server/user bayes

2005-11-11 Thread Dmitriy MiksIr

Hello!
In my server config i use per-user config including bayes. With Horde's 
IMP possible make per-user learn span. All fine, but also i want use 
system-wide bayes for detect spam based on user and system bayes both.

Is this possible with SA 3.1.0?



very few points to spam message

2005-11-11 Thread Toni Casueps
I have received some spam messages and Spamassassin has assigned the tests 
correctly, for example it found BODY_ENHANCEMENT, BODY_ENHANCEMENT2 and 
GUARANTEED_100_PERCENT, but still the score that the messages got was 2.2.


I don't want to decrease the default level of 5 because sometimes I get 
non-spam messages with more than 4 points. Is it possible that Spamassassin 
is considering the messages as local (which gets less points than net)? How 
can I tell if the message was processed as local, net, with bayes or with 
bayes+net?


I use Spamassassin 3.0.4 under Linux+Postfix
I am invoking it from master.cf (i.e. the IntegratedSpamdInPostfix article 
of the wiki)





Re: rejectlog

2005-11-11 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 04:08:56PM +0100, nick wrote:
 Rejecting the mail after DATA?
 
 Spamassassin runs behind my MTA, if the sender passes blacklist checks 
 and any other obvious no-nos, it's then passed to spamassassin which 
 NEVER discards email, but places them in a spam folder.
 
 Discarding emails based on a spam score is a bad idea. As you can see 
 quite clearly, the reasons behind the discard/tagging aren't logged, so 
 false positives can't be corrected.

It is a bad idea if you set it up so it doesn't log anything, yes.
Anything done badly is a bad idea.

It is however perfectly possible to set up Exim and sa-exim to use
spamassassin to reject mail after DATA giving a full reason why in
the log file and the reject message and still keeping a copy on
disk.

A reject with a useful message combined with keeping the message on
disk for a reasonable period of time is in many cases BETTER than
accepting and silently filing away in a spam folder, because the
entity with the most desire to see the mail delivered -- the sender
-- is the one who gets notified via the usual SMTP mechanism that it
did not get delivered.

Having the spare time to look through my spamassassin thinks this
is spam folder for false positives is a thing of the past; I would
much rather reject as much as possible and only have to check the
borderline stuff.

Andy


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Re: First time home made rule not doing what I was thinkin....

2005-11-11 Thread James Lay
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:02:46 -0700
James Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's the rule:
 
 body  GATEWAY_001 /tripod\.com/i
 score 5
 describe  match tripod.com
 
 Here's the result:
 
 Nov  9 13:42:03 gateway spamd[17880]: spamd: result: . -2
 -ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00,GATEWAY_001
 scantime=0.6,size=1213,user=spamfilter,uid=1004,required_score=3.4,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=/var/spool/spamfilter/spamd,mid=[EMAIL
  PROTECTED],bayes=0,autolearn=ham
 
 Did I totally miss something?  Thanks!
 
 James


Thanks for the help people...was just what I needed =)

James


Remove Address from Whitelist - question

2005-11-11 Thread Larry Starr
I am running Spamassassin version 2.60 on a Redhat 8.0 mail server.

I have a couple of addresses that I would like to remove from the AWL but when 
I have tried:
spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist=addr

The process appears to run forever, with no effect.  Well, almost no effect, I 
can see that it locks the AWL database, but have let it churn for over 20 
minutes with no results.

Am I missing something?

Thank you,
-- 
Larry G. Starr - [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software Engineer: Full Compass Systems LTD.
Phone: 608-831-7330 x 1347  FAX: 608-831-6330
===
There are only three sports: bullfighting, mountaineering and motor
racing, all the rest are merely games! - Ernest Hemmingway



new rules for stock spam?

2005-11-11 Thread Bill Randle
Does anyone have any rules to squash the recent spate of stock alert
spam that I've been seeing? The messages are coming from multiple
sources, although some can be traced back to IPs belonging to
kornet.net. There are no URLs in the message body. Bayes is probably
the best bet, but on my global db it's scoring only BAYES_50.

