Re: any extra language effort for SA? (esp. Asian SPAM)

2005-11-04 Thread Alan Premselaar

Jason Haar wrote:

Hi there

I just did a stat-run on email I received 31st Oct, and found that of
the mail SA scored lower than 5/5 (i.e. SA classified as ham), a large
amount was SPAM. In fact it only caught 80% of the SPAM I received that
day (this is with SA 3.1.0)

Of that I was able to tell that the vast majority of missed SPAM was
actually Asian SPAM - the Subject: lines alone were 100% non-ASCII - bit
of a give-away as I am ignorant and can't speak anything but
Kiwi-English ;-)

If I removed that Asian SPAM from the figures, the effectiveness of SA
shot up to 98% - pretty darn good!

Now personally I can run SA on my workstation with ok_locales en and
bang extra points onto non-English mail - but I certainly can't do that
for our company as a whole - which has customers from every
country/nationality, etc.

So the only thing I can think of is that there appears to be a need for
more non-English rulesets to add points for different language usages of
viagra/porn/whatever.

Am I correct in my thinking, and if so is the SA group getting help from
non-English developers to make this happen? I see a couple of
body_test rules that appear to be for Spanish and Polish - but no others?



Jason,

 I know that I have personally contributed some rules to catch certain 
phrases in Japanese, however this seems like a really scenario for 
manual bayes training.


While the auto-learning is convenient and often good enough, I think 
the general concensus is that you should do at least a certain bit of 
manual training so that your bayes databases better represent your mail 
traffic patterns.


hope this helps,

alan


RE: Why did this mail get any score at all?

2005-11-04 Thread Pierre Thomson
Mathias Homann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 here's the headers of a mail that got scored (ok, not very high but it
 should get no score at all):

X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,
   DCC_CHECK,SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP autolearn=no version=3.1.0

Why should it get no score at all?  SA will always assign a score.  If it 
scored well below your threshold and it wasn't spam, then SA classified it 
correctly.

If you are trying to minimize the score for your own bulk mailing, then you 
should be concerned about SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP.  In this case, the subject 
Karriere-Journal: Eingewaehlt und abgezockt contains only ASCII characters, 
and ddi not require special coding.  The SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP test looks for 
quoted-printable coding and the absence of quoted characters:

header __SUBJECT_ENCODED_QPSubject:raw =~ /=\?\S+\?Q\?/i
header __SUBJECT_NEEDS_MIMESubject =~ 
/[\x00-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x7f-\xff]/
meta SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP __SUBJECT_ENCODED_QP  !__SUBJECT_NEEDS_MIME

You would expect DCC when sending bulk mail, and BAYES and ALL_TRUSTED will 
depend on the recipient's configuration.


mfg
Pierre


RE: Why did this mail get any score at all?

2005-11-04 Thread Mathias Homann

Pierre Thomson wrote:

 If you are trying to minimize the score for your own bulk mailing, then you 
 should be

I am not. I was just wondering about the scores that that mail has got, as well 
as a bit
concerned about the fact that after upgrading to SA 3.1.0 i get all kind of 
weird results, for
example two spam mails that both took the same way to my mailserver (smtp from 
some box to the
MX for my domain, then pop3 from that mx to localhost, then another hop on 
localhost due to
virus scanning) get different scores for ALL_TRUSTED, one gets a negative score 
based on
ALL_TRUSTED and the othr doesnt. So right now i'm looking at SA results much 
more closely than
I used to.


 concerned about SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP.  In this case, the subject 
 Karriere-Journal: Eingewaehlt
 und abgezockt contains only ASCII characters, and ddi not require special 
 coding.  The
 SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP test looks for quoted-printable coding and the absence of 
 quoted
 characters:

ok, that makes sense. And because that newsletter is not being sent / managed 
by me, i
couldn't care less in this case ;)


bye,
MH



Re: Why did this mail get any score at all?

2005-11-04 Thread Matt Kettler

At 01:23 AM 11/4/2005, Mathias Homann wrote:

Hi,


here's the headers of a mail that got scored (ok, not very high but it
should get no score at all):


snip



What really bugs me are the scores for ALL_TRUSTED and
SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP.


Why does the score for ALL_TRUSTED bug you here? that's a NEGATIVE scoring 
rule.



As for  SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP, that rule is disabled by default in SA 3.1.0.. 
so perhaps you should ask yourself why you turned it on by forcing a 
nonzero score.


From SA 3.1.0's 50_scores.cf:

score SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP 0

(A score of 0 completely disables a rule)




Re: Why did this mail get any score at all?

