Re: New Spam Assassin user

2006-06-15 Thread JamesDR

Mike L wrote:

I am a new user. I am running on Windows 2003.
 
I have several domains on my servers.
 
I only want one domain on my server to use spam assassin. Where and what 
do i need to do to only filter for 1 domain on my sever. Is this possible.
 
I would also like to setup wrongmx on this as wel..
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Mike
You would do this with the tool that calls SA. There are some rules that 
send the spam to the users, but if you want to bypass SA all together, 
you'd do this with the tool that is actually calling SpamAssassin (be it 
spamc/spamd or spamassassin directly.)
As far as wrongmx, that was pretty much answered in one of your other 
threads.


Quoting Daryl:

Yeah, put the plugin files in your local config directory... that's the 
same directory that has you local.cf file.


If you want to only enable the WRONG_MX rule for a particular domain, 
you'll have to configure per user or domain scoring.


I haven't seen any specs on your system, can you post the MTA and how 
you are calling SpamAssassin? This will help us help you.


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Re: FP's on BAD_ENC_HEADER in bounces from Microsoft SMTPSVC

2006-06-15 Thread Nick Leverton
On Thursday 15 June 2006 03:43, Alan Premselaar wrote:
 Aside from the QP scatter, this subject doesn't look like it's properly
 encoded.  if memory serves, if the encoded subject needs to be broken
 across multiple lines, each line needs to have its own encoding
 start/end tags.

 so it should look something like:

 Subject: =?unicode-1-1-utf-7?Q?encoded_part?=
   =?unicode-1-1-utf-7?Q?more_encoded_part?=

 (someone correct me if i'm wrong)

In RFC 2047 section 2, it's clear you're right and M$ are wrong:

... unencoded white space
   characters (such as SPACE and HTAB) are FORBIDDEN within an
   'encoded-word'.  For example, the character sequence

  =?iso-8859-1?q?this is some text?=

   would be parsed as four 'atom's, rather than as a single 'atom' ...

RFC 822 (which 2047 was based on) says that a CRLF followed by space or tab 
is syntactically equivalent to just a space or tab.  RFC 2822 has similar 
language.  Hence encoded-words cannot be split across lines.

 Of course it's hard to tell because of the QuotedPrintable encoding
 artifacts, but it looks like your MS mail server is in some way
 misconfigured.

Yes sorry about the extra QP coding on the attachments, I normally use mutt 
so didn't realise kmail was going to mangle them.  I can resend them if 
you want, but they match what I sent except for the topmost Received line.

We don't have an M$ mail server (and I for one don't want one).  We're a 
Unix shop, as qmail and qpsmtpd in our own headers shows :)  

I'm quite prepared to believe this is a MS bug, it certainly looks like it.  
But it seems to be a long term one - seen in emails from SMTPSVC versions 
5.0.2195.6713 and 6.0.3790.1830.  Remote MS servers, configured for 
foreign languages, sending genuine non-spam bounces to non-spam mails 
cause SA to FP on this rule.

Nick


Was One large image now is several small images

2006-06-15 Thread Matt

It seems the spammers have gotten smart to the fact that we were
filtering for one large image and no text... now what I am seeing is
that the spammers are sending many small images inline with the
e-mails!But, I have yet to see a way to filter against this.  Any
thoughts?


Re: Was One large image now is several small images

2006-06-15 Thread John D. Hardin
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Matt wrote:

 It seems the spammers have gotten smart to the fact that we were
 filtering for one large image and no text... now what I am seeing
 is that the spammers are sending many small images inline with the
 e-mails!  But, I have yet to see a way to filter against this.  
 Any thoughts?

This is yet another argument for match counts in SA rules. It would be
useful to score (say) .10 per image attachment after the first two or
three...

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Re: The Future of Email is SQL

2006-06-15 Thread Ramprasad
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 11:50 -0700, Steve Thomas wrote:
  So - like I said - this is visionary stuff. Think SQL - think outside
  the box.
 