The last batch had scores like this:

 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.518 tagged_above=-99 required=5
tests=BAYES_50, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_FAIL
 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.042 tagged_above=-99 required=5
tests=BAYES_50, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, SARE_FROM_BADAOL
 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 tagged_above=-99 required=5 tests=BAYES_50,
FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE

-Bill




Re: new rules for stock spam?

2005-11-11 Thread Dhawal Doshy

Bill Randle wrote:

Does anyone have any rules to squash the recent spate of stock alert
spam that I've been seeing? The messages are coming from multiple
sources, although some can be traced back to IPs belonging to
kornet.net. There are no URLs in the message body. Bayes is probably
the best bet, but on my global db it's scoring only BAYES_50.

The last batch had scores like this:

 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.518 tagged_above=-99 required=5
tests=BAYES_50, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_FAIL
 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.042 tagged_above=-99 required=5
tests=BAYES_50, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, SARE_FROM_BADAOL
 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 tagged_above=-99 required=5 tests=BAYES_50,
FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE



The FSR_MASKED_FINANCIAL rule (from here 
http://www.wormbytes.ca/software/spamassassin/rules.cf) and a well 
trained bayes takes care of most stock spams. You could expand the rule 
to include pr*fit, auth*rity and l*w. Also see the 
72_sare_bml_post25x.cf rule from SARE.


Also since you have a lot of these spams, use them train the bayes db.

- dhawal


Re: new rules for stock spam?

2005-11-11 Thread Bill Randle

 Bill Randle wrote:
 Does anyone have any rules to squash the recent spate of stock alert
 spam that I've been seeing? The messages are coming from multiple
 sources, although some can be traced back to IPs belonging to
 kornet.net. There are no URLs in the message body. Bayes is probably
 the best bet, but on my global db it's scoring only BAYES_50.

 The last batch had scores like this:

  X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.518 tagged_above=-99 required=5
 tests=BAYES_50, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_FAIL
  X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.042 tagged_above=-99 required=5
 tests=BAYES_50, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, SARE_FROM_BADAOL
  X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 tagged_above=-99 required=5 tests=BAYES_50,
 FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE


 The FSR_MASKED_FINANCIAL rule (from here
 http://www.wormbytes.ca/software/spamassassin/rules.cf) and a well
 trained bayes takes care of most stock spams. You could expand the rule
 to include pr*fit, auth*rity and l*w. Also see the
 72_sare_bml_post25x.cf rule from SARE.

 Also since you have a lot of these spams, use them train the bayes db.

Thanks for the pointer to FSR_MASKED_FINANCIAL. I do use
72_sare_bml_post25x.cf, but it doesn't seem to hit very many of them.

-Bill



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What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Jerry
We are getting a lot of spam mail from  countries outside of the US.  Anyone 
have a list of what country domain extensions are fairly Ok to block?  We 
don't have a lot of users whoreceive mail from outside the US.  We'd like to 
cut down onspam/spoof/virus messages.


Currently I am blocking all mails from = *.nl *.br *.ch etc..

Also, Is there a special rule to detect  messages like the one below?

Thanks
- Original Message -

Dear user sam,

You have successfully = updatedthe password of your Mybloo account.

If you did not authorize = this change or if you need assistance with your 
account, please contact Mybloo customer service at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thank = you for=20 using Mybloo!
The Mybloo Support Team =






+++=20 Attachment: No Virus (Clean)
+++ Mybloo Antivirus - www.mybloo.com=20



RE: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Jerry wrote:
 Anyone have a list of what country domain extensions are fairly Ok to
 block?

There's a politically charged question.
FWIW, most spam still comes from the US.

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer


Re: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread OpenMacNews
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hi,

 Anyone have a list of what country domain extensions are fairly Ok to
 block?
 