2005-11-04 Thread RichDygert




In a message dated 11/4/2005 9:14:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What really bugs me are the scores for ALL_TRUSTED andSUBJECT_EXCESS_QP.Why does the score for ALL_TRUSTED bug you here? that's a NEGATIVE scoring rule.
I ran into a similar situation. I have no trusted or untrusted hosts defined but the ALL_TRUSTED object triggers and lowers the spam score any way.

Rich DygertCompuServe classic email SA614-538-4518


Custom rule

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Ipsen
Hi,

 I'm no expert in creating rules - so hopefully someone can help me with
this simple one:

I want to assign a negative score for all mails, that has the text

JGH Ref.: xxx


Custom rule

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Ipsen
Hi,

 I'm no expert in creating rules - so hopefully someone can help me with
this simple one:

I want to assign a negative score for all mails, that has the text

JGH Ref.: xxx

Present in the subject ( where xx can be a series of numbers, that is
1-6 digits). It doesn't matter if other text is present on either side of
this match...

Anyone ?

Regards,
/Brian


Re: Why did this mail get any score at all?

2005-11-04 Thread Matt Kettler

At 09:38 AM 11/4/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/4/2005 9:14:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What really bugs me are the scores for ALL_TRUSTED and
SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP.

Why does the score for ALL_TRUSTED bug you here? that's a NEGATIVE scoring
rule.

I ran into a similar situation. I have no trusted or untrusted hosts 
defined but the ALL_TRUSTED object triggers and lowers the spam score any way.


You can *NEVER* have no trusted hosts.. Period.

If you don't declare a trusted_networks, SA will auto-guess one for you.



Re: Custom rule

2005-11-04 Thread Matt Kettler
Brian Ipsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
  I'm no expert in creating rules - so hopefully someone can help me with
 this simple one:
 
 I want to assign a negative score for all mails, that has the text
 
 JGH Ref.: xxx
 

body LOCAL_JGH  /\bJGH Ref\.: xxx\b/
describe LOCAL_JGH  Has special reference code
score LOCAL_JGH -1.0


However, I assume you'll need something other than xxx in there.. Is it
numbers? Alphanumeric? Is it always the same length?

Here's a variant assuming it's always a 7-digit number:

body LOCAL_JGH  /\bJGH Ref\.: \d{7}\b/


Here's one assuming a 5-8 digit alphanumeric (underscores allowed too, but no
other punctuation)

body LOCAL_JGH  /\bJGH Ref\.: \w{5,8}\b/



Logging/stats

2005-11-04 Thread Chris Newcomb
I am using the single user unix instialltion and version 3.1.0, on a
RHEL 3 machine, I am able to get spamassassin to work, but i'm unable to
get it to log when it catches things as spam, and when its clean, i'm
wanting to to an mrtg for my users to see how much spam has come to the
server.

All that is logging under debug mode is attached.

I've looked and tried everything i can find but can't figure out how to
get those stats to show up.

--
Regards
Chris
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: new lowest idle kid: 15413
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: spamd: handled cleanup of child pid 15414 
due to SIGCHLD
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: child closed connection
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: child states: I
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15885]: prefork: sysread(8) not ready, wait max 300 
secs
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: spamd: server successfully spawned child 
process, pid 15885
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: child 15885: entering state 0
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: new lowest idle kid: 15413
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: child 15885: entering state 1
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: new lowest idle kid: 15413
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: child reports idle
Nov  4 10:19:59 abuse spamd[15398]: prefork: child states: II
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: logger: successfully added syslog method
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: spamd: creating INET socket:
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: spamd:  Listen: 128
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: spamd:  LocalAddr: 127.0.0.1
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: spamd:  LocalPort: 783
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: spamd:  Proto: 6
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: spamd:  ReuseAddr: 1
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: spamd:  Type: 1
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: logger: adding facilities: all
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: logger: logging level is DBG
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: generic: SpamAssassin version 3.1.0
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: config: score set 0 chosen.
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: dns: Net::DNS version: 0.53
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: dns: name server: 207.218.192.38, family: 
2, ipv6: 0
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16165]: logger: removing stderr method
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: spamd: successfully daemonized
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: spamd: Preloading modules with 
HOME=/tmp/spamd-16210-init
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: ignore: test message to precompile patterns 
and load modules
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for 
site rules pre files
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: config: using /usr/share/spamassassin for 
sys rules pre files
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: config: using /usr/share/spamassassin for 
default rules dir
Nov  4 10:20:05 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/10_misc.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_advance_fee.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_anti_ratware.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_net_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/25_accessdb.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 
/usr/share/spamassassin/25_antivirus.cf
Nov  4 10:20:06 abuse spamd[16210]: config: read file 

RE: lint failure on RDJ for 2nd day.

