No imageinfo.pm score
I just found out that there is no ImageInfo plugin score in one of my server. Spamassassin debug show: Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassas sin/3.003001/updates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/u pdates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf for included file Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.00300 1/updates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf .. ... .. .. Jun 1 17:47:08.197 [29338] dbg: imageinfo: image ratio=0.000254277605525206, mi n=0.000 max=0.008 Jun 1 17:47:08.197 [29338] dbg: rules: ran eval rule __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO == got hit (1) But there is no DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO score. I test the same spam in other server and have DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO score. I compare the debug log and can't see the difference. --barry
Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
Here's my situation: I lease a host from a provider. They initially did all my setup, and I do the simple maintenance I need. A short time ago, the spam increased dramatically. Others on this list reported it, and a common suggested problem was that the installed Spamassassin was badly out of date. Mine is 3.0.4, and I probably fall into that category. I called my co-hosting provider and asked to have Spamassassin upgraded. They told me that to do this would require an upgrade to my Fedora core, which would require an upgrade to this, and to that, and I'd then need to reinstall those... Bottom line is that the whole ordeal will cost me thousands of dollars, which I simply don't have. My gut feeling is that a SA upgrade *could* be done, but they see an opportunity to get some cash out of me, and they know they've got me by the short hairs. I do a lot of my own installations without any problem, but the thing is that I've got a couple dozen customers using Spamassassin, and if I crash and burn on the upgrade, it won't be a pretty situation. So... I was wondering if it's possible to install an alternate version of Spamassassin and verify that it's working properly before burning my bridge on the outdated (but working) version I've currently got installed. Thanks for any advice. --pat-- -- Pat Traynor p...@ssih.com
Re: No imageinfo.pm score
On 2011-06-01 12:42, Barry Kwok wrote: I just found out that there is no ImageInfo plugin score in one of my server. Spamassassin debug show: Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassas sin/3.003001/updates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/u pdates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf for included file Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.00300 1/updates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf .. ... .. .. Jun 1 17:47:08.197 [29338] dbg: imageinfo: image ratio=0.000254277605525206, mi n=0.000 max=0.008 Jun 1 17:47:08.197 [29338] dbg: rules: ran eval rule __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO == got hit (1) But there is no DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO score. I test the same spam in other server and have DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO score. I compare the debug log and can't see the difference. __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO is used by the meta DC_IMAGE_SPAM_TEXT Per default there is no DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO rule scoring unless you've set a score manually Pls paste the sample message on pastebin.com and let others compare results
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Pat Traynor p...@ssih.com wrote: I was wondering if it's possible to install an alternate version of Spamassassin and verify that it's working properly before burning my bridge on the outdated (but working) version I've currently got installed. It possible. But this, of course, depends on your skills. For example, if you ever need a newer Perl library/module, you will also need to install it. Why wont you try on a Virtual machine first? Install the old Fedora and try it out. That said, depending how Spamassassin is called, you will have it working or not. On some servers, the MTA directly submit to Spamassassin (via network or not) with no possibility for a user to change the paremeters (path or port), so you could also run into that problem. -- RMA.
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: It possible. But this, of course, depends on your skills. For example, if you ever need a newer Perl library/module, you will also need to install it. My perl installation is at the latest version as of about a month ago (5.3.12), and I'm comfortable installing modules. Why wont you try on a Virtual machine first? Install the old Fedora and try it out. Well, THAT is probably well beyond my capabilities - getting a server completely installed to the point of it accepting outside mail. Thanks for the ideas! --pat-- -- Pat Traynor p...@ssih.com
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Pat Traynor p...@ssih.com wrote: Why wont you try on a Virtual machine first? Install the old Fedora and try it out. Well, THAT is probably well beyond my capabilities - getting a server completely installed to the point of it accepting outside mail. Pat, you just need to telnet virtual-server 25, and test several deliveries. Nothing beyound :-) -- RMA.