 There's a politically charged question.
 FWIW, most spam still comes from the US.
 

imho, it's not an issue of where most spam comes from, nor is it a politically 
charged question.

rather it's a pragmatic one: what % of email you rec'v/expect from any given 
country is spam?

e.g., as one of my clients (a) does no business with CN/KR, and (b) noted that 
~100% of email
rec'd from servers there was spam, adding:

cn-kr.blackholes.us,

before their usual RBL list of:

sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,
relays.ordb.org,
relays.mail-abuse.org,
list.dsbl.org

has had a huge effect on reducing spam ...

even though the total volume orig'ing in the US may be higher, the % of legit 
email is much
higher, and the 'other' RBL do well enuf ...

so, to your question: ... fairly OK ... ?  is simply an operational issue.

cheers,

richard
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Re: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Jerry wrote:
 We are getting a lot of spam mail from  countries outside of the US. 
 Anyone have a list of what country domain extensions are fairly Ok to
 block?  We don't have a lot of users whoreceive mail from outside the
 US.  We'd like to cut down onspam/spoof/virus messages.
 
 Currently I am blocking all mails from = *.nl *.br *.ch etc..

Personally, I find it unreasonable to outright block any country.

The problem being if you post on a list like say, users@spamassassin.apache.org
an off-list reply can come to you with help from *anywhere* in the world.

For example you might think it safe to block Ireland, not knowing anyone from
there. However, if Justin Mason emailed you off-list about a SA problem you'd be
blocking him.

Unless you can prove you strictly don't ever communicate with anyone from a
given country (including mailing lists), and never want to use any OSS with any
developers in that country, you're pretty much not-safe blocking it.

That said, I do use ACLs in milter-greylist to greylist all of apnic and lacnic,
as well as a variety of DUL networks in the US and EU, as well as any host with
no RDNS.

The greylist takes care of a lot of the spam without blocking legitimate mail,
although there are a couple of legitimate messages hit each week, they only get
delayed not dropped.

Thus far this week  10,181 messages were greylisted by my setup. Of those 376
retried and were delivered. Of those, 316 were tagged as spam by SA, and 51 were
not. A few of the 51 were SA FNs, but none of the 316 appear to be SA FPs.




 Also, Is there a special rule to detect  messages like the one below?

Yeah, it's called a virus scanner. That's a mytob variant virus message.





Re: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Jerry



Also, Is there a special rule to detect  messages like the one below?


Yeah, it's called a virus scanner. That's a mytob variant virus message.



My virus scanner cleans the attachment, but still get people emailing and 
calling about their accounts when they receive these messages.





Re: Is this a Spamassassin generated message?

2005-11-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Marc Perkel wrote:
 Getting messages like this. Just upgraded to 3.10. Is this coming from SA?
 
 Spam detection software, running on the system pascal.ctyme.com, has
 identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
 has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
 similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
 the administrator of that system for details.
 

Yes. That's the standard SA report if you have report_safe set to anything other
than 0.

That's been the default report template since SA 2.60.


Re: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread hamann . w
 We are getting a lot of spam mail from  countries outside of the US.  Anyone 
 have a list of what country domain extensions are fairly Ok to block?  We 
 don't have a lot of users whoreceive mail from outside the US.  We'd like to 
 cut down onspam/spoof/virus messages.
 
 Currently I am blocking all mails from = *.nl *.br *.ch etc..
 

Living in a country outside the US (realistically, all countries inthe world, 
with just one exception,
are outside the US) I must say that I get spam from many places ... including 
said united states.

Why wouldn't just everybody - in every country - block mails from anywhere else?

Wolfgang Hamann



Re: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Jerry wrote:
 
 Also, Is there a special rule to detect  messages like the one below?


 Yeah, it's called a virus scanner. That's a mytob variant virus message.

 
 My virus scanner cleans the attachment, but still get people emailing
 and calling about their accounts when they receive these messages.

Well, then that's a problem with your virus scanner setup.. Mine tags the
subject line with {VIRUS} so my users never bother me about them...




Re: Is this a Spamassassin generated message?

2005-11-11 Thread Marc Perkel






Matt Kettler wrote:

  Marc Perkel wrote:
  
  
Getting messages like this. Just upgraded to 3.10. Is this coming from SA?