2005-11-04 Thread Chris Santerre


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:01 PM
 To: Martin Hepworth
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: lint failure on RDJ for 2nd day.
 
 
 Hello Martin,
 
 Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:57:22 AM, you wrote:
 
 MH Anyone any idea what rule has the following in it that 
 would cause the RDJ
 MH lint to fail..
 
 MH Lint output: [90183] warn: config: invalid regexp for rule KEZAAM:
 MH /SecuryTeam Order: missing or invalid delimiters [90183]
 
 MH Running SA 3.1.0 ???
 
 The SecuryTeam spam is relatively new, hitting systems just in
 October.
 
 The problem is with rule KEZAAM.  Check your *.cf files that you have
 installed, and see if that rule is invalid. If you have manually
 placed a rule with a --lint problem into your directory, that will
 stop RDJ from applying any changes to any files until your problem is
 fixed.
 
 MH Of course the hard way to download the updated rules my 
 self and contact the
 MH author, but just wondering if anyone has already noticed this..
 
 If it should be a file via RDJ, then that's probably your best bet,
 since I haven't seen anyone else reporting this problem yet.
 

On the same note, anyone using the OLD web page for Bigevil and Fred's
tripplet rule has had enough of a warning that they have moved. I've placed
numerous messages. And yesterday changed it so you should get a lint
failure. 

I suggest everyone make sure they are not using Bigevil anymore, and
especially not the old website. Because next week, I'm changing the ruleset,
so that any email with a freakin subject will be marked as spam. 

There have been enough warnings already. Double check your RDJ scripts to
make sure they point to www.rulesemporium.com 

--Chris


RE: lint failure on RDJ for 2nd day.

2005-11-04 Thread Martin Hepworth

Found it - the KAZEEM rule was hiding in one of local rules files I have

Apologies for the noise..



--
Martin Hepworth 
Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 04 November 2005 16:55
 To: 'Robert Menschel'; Martin Hepworth
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: RE: lint failure on RDJ for 2nd day.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:01 PM
  To: Martin Hepworth
  Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
  Subject: Re: lint failure on RDJ for 2nd day.
 
 
  Hello Martin,
 
  Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:57:22 AM, you wrote:
 
  MH Anyone any idea what rule has the following in it that
  would cause the RDJ
  MH lint to fail..
 
  MH Lint output: [90183] warn: config: invalid regexp for rule KEZAAM:
  MH /SecuryTeam Order: missing or invalid delimiters [90183]
 
  MH Running SA 3.1.0 ???
 
  The SecuryTeam spam is relatively new, hitting systems just in
  October.
 
  The problem is with rule KEZAAM.  Check your *.cf files that you have
  installed, and see if that rule is invalid. If you have manually
  placed a rule with a --lint problem into your directory, that will
  stop RDJ from applying any changes to any files until your problem is
  fixed.
 
  MH Of course the hard way to download the updated rules my
  self and contact the
  MH author, but just wondering if anyone has already noticed this..
 
  If it should be a file via RDJ, then that's probably your best bet,
  since I haven't seen anyone else reporting this problem yet.
 
 
 On the same note, anyone using the OLD web page for Bigevil and Fred's
 tripplet rule has had enough of a warning that they have moved. I've
 placed
 numerous messages. And yesterday changed it so you should get a lint
 failure.
 
 I suggest everyone make sure they are not using Bigevil anymore, and
 especially not the old website. Because next week, I'm changing the
 ruleset,
 so that any email with a freakin subject will be marked as spam.
 
 There have been enough warnings already. Double check your RDJ scripts to
 make sure they point to www.rulesemporium.com
 
 --Chris


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RE: Custom rule

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Ipsen
Hi,

   I'm no expert in creating rules - so hopefully someone can help me 
  with this simple one:
  
  I want to assign a negative score for all mails, that has the text
  
  JGH Ref.: xxx
  
 
 body LOCAL_JGH/\bJGH Ref\.: xxx\b/
 describe LOCAL_JGHHas special reference code
 score LOCAL_JGH   -1.0

 However, I assume you'll need something other than xxx in 
 there.. Is it numbers? Alphanumeric? Is it always the same length?

The x is numbers - right now, there are 6 digits, but I assume the
length could be 5-8 digits..