 It's not all that visionary. Microsoft's been working on WinFS - a SQL
 based system for storing files - for years. It's supposed to have been
 released as a part of longhorn (vista), but they're pushing it back.

   Oracle has OCS , which consists of a
mail/calendar/ldap/fileserver/webserver/  ... blah blah all with SQL
storage. And the database is .. no points for guessing that. 
But OCS is a terrible resource HOG ( understatement ) I dont think there
are many users for OCS

IMHO SQL storage is definitely going to be there.
The common indexing mechanism is what makes such storage interesting. I
agree it is slow now, but hardware and software will get better then
resource will not be an issue

Ram



content is being striped

2006-06-15 Thread Michael Di Martino
I am currently using SA 3.1.3  with the following
Net-qmail  (LWQ)
Simscan 1.2
Ripmine
Clamav
 
The problem currently is that all messages are being delvered striped of
their Subjects and Content
I am complealy stumped by this and all my google searches have come up
empty. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Below is my local.cf file
 
required_hits 8
report_safe 0
rewrite_header Subject [SPAM]


Thanks



Block: Google servers still on RBLs?

2006-06-15 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: Block: Google servers still on RBLs?





I know this has been discussed before, but is there a reason google is still on RBLs?


Nz-out-0102.google.com
64.233.162.203 listed on bl.spamcop.net 127.0.0.2


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What is normal period for SA retraining ?

2006-06-15 Thread Harris, Jason \(DIS\)
I'm wanting to know many times per year do SA admins have to retrain ?  
 
Our setup sends mail to SA client for a score, then depending on score
stores a backup of the mail in spam/ham mail folders for later review in
case a mistake is made.   We train SA and it detects flawlessly at this
beginning time;  the good mail numbers about 2000 per day and the spam
rates at about 1 per day.  In three months of time, SA is letting
most of the spam through, the rates I've listed above being reversed.
 
We keep a month of mail around for retraining, which is lot of work to
go through.   I was just wondering how ofter others have to do the same
thing.   Thanks!
 
SA Version 2.64
skip_rbl_checks 0
bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 7
use_bayes 1

  
Jason Harris


Re: What is normal period for SA retraining ?

2006-06-15 Thread Bob McClure Jr
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 01:17:51PM -0700, Harris, Jason (DIS) wrote:
 I'm wanting to know many times per year do SA admins have to retrain ?  
  
 Our setup sends mail to SA client for a score, then depending on score
 stores a backup of the mail in spam/ham mail folders for later review in
 case a mistake is made.   We train SA and it detects flawlessly at this
 beginning time;  the good mail numbers about 2000 per day and the spam
 rates at about 1 per day.  In three months of time, SA is letting
 most of the spam through, the rates I've listed above being reversed.
  
 We keep a month of mail around for retraining, which is lot of work to
 go through.   I was just wondering how ofter others have to do the same
 thing.   Thanks!
  
 SA Version 2.64
 skip_rbl_checks 0
 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 7
 use_bayes 1
 
   
 Jason Harris

I've never had to.  All my clients use per-user Bayes, and those that
care feed sa-learn anything that's mis-categorized.  I have a very low
false rate.  Currently using v3.1.1.

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Re: What is normal period for SA retraining ?

2006-06-15 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:17:51 -0700, Harris, Jason \(DIS\)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm wanting to know many times per year do SA admins have to retrain ?  
 
Our setup sends mail to SA client for a score, then depending on score
stores a backup of the mail in spam/ham mail folders for later review in
case a mistake is made.   We train SA and it detects flawlessly at this
beginning time;  the good mail numbers about 2000 per day and the spam
rates at about 1 per day.  In three months of time, SA is letting
most of the spam through, the rates I've listed above being reversed.
 
We keep a month of mail around for retraining, which is lot of work to
go through.   I was just wondering how ofter others have to do the same
thing.   Thanks!
 
SA Version 2.64
skip_rbl_checks 0
bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 7
use_bayes 1

  
Jason Harris

My Bayes DB is over 2 years old, I've done no mass retraining apart
from a few initial attempts. Since then I don't use auto_learn. When I
did I had the score set at 30 or above. With a score as low as 7 you
are likely to get all sorts of bayes poisoning spams trained in which
may explain why you are needing to retrain so often.