Spam detection software, running on the system "pascal.ctyme.com", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.


  
  
Yes. That's the standard SA report if you have report_safe set to anything other
than 0.

That's been the default report template since SA 2.60.

  

Right - the last upgrade I did last night overwrote my local.cf file.
-- 
Marc Perkel - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com





Re: Apparently Recieved by my server...

2005-11-11 Thread Sandy S
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The following email to me gets through by their spoofing my IP even
though
  it clearly comes from somewhere else. I remember someone mentioning a
  trusted_networks-like setting that used something like a
  apparently_received_from name or something similar. How do I set it up?
  Just a pointer to a DOC will suffice, unless you've had trouble setting
it
  up...
 
  I've searched google and have found some cryptic stuff but am new enough
  to this to ask for help. I hope this isn't so elementary that I'm
  annoying.
 
   start email header 
 
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on
   moroni.ourldsfamily.com
  X-Spam-Status: No, score=-89.8 required=0.8 tests=AWL,INVALID_TZ_EST,
   MIME_BOUND_DD_DIGITS,MSGID_DOLLARS_RANDOM,RCVD_HELO_IP_MISMATCH,
   RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS,RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,
   UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,USER_IN_WHITELIST,X_MESSAGE_INFO autolearn=no

 Hi,

 You want to look at USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO or USER_IN_WHITELIST_FROM, not
 your current setting of USER_IN_WHITELIST in you rlocal.cf or user_prefs.

 Regards,

 Rick


I've run across a similar issue and believe it to be a bug in the way
Spamassassin handles WHITELIST_FROM_RCVD.

According to the docs, whitelist_from_rcvd matches what you've specified as
an ok rDNS location against the reverse DNS lookup used during the handover
from the internet to your internal network's mail exchangers. .

However, if you look at the received header Karl posted:
Received: from 198.60.114.90 ([200.167.92.14])
^^^
 by moroni.ourldsfamily.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id jAAHFTBO030068
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:15:31 -0700

and check the IP address this message came from, no PTR records exist for
this IP so his system can't do a reverse DNS lookup.  For some reason, in
this case Spamassassin seems to trust the from 198.60.114.90 part of the
header as the source of the message, which if I understand my mail headers
properly comes from the easily forged HELO exchange.  (Of course, I could be
wrong about this.)

My guess is that Karl's config file has something like
WHITELIST_FROM_RCVD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 198.60.114.90

causing Spamassassin to trigger the USER_IN_WHITELIST rule, even though this
message was not really received from his trusted IP.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong about the way I'm reading my headers;
otherwise I probably will file the bugzilla!

Sandy



User_Scores SQL database not working??

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew Yette
I currently am using SA 3.1.0 with ClamAV 0.87.1 and Qmail-scanner 1.25st.

I use SQL for my bayes as well as my user scores preferences databases. When
testing the whitelist_from preference, mail comes through just fine and is
recognized to be part of that preference and is scored accordingly. However,
when I enter a blacklist_from preference, mail blacklisted seemingly is
ignored? Running it thought spamassasssin -D  msg.msg doesn't seem to work,
as it apparently isnt testing against the scores preferences database- as
even the whitelist_from senders aren't getting tagged as in the whitelist -
I only see that when sending actual mail through the server.

Any thoughts as to what might be going wrong??

Matt 
-- 
Matthew Yette
Senior Engineer (NOC/Operations)
M.A. Polce Consulting
315-838-1644



RE: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Living in a country outside the US (realistically, all countries
 inthe world, with just one exception, are outside the US) I must say
 that I get spam from many places ... including said united states. 
 
 Why wouldn't just everybody - in every country - block mails from
 anywhere else? 

I live in the US, and I'm philosophically opposed to blocking emails from a 
particular country.

Gr(a|e)ylisting I'm fine with.