 Here's a variant assuming it's always a 7-digit number:
 
 body LOCAL_JGH/\bJGH Ref\.: \d{7}\b/

 Here's one assuming a 5-8 digit alphanumeric (underscores 
 allowed too, but no other punctuation)
 
 body LOCAL_JGH/\bJGH Ref\.: \w{5,8}\b/

Seems like the one i need .. Thank you very much :-)

Regards,
/Brian


Re: Custom rule

2005-11-04 Thread Matt Kettler
Brian Ipsen wrote:
 The x is numbers - right now, there are 6 digits, but I assume the
 length could be 5-8 digits..
 
 
Here's a variant assuming it's always a 7-digit number:

body LOCAL_JGH/\bJGH Ref\.: \d{7}\b/
 
 
Here's one assuming a 5-8 digit alphanumeric (underscores 
allowed too, but no other punctuation)

body LOCAL_JGH/\bJGH Ref\.: \w{5,8}\b/
 
 
 Seems like the one i need .. Thank you very much :-)


That should work fine.. If you want to be more specific you can replace the \w
with \d, which will only match numbers, but that's probably not necessary.


Re: trusted_networks and SPF

2005-11-04 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Mark Martinec wrote:

According to SA docs on trusted/internal_networks, the
MSA is to be included in the trusted_networks list, and not in 
internal_networks.



Now the question. A mail submitted to MSA from an external
authenticated client (which also happens to be DUL-listed) uses
a sender address of our domain (as it should be, according to SPF docs).
The SPF check (as done by SA) submits this foreign IP address to SPF,
which naturally claims it is a forgery. This is clearly wrong, the IP address 
submitted to SPF should be that of MSA, or SPF check should be

skipped altogether.



MSA listed in x_networks:
trusted  internal
0   0  SPF ok, no DUL hit
0   1  SPF ok, no DUL hit
1   0  SPF fails, no DUL hit
1   1  SPF fails, DUL hits


http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4661

Until a patch is made available a workaround is to use SMTP/POP-auth to 
extend the trusted_networks to all authenticated users (and not use a 
separate list of hosts in internal_networks).



Daryl



Re: Outsource my mail?

2005-11-04 Thread mouss

Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie a écrit :


Since everybody else is plugging themselves ...
shameless plug
All our linux hosting plans come with mail filtering, so you can easily
put your mail with us and your site elsewhere.
Alternatively we have a pure email filtering solution with web-based
frontend to manage your quarantine, blacklists and whitelists
/shameless plug

 

I suggest putting all these links on the wiki. This way people don't 
need to search the archives (and if the question is asked again, a 
pointer would suffice).
and if someone has the courage to devise a comparison matrix... (neutral 
if possible)




Re: Outsource my mail?

2005-11-04 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie
mouss wrote:
 and if someone has the courage to devise a comparison matrix... (neutral
 if possible)

Finding a neutral 3rd party to do a comparison matrix would be
difficult, but interesting

-- 
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Blacknight Solutions
http://www.blacknight.ie/


Gmail address listed on spamcop

2005-11-04 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
FYI

Just had a report from a user regarding
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=66.249.82.205

64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for xproxy.gmail.com
64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for gmail.com

That could be effecting quite a lot of people...

D


Re: Gmail address listed on spamcop

2005-11-04 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie
Dallas L. Engelken wrote:
 FYI
 
 Just had a report from a user regarding
 http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=66.249.82.205
 
 64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for xproxy.gmail.com
 64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for gmail.com
 
 That could be effecting quite a lot of people...

This was inevitable

The amount of junk being sent out from gmail is worrying and their
methods of dealing with reports to abuse@ were bound to result in
listings in DNSBLs


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Blacknight Solutions
Quality Business Hosting  Colocation
http://www.blacknight.ie/
Tel. 1850 927 280
Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
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Fax. +353 (0) 59  9164239


Re: Gmail address listed on spamcop

2005-11-04 Thread Chris Conn



Dallas L. Engelken wrote:

FYI

Just had a report from a user regarding
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=66.249.82.205

64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for xproxy.gmail.com
64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for gmail.com

That could be effecting quite a lot of people...

D



Lower down, see:

In the past 81.7 days, it has been listed 24 times for a total of 19.9 days

So for the last 3 months, it has been listed 25% of the time...

Chris



RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-04 Thread email builder
As a result of this, however, we are currently burdened with an
  8GB(! yep, you read it right) bayes database (more than 20K users
  having mail delivered).
  
  Consider using bayes_expiry_max_db_size in conjunction with
  bayes_auto_expire
  
  Using?  So you are saying you use non-sitewide bayes but you limit
  your max DB size to something much smaller than the default?  Care to
  share your settings?
 
 No, I use sitewide bayes.
 
