Project Founder Twitter: http://twitter.com/jkerihuel GPG Fingerprint: 0B55 783D A781 6329 108A B609 7EF6 FE11 A35F 1F79 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 16 Jan 2014, at 15:30, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2014-01-16 7:34 AM, Julien Kerihuel wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 13:35 -0500, Ludovic Marcotte wrote: I have seen this problem mentioned on this list in the past (last post about a year ago, sogo version 2.0.2). Did anything change since then? Any chance this is resolved? > >>> This feature has not yet been implemented in OpenChange. > >> This is not completely true ;-) >> >> This feature exists in OpenChange master since 2011. > > Can someone please comment - > > We will be rolling SOGo out very soon, and after some testing for a few weeks > with our current Thunderbird base, we will test with Outlook, then allow > users to switch to Outlook if they want to. > > So... Is this about 'IDLE' notifications? Meaning - I can still set Outlook > to poll the server every few minutes and that will work ok? No it is not. IDLE notifications are used when account is configured as IMAP. Openchange uses MS Exchange native MAPI protocol which uses different mechanism and has nothing to do with IMAP. Configuring the server to sent/receive in any interval does not solve the situation either. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 2014-01-16 10:02 AM, Martin Simovic wrote: Configuring the server to sent/receive in any interval does not solve the situation either. I wasn't talking about configuring the SERVER, I was talking about configuring OUTLOOK to POLL the server periodically (ie, 'Check for new mail every N minutes')... I can't believe that wouldn't work? -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 16 Jan 2014, at 17:32, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2014-01-16 10:02 AM, Martin Simovic wrote: >> Configuring the server to sent/receive in any interval does not solve the >> situation either. > > I wasn't talking about configuring the SERVER, I was talking about > configuring OUTLOOK to POLL the server periodically (ie, 'Check for new mail > every N minutes')... > > I can't believe that wouldn't work? Sorry I sued the wrong expression. No it will not work since you can only configure outlook to “send/receive” in given intervals (F9) however what you would need is “update folder” (SHIFT+F9) in intervals which is not configurable as far as I know. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 2014-01-16 12:02 PM, Martin Simovic wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 17:32, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-16 10:02 AM, Martin Simovic wrote: Configuring the server to sent/receive in any interval does not solve the situation either. I wasn't talking about configuring the SERVER, I was talking about configuring OUTLOOK to POLL the server periodically (ie, 'Check for new mail every N minutes')... I can't believe that wouldn't work? Sorry I sued the wrong expression. No it will not work since you can only configure outlook to “send/receive” in given intervals (F9) however what you would need is “update folder” (SHIFT+F9) in intervals which is not configurable as far as I know. Wow... bummer... that pretty much guarantees that the guy who has been pushing to migrate our mail server to hosted Exchange (or Office365) will start making considerably more noise. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 01/16/14 18:02, Martin Simovic wrote: > > On 16 Jan 2014, at 17:32, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> On 2014-01-16 10:02 AM, Martin Simovic wrote: >>> Configuring the server to sent/receive in any interval does not solve the >>> situation either. >> >> I wasn't talking about configuring the SERVER, I was talking about >> configuring OUTLOOK to POLL the server periodically (ie, 'Check for new mail >> every N minutes')... >> >> I can't believe that wouldn't work? > > Sorry I sued the wrong expression. No it will not work since you can only > configure outlook to “send/receive” in given intervals (F9) however what you > would need is “update folder” (SHIFT+F9) in intervals which is not > configurable as far as I know. > The polling interval seems to be configurable only on Exchange itself, there are no client-side options. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996515%28v=EXCHG.80%29.aspx Giovanni -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
i think it could be possible to programmatically poll server via VBA script, I know it's a workaround but it's cheaper than an exchange server , and it doesn't need antivirus, software updates, reboots, licences and the other funny stuffs that come with windows servers.. i think something like this http://slipstick.com/developer/code-samples/monitor-secondary-mailbox-messages/ could work... original message- Da: "Tanstaafl" tansta...@libertytrek.org A: users@sogo.nu Data: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:30:01 -0500 - > On 2014-01-16 7:34 AM, Julien Kerihuel j.kerih...@openchange.org wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 13:35 -0500, Ludovic Marcotte wrote: I have seen this problem mentioned on this list in the past (last post about a year ago, sogo version 2.0.2). Did anything change since then? Any chance this is resolved? > >>> This feature has not yet been implemented in OpenChange. > >> This is not completely true ;-) >> >> This feature exists in OpenChange master since 2011. > > Can someone please comment - > > We will be rolling SOGo out very soon, and after some testing for a few > weeks with our current Thunderbird base, we will test with Outlook, then > allow users to switch to Outlook if they want to. > > So... Is this about 'IDLE' notifications? Meaning - I can still set > Outlook to poll the server every few minutes and that will work ok? > > Thanks > -- > users@sogo.nu > https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists > -- -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
I agree! Licensing costs, overhead, security and privacy are big issues where I work. We opted for Outlook 2010 to save licensing fees over 2013 or Office365 Our users are confirmed Thunderbird and Firefox users and only need Outlook as an interface to their accounting software. IF polling is an issue, then something like VBA and VBScript makes sense. On 01/16/2014 03:44 PM, daniele Borini wrote: i think it could be possible to programmatically poll server via VBA script, I know it's a workaround but it's cheaper than an exchange server , and it doesn't need antivirus, software updates, reboots, licences and the other funny stuffs that come with windows servers.. i think something like thishttp://slipstick.com/developer/code-samples/monitor-secondary-mailbox-messages/ could work... -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Outlook not refreshing Inbox automatically
On 2014-01-16 5:00 PM, Steve Ankeny wrote: I agree! Licensing costs, overhead, security and privacy are big issues where I work. We opted for Outlook 2010 to save licensing fees over 2013 or Office365 Our users are confirmed Thunderbird and Firefox users and only need Outlook as an interface to their accounting software. IF polling is an issue, then something like VBA and VBScript makes sense. And this should be officially supported by SOGo, even if only as some kind of 'addon', or 'contrib', so everyone doesn't have to 'roll their own'... -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