But even if (say) Ptomania was barred by the UN from ever doing business with 
any other country; if logs going back ten years conclusively showed that every 
email ever received from Ptomania was demonstratibly spam or viral; if there 
was evidence that a team of virus writers was developing new viruses every day 
and seeding them from Ptomanian mail servers; if ICANN dedicated a class A IP 
network solely for Ptomanian use in perpetuity; yes, even if all these things 
were true, I would /still/ refuse to block mail from that IP network.

Why?

Because it's wrong.

I cannot prove this... but it /is/... in the same sense that Mt. Everest /is/, 
or that Elmer Kogan /isn't/.

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer


Rule for this ??

2005-11-11 Thread Jean-Paul Natola








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I viewed the source of the code because I
was curious as to how these words flew right through my SA ,



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RE: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Matthew.van.Eerde wrote:
 Elmer Kogan /isn't/

s/Elmer Kogan/Alma Cogan/ (sorry)

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer



RE: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread Dan Hollis

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But even if (say) Ptomania was barred by the UN from ever doing business with 
any other country; if logs going back ten years conclusively showed that every 
email ever received from Ptomania was demonstratibly spam or viral; if there 
was evidence that a team of virus writers was developing new viruses every day 
and seeding them from Ptomanian mail servers; if ICANN dedicated a class A IP 
network solely for Ptomanian use in perpetuity; yes, even if all these things 
were true, I would /still/ refuse to block mail from that IP network.
Why?
Because it's wrong.


Who are you to dictate to an end user what mail they _must_ receive?

Their hardware. Their network. Their equipment. Their property. Not yours.

What's next, mandating people _must_ answer all phone calls, any time of 
the day or night, telemarketer or not, because one of them _might_ be a 
legitimate call?


FWIW it's simpler for me to block on encodings. I don't read chinese or 
korean or russian, there is no reason for me to ever receive chinese or 
korean or russian language emails, so anything BIG5 or EUC-KR or KOI8 
encoding with high-ascii chars in the body is instantly binned.


-Dan


Re: Rule for this ??

2005-11-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Here’s an intelligent html coder
 
  
 
 I viewed the source of the code because I was curious as to how these
 words flew right through my SA ,
 
  
 
 You will note that if turned into plain text  , he used a bunch of
 tables and cells to produce the following;

Try this on for size:

body L_COLUMN_VIAG
/\bv(?:\s\w){4,6}\si(?:\s\w){4,6}\sa(?:\s\w){4,6}\sg(?:\s\w){4,6}\sr(?:\s\w){4,6}\sa\b/i
describe L_COLUMN_VIAG looks like a column-obfuscated v-pill ad
score L_COLUMN_VIAG 0.1

Warning: new rule, not well tested, hence the limited score. I just placed this
on my live server to see how it behaves.

Of course, there are some limitations to this rule that a spammer can use to get
around it, but the general concept of the new gap clause of (?:\s\w){4,6}\s can
be adapted to catch future variants with different table attributes.


Re: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread William Stearns

Good afternoon, all,

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, OpenMacNews wrote:


Anyone have a list of what country domain extensions are fairly Ok to
block?


There's a politically charged question.
FWIW, most spam still comes from the US.


imho, it's not an issue of where most spam comes from, nor is it a politically 
charged question.

rather it's a pragmatic one: what % of email you rec'v/expect from any given 
country is spam?

e.g., as one of my clients (a) does no business with CN/KR, and (b) noted that 
~100% of email
rec'd from servers there was spam, adding:


	I heard that same argument from a respected coworker; he asked the 
company owner whether we could _possibly_ do business with Country S now 
or in the future.  Given an answer of no and the fact that we were 
receiving sustained attacks from Country S, he blocked the entire country.


	A few years later I found myself teaching a perimeter security 
course _in the capital of Country S_, explaining to a classroom full of 
paying students that we banned the entire country for a number of months 
because - *gulp* - there was no possible way we'd ever do business with 
that country.


	Here's another way to look at the issue.  Lets say that you knew 
that a state/county/province in your own country had an inordinately low 
signal/attack ratio.  Would you ban that region?