  We left these at their defaults (not unintentionally).  If we have
  20K users, the default max of 150,000 tokens at roughly 8MB comes out
  to 160GB.  We have the disk space, but just not sure if we have the
  tuning it would take to handle a DB of that size.  What I am looking
  for is tuning help or other ideas on how to achieve some reasonable
  level of bayes personalization without drowning our DB resources.
 
 For optimum performance you probably want the bayes database to fit into
 RAM, along with all of your spamassassin objects and anything else on the
 server.
 
 You might consider buying a dedicated Bayes DB server with 4 GB of RAM, and
 cutting bayes_expiry_max_db_size in half.  That should do it.

That should do it today (actually, the database is now 9GB), but not when it
has grown to 160GB.

I appreciate the tips, but what I am looking for is MySQL tuning advice and
thoughts/ideas/other approaches to having at least somewhat personalized
Bayes stores for well over 20K users.  *SOMEONE* out there has to be doing
something like this, no???

 
 If the DB fits into RAM, the SQL engine should be able to make
 transactional changes in RAM and lazily spool them to the disk without
 forcing other transactions to wait.




__ 
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http://farechase.yahoo.com


Re: Outsource my mail?

2005-11-04 Thread mouss

Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie a écrit :



Finding a neutral 3rd party to do a comparison matrix would be
difficult, but interesting

well, someone may start, and then the page gets reviewed until some 
level of agreement is reached...


Wristwatches and chronometers

2005-11-04 Thread Steve Heggood

Has anyone developed a rule for the current onslaught of wristwatch spam?
Thanks in advance,
-steve-


Re: Gmail address listed on spamcop

2005-11-04 Thread List Mail User
...
Dallas L. Engelken just wrote:
FYI

Just had a report from a user regarding
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=66.249.82.205

64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for xproxy.gmail.com
64.233.185.27 is an mx ( 5 ) for gmail.com

That could be effecting quite a lot of people...

D

I just saw a batch of spam sent by permissionplace.com/DirectoryNET
on behalf of Conde Nast that was sent from a gmail account.  A quick check
shows that permissionplace.com is already on URIBL [black] - Maybe they
should be grey, but the mail was not CAN-SPAM compliant and no one at my
site getting it has any subscriptions to any of their (i.e. Conde Nast) 
magazine, including me;  I got sent spam (caught by SA) to a scraped
address, and the last time I subscribed to any of their magazines was
over three years ago (i.e. no existing relationship).

While gmail has problems, it probably shouldn't get listed, and
*maybe* permissionplace.com should be grey, but DirectoryNET.com should
probably be listed also.  A check of their web site claims that all
addresses are opt-in, but also claims that they can find and match email
addresses to other data to let their clients reach their own customers
(doesn't sound like opt-in).

Definitely main-sleaze category.  Oh yeah, and they don't seem
to answer the telephone:/


Paul Shupak
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Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-04 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Freitag, 4. November 2005 21:04 email builder wrote:
 *SOMEONE* out there has to be doing
 something like this, no???

I would be interested in that, too.

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resolve URI domain to IP and match that?

2005-11-04 Thread wolfgang
after a wave of spam mails two days ago, today there was a new wave 
advertising a different URI that resolves to the same IP.

is there a built in possibility in SA (3.0.4) ro resolve a URI's domain to an 
IP and match that against a known IP, lets say 1.2.3.4 and thus score any 
hostname/domain that resolves to that IP?

cheers,

wolfgang


RE: resolve URI domain to IP and match that?

2005-11-04 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
wolfgang wrote:
 after a wave of spam mails two days ago, today there was a new wave
 advertising a different URI that resolves to the same IP.
 
 is there a built in possibility in SA (3.0.4) ro resolve a URI's
 domain to an IP and match that against a known IP, lets say 1.2.3.4
 and thus score any hostname/domain that resolves to that IP?

A URI black list by IP address, with name resolution?

It sounds to me like the potential for false positives on such a thing would be 
very high.

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Re: resolve URI domain to IP and match that?

2005-11-04 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Saturday, 5. November 2005 01:23), 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wolfgang wrote:
  after a wave of spam mails two days ago, today there was a new wave
  advertising a different URI that resolves to the same IP.
  
  is there a built in possibility in SA (3.0.4) ro resolve a URI's
  domain to an IP and match that against a known IP, lets say 1.2.3.4
  and thus score any hostname/domain that resolves to that IP?
 
 A URI black list by IP address, with name resolution?

Nope, my idea is something like a local rule/plugin(?) that resolves an URI's 
host/domain to an IP and afterwards checks for a known hand-picked IP also 
included in the local rule. And I am wondering if/how that might be possible.
 
 It sounds to me like the potential for false positives on such a thing would 
 be very high.

Agreed.

cheers,

wolfgang