3.13 is the current version, I'm currently running 3.11  3.12 with
various SARE rulesets and I get very few FP's. Those that are found on
manual checks are retrained as ham, any spam getting through to the
user is retrained as spam. That combination has worked here and with
at least 2 other colleagues for about the same length of time (2 years
+)

HTH

Nigel


Re: What is normal period for SA retraining ?

2006-06-15 Thread Kris Deugau

Harris, Jason (DIS) wrote:
I'm wanting to know many times per year do SA admins have to retrain ?  


In a well-maintained install, you should NEVER have to retrain unless 
you have a catastrophic failure that crashes your live system *and* your 
backups.


Regular manual training of missed spam and mistagged ham is also 
critical to keep Bayes healthy.



SA Version 2.64


Have you patched it with the SURBL addon? 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/spamcopuri/


I've been using this on three servers, and it's been a MAJOR help in 
keeping SA2.64 effective.  3.x versions are just too resource-intensive 
for these systems.


Regular feedback in the form of manual training of missed spam and the 
occasional (~1 every few months) mistagged ham has kept Bayes pretty 
accurate, too.  Customer feedback gives me ~15-25 missed spams per week 
on this system.


This setup has been running with minor tweaks since ~SA2.44, with 
sitewide Bayes introduced along about 2.54 or 2.55 (I never installed 
earlier 2.5x versions due to the series of bugs that popped up).  It's 
survived hardware upgrades and a cross-distro move from RH7.3 to Debian 
woody - but I've never had to completely wipe and retrain the Bayes 
database.  (I had some fun getting Debian woody to recognize the RH7.3 
Bayes db;  I had to build a custom DB_File and force it to install over 
top of the stock Debian version.)


The same pretty much applies to my personal server's SA install (which I 
run per-user Bayes instead of sitewide).  I get ~5-6 messages slipping 
through each week, which I collect in a newspam folder that I manually 
feed to sa-learn on an irregular Oh look, three missed spams today basis.


-kgd


Re: Block: Google servers still on RBLs?

2006-06-15 Thread Andrzej Adam Filip
Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I know this has been discussed before, but is there a reason google is
 still on RBLs?

 Nz-out-0102.google.com
 64.233.162.203 listed on bl.spamcop.net 127.0.0.2


http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=64.233.162.203
2006-06-15T21:00:00Z
quote
64.233.162.203 listed in bl.spamcop.net (127.0.0.2)

If there are no reports of ongoing objectionable email from this system
it will be delisted automatically in approximately 14 hours.
Causes of listing
* System has sent mail to SpamCop spam traps in the past week (spam
  traps are secret, no reports or evidence are provided by SpamCop)
* SpamCop users have reported system as a source of spam less than
  10 times in the past week
/quote

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Re: FP's on BAD_ENC_HEADER in bounces from Microsoft SMTPSVC

2006-06-15 Thread alan premselaar
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Nick Leverton wrote:
[snip]

 We don't have an M$ mail server (and I for one don't want one).  We're a 
 Unix shop, as qmail and qpsmtpd in our own headers shows :)  
 
 I'm quite prepared to believe this is a MS bug, it certainly looks like it.  
 But it seems to be a long term one - seen in emails from SMTPSVC versions 
 5.0.2195.6713 and 6.0.3790.1830.  Remote MS servers, configured for 
 foreign languages, sending genuine non-spam bounces to non-spam mails 
 cause SA to FP on this rule.
 
 Nick

Nick,

 As much as I'd like to say yeah, it's yet another bad MS program ...
i'm not entirely convinced of that.  We used to run Exchange 2000 with
Japanese DSN messages and I'm certain that we didn't have this problem.
 As such, I suspect that the organizations that are using these
particular Exchange servers have probably just mis-configured them.

Of course I find it curious that they would use utf-7 encoding instead
of utf-8 (which seems more widely accepted).

Alan


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