	Can you ever be sure enough that you'll _never_ get a legitimate 
mail from that region?  I've got one counter-example above
	If you really do believe you've got some political area with a 
sufficiently low signal/noise ratio, I'd suggest making an SA rule to 
_raise the score_, instead of an unconditional block.


	One last note, Jerry.  If you unconditionally blocked mail from 
.nl and .br, you'd have respectively blocked 688 and 258 (out of 56,910) 
posts from this list alone.  One of which might someday have an answer you 
need.  :-)

Cheers,
- Bill

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Re: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?

2005-11-11 Thread OpenMacNews
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 Here's another way to look at the issue.  Lets say that you knew
 that a state/county/province in your own country had an inordinately low
 signal/attack ratio.  Would you ban that region?

1st, afaik, there are no IP block lists by state/county/province in your own 
country.

2nd, it would not meet stated business criteria.  client does business in the 
US .. all of it.
not in CN-KR. in ~10 years, not a single email to/from CN-KR.  any/all clients 
that HAVE been
in/through CN-KR have communicated via legit providers in the US.  problem 
solved for them.

3rd, entire IP block bans ARE in place for known, seriously offending blocks, 
due specifically
to inordinately low signal/attack ratio.

 Can you ever be sure enough that you'll _never_ get a legitimate
 mail from that region?

NOTHING is ever for certain.  especially managing business risk.

 If you unconditionally blocked mail from .nl
 and .br, you'd have respectively blocked 688 and 258 (out of 56,910)
 posts from this list alone.

hence, searchable mailing list archives are a 'good thing' ...
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Change Temp Directory

2005-11-11 Thread User for SpamAssassin Mail List

Hello,

I've looked around and could not find this answer. How does one change the
temp directory that spamd uses? I see it using /tmp on our debian sarge
server using a debian spamassassin 3.0.3-2 version.

I would like to change it to /var/tmp which on our system is a much faster
SCSI raid disk.

Thanks for your help,

Ken Rea



RE: Change Temp Directory

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
User for SpamAssassin Mail List wrote:
 I've looked around and could not find this answer. How does one
 change the temp directory that spamd uses? I see it using /tmp on our
 debian sarge server using a debian spamassassin 3.0.3-2 version.
 
 I would like to change it to /var/tmp which on our system is a much
 faster SCSI raid disk.

From USAGE:
  - SpamAssassin now uses a temporary file in /tmp (or $TMPDIR, if that's
set in the environment) for Pyzor and DCC checks.  Make sure that this
directory is either (a) not writable by other users, or (b) not shared
over NFS, for security.

So, if you set $TMPDIR in the spamd user's environment to /var/tmp, that should 
do it.

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer


RE: Change Temp Directory

2005-11-11 Thread User for SpamAssassin Mail List


But spamd changes users id each time it's used this would not work to well
would it?

Ken



On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 User for SpamAssassin Mail List wrote:
  I've looked around and could not find this answer. How does one
  change the temp directory that spamd uses? I see it using /tmp on our
  debian sarge server using a debian spamassassin 3.0.3-2 version.
 
  I would like to change it to /var/tmp which on our system is a much
  faster SCSI raid disk.

 From USAGE:
   - SpamAssassin now uses a temporary file in /tmp (or $TMPDIR, if that's
 set in the environment) for Pyzor and DCC checks.  Make sure that this
 directory is either (a) not writable by other users, or (b) not shared
 over NFS, for security.

 So, if you set $TMPDIR in the spamd user's environment to /var/tmp, that 
 should do it.

 --
 Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
 Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer




RE: Change Temp Directory

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
User for SpamAssassin Mail List wrote:
 But spamd changes users id each time it's used this would not work to
 well would it?

I don't know if $ENV{TMPDIR} is queried once on startup, or at every user 
change... maybe the source would reveal that information...

Could you symlink /tmp to /var/tmp and have everybody use the faster disk?

On my own servers, I mount /tmp as a RAM disk.

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer


Re: Change Temp Directory

2005-11-11 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 User for SpamAssassin Mail List wrote:
 
I've looked around and could not find this answer. How does one
change the temp directory that spamd uses? I see it using /tmp on our
debian sarge server using a debian spamassassin 3.0.3-2 version.

I would like to change it to /var/tmp which on our system is a much
faster SCSI raid disk.
 
 
From USAGE:
   - SpamAssassin now uses a temporary file in /tmp (or $TMPDIR, if that's
 set in the environment) for Pyzor and DCC checks.  Make sure that this
 directory is either (a) not writable by other users, or (b) not shared
 over NFS, for security.
 
 So, if you set $TMPDIR in the spamd user's environment to /var/tmp, that 
 should do it.
 

Also note this will affect every perl package that uses File::Spec-tmpdir too.


Re: Change Temp Directory

2005-11-11 Thread Matt Kettler
User for SpamAssassin Mail List wrote:
 
 But spamd changes users id each time it's used this would not work to well
 would it?
 

spamd changes userid's with setuid, not logon. It shouldn't get a whole new
environment, just new privileges and mapping for ~.

Thus the TMPDIR from the original launch of spamd should carry over.


RE: What countries to block ?

2005-11-11 Thread Pierre Thomson
Backing up about a light year here, and ignoring all philosophical arguments, 
I'll offer my list of _scored_ (not blocked) countries.  This is, of course, 
specific to our situation:

CN TW RU UA BR

I use the RelayCountry plugin for this, and assign it a rather low score.  It 
DOES help.

Pierre


-Original Message-
From: Jerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:11 PM
To: spam
Subject: What countries to block ? and detectng Trojan attachments?


We are getting a lot of spam mail from  countries outside of the US.  Anyone 
have a list of what country domain extensions are fairly Ok to block?  We 
don't have a lot of users whoreceive mail from outside the US.  We'd like to 
cut down onspam/spoof/virus messages.

Currently I am blocking all mails from = *.nl *.br *.ch etc..

Also, Is there a special rule to detect  messages like the one below?

Thanks


3.1.0 headers appearing before Received: lines? How to change?

2005-11-11 Thread Dan Hollis
I upgraded to 3.1.0, and now spamassasin is putting its headers before all 
others, even Received: lines...


X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on sasami.anime.net
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled
version=3.1.0
X-Spam-Level:
Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-2.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE 
[134.130.3.131])

Is there any way to change it back to 3.0.4 behavior? There is nothing 
mentioned in http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/branches/3.1/UPGRADE

or http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UpgradeTo310

-Dan


RE: 3.1.0 headers appearing before Received: lines? How to change?

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Dan Hollis wrote:
 I upgraded to 3.1.0, and now spamassasin is putting its headers
 before all 
 others, even Received: lines...
 
 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on
 sasami.anime.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL
   autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0
 X-Spam-Level:
 Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-2.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE
 [134.130.3.131]) 
 
 Is there any way to change it back to 3.0.4 behavior? There is nothing
 mentioned in
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/branches/3.1/UPGRADE 
 or http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UpgradeTo310

Short answer: the change was made to be nice to Yahoo!'s DomainKeys.

See this excerpt from 3.1.0's Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus...

  # Break the pristine header set up into two blocks; pre is the stuff that
  # we want to ensure comes before any SpamAssassin markup headers, like the
  # Return-Path header (see bug 3409).
  #
  # post is all the rest of the message headers, placed after the
  # SpamAssassin markup hdrs. Once one of those headers is seen, all further
  # headers go into that set; it's assumed that it's an old copy of the
  # header, or attempted spoofing, if it crops up halfway through the
  # headers.

And bug 3409:
http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=3409

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer


Re: spamd / isn't numeric in subroutine

2005-11-11 Thread Pongo
Herb Martin HerbM at learnquick.com writes:

 

 
 Clarification:  .49 is Ok in every report I have seen about
 problems with .50-52 -- it is the recommended retreat position,
 and that (0.49) is working for me after trouble with a later
 version.
 

  Loren
 
 --
 Herb
 
 

I found same problem. downgrading net:dns to .49 everythink works.
I am finding what's wrong in .53 code.
Regards,
Pongo






report_safe 0

2005-11-11 Thread Marc Perkel

but still getting this:

Spam detection software, running on the system pascal.ctyme.com, has
identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.


How do I get rid of it?


--
Marc Perkel - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
   My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com



Re: report_safe 0

2005-11-11 Thread Justin Mason
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Marc Perkel writes:
 but still getting this:
 
 Spam detection software, running on the system pascal.ctyme.com, has
 identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
 has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
 similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
 the administrator of that system for details.
 
 
 How do I get rid of it?

set report_safe 1 in the local.cf .

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Re: report_safe 0

2005-11-11 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Justin Mason wrote:

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Marc Perkel writes:


but still getting this:

Spam detection software, running on the system pascal.ctyme.com, has
identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.


How do I get rid of it?



set report_safe 1 in the local.cf .


Nope, you want 0, not 1.

Make sure you've restarted the daemon and checked your config files with 
spamassassin --lint.



Daryl



Re: report_safe 0

2005-11-11 Thread Marc Perkel



Marc Perkel wrote:


but still getting this:

Spam detection software, running on the system pascal.ctyme.com, has
identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.


How do I get rid of it?




Never mind - I figured it out.

--
Marc Perkel - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
   My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com



RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-11 Thread Bill Randle
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 23:47 +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
 Hi!
 
 A slightly earlier one got a much lower score with:
 
 
  Umm... I don't see any SARE rules in there. The fact is, SARE isn't 
  terribly effective against these 1-column drug spams.  The only SARE hit 
  I got was SARE_SPEC_LEO_LINE03f with a whopping 0.18 points, or 
  occasionally  SARE_SPEC_LEO_MEDS with 1.67 points.
 
 SARE rules will be updates shortly.
 
  Sure, with every possible network test enabled you will catch most 
  everything.  But some of us don't have unlimited resources.  ;)
 
 bodyPROLO_LEO1  /85\,45|1\,21/
 bodyPROLO_LEO2  /69\,95|3\,33/
 bodyPROLO_LEO3  /99\,95|3\,75/
 uri PROLO_LEO4  /http:\/\/.*\.tripod\.com/
 metaPROLO_LEO_M1   (PROLO_LEO1  PROLO_LEO2  
 PROLO_LEO3  PROLO_LEO4)
 
 score   PROLO_LEO1 0.1
 score   PROLO_LEO2 0.1
 score   PROLO_LEO3 0.1
 score   PROLO_LEO4 0.1
 score   PROLO_LEO_M1   8
 
 describePROLO_LEO1 Meta Catches all Leo drug variations 
 so far
 describePROLO_LEO2 Meta Catches all Leo drug variations 
 so far
 describePROLO_LEO3 Meta Catches all Leo drug variations 
 so far
 describePROLO_LEO4 Meta to catch Leo now using Tripod
 describePROLO_LEO_M1   Catches all Leo drug variations so far
 
 Meanwhile you could use something like this.
 
 We have some other ones, since Leo likes to morph, but this ons is pretty 
 effective on the current ones.

Update to catch latest variations:

bodyPROLO_LEO1  /85\,45|1\,21|1\,22/
bodyPROLO_LEO2  /69\,95|3\,33|3\,32/

-Bill




Spamassassin Distro

2005-11-11 Thread Tony Melia



Hi, I am looking at 
setting up a new linux box dedicated to spamassassin via amavisd. I am 
wondering what the best distro is to do this on, is there a particular distro 
you guys can recommend? I am not looking for an out-of-the-box solution, 
but one that spam cleaning is almost native to!

Regards,Tony


GERMAN ruleset updated

2005-11-11 Thread Michael Monnerie
Hello list,

http://zmi.at/x/70_zmi_german.cf

contains the newest rules to catch german SPAM. Also available 
automagically via rules du jour name ZMI_GERMAN

Also documented here:
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets

Please report your german SPAM with full headers to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mfg zmi
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