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On 6/1/11 7:37 AM, Pat Traynor wrote: My perl installation is at the latest version as of about a month ago (5.3.12), and I'm comfortable installing modules. I believe for current versions of SA, the minimum perl is 5.8.8 and, the modules, especially the sha and crypt modules need to be installed all together. you will need to install newer dkim and spf modules. untar SA, and look at the install and readme's for dependencies. -- Michael Scheidell, CTO o: 561-999-5000 d: 561-948-2259 *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Best Mobile Solutions Product of 2011 * Best Intrusion Prevention Product * Hot Company Finalist 2011 * Best Email Security Product * Certified SNORT Integrator __ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.secnap.com/products/spammertrap/ __
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 6/1/11 7:37 AM, Pat Traynor wrote: My perl installation is at the latest version as of about a month ago (5.3.12), and I'm comfortable installing modules. I believe for current versions of SA, the minimum perl is 5.8.8 See, this is why I really shouldn't be left alone in front of a keyboard. My perl installation is 5.12.3, NOT 5.3.12. Sigh... --pat-- -- Pat Traynor p...@ssih.com
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On 6/1/11 8:43 AM, Pat Traynor wrote: See, this is why I really shouldn't be left alone in front of a keyboard. My perl installation is 5.12.3, NOT 5.3.12. Sigh... it should be 'safe' to backup the ../site_perl* and ../lib/perl5* libraries, and try to upgrade the perl modules first. newer pm's SHOULD work with old SA. look at upgrading file and tar/pax as well. --pat-- -- Michael Scheidell, CTO o: 561-999-5000 d: 561-948-2259 *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Best Mobile Solutions Product of 2011 * Best Intrusion Prevention Product * Hot Company Finalist 2011 * Best Email Security Product * Certified SNORT Integrator __ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.secnap.com/products/spammertrap/ __
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 6/1/11 8:43 AM, Pat Traynor wrote: See, this is why I really shouldn't be left alone in front of a keyboard. My perl installation is 5.12.3, NOT 5.3.12. Sigh... it should be 'safe' to backup the ../site_perl* and ../lib/perl5* libraries, and try to upgrade the perl modules first. newer pm's SHOULD work with old SA. look at upgrading file and tar/pax as well. Sounds good. I'll look into that and tread carefully. --pat-- -- Pat Traynor p...@ssih.com
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On 6/1/2011 7:22 AM, Pat Traynor wrote: Here's my situation: I lease a host from a provider. They initially did all my setup, and I do the simple maintenance I need. A short time ago, the spam increased dramatically. Others on this list reported it, and a common suggested problem was that the installed Spamassassin was badly out of date. Mine is 3.0.4, and I probably fall into that category. I called my co-hosting provider and asked to have Spamassassin upgraded. They told me that to do this would require an upgrade to my Fedora core, which would require an upgrade to this, and to that, and I'd then need to reinstall those... Bottom line is that the whole ordeal will cost me thousands of dollars, which I simply don't have. My gut feeling is that a SA upgrade *could* be done, but they see an opportunity to get some cash out of me, and they know they've got me by the short hairs. Sounds like they're looking for money. SA is dependent on Perl and a bunch of modules, but if you are already at 5.12 as you mentioned in a later post, there should be nothing stopping you from upgrading SA. This upgrade should take a couple of hours at most. This is definitely not something that should cost thousands of dollars and require you to upgrade everything. I do a lot of my own installations without any problem, but the thing is that I've got a couple dozen customers using Spamassassin, and if I crash and burn on the upgrade, it won't be a pretty situation. So... I was wondering if it's possible to install an alternate version of Spamassassin and verify that it's working properly before burning my bridge on the outdated (but working) version I've currently got installed. That could be a bit tricky. You would have to upgrade the required Perl modules first (which *shouldn't* cause a problem with the old SA version). Then you could install the new SA in your local directory and call it directly from there with some test mail files to verify that it is working. However, you would probably then want to re-install it into the system directories to be used by the server. In-place upgrades have never been a problem for me. I generally install the new version while the old version is still up and running. Then I just restart spamd to activate the new stuff. Since spamd reads everything into memory when it starts, it doesn't really matter that the files are changing while it is running. Sure, it is possible for this to cause problems, but I've been doing it for years now with no issues. That being said, I've been following the current versions pretty closely and have never tried to jump as far as 3.0.4 to 3.3.1. There may be some incompatibilities with the Bayes DB format and there may also be some changes in the configuration keywords, but your testing should be able to catch those easily enough before you try to go live. Try to install it the same way it was installed originally (rpm, CPAN, source?) to cut down on the problems with having different versions installed in different places. -- Bowie
How to change a database (configuration)
Hello, I am a newbie in using Spamassassin. I need your help as for configuration of spamassasin. I use Debian Lenny Spamassassin 3.2.5 and I want to change database from Berkeley DB to SDBM (because this database was recommended me on this forum). 1) I have to dump Berkeley DB a then import it as a SDBM. 2) I have to change configuration Spamassassin - set SDBM as a work database now. I found a guide how to change database, but I doesnt exactly understand what I have to do. The guide: http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:anti_spam:spamassassin:bayes:sdbm Could you give me a clue? Thanks a lot. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/How-to-change-a-database-%28configuration%29-tp31749051p31749051.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: No imageinfo.pm score
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Yet Another Ninja axb.li...@gmail.comwrote: On 2011-06-01 12:42, Barry Kwok wrote: I just found out that there is no ImageInfo plugin score in one of my server. Spamassassin debug show: Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassas sin/3.003001/updates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/u pdates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf for included file Jun 1 17:46:50.229 [29338] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.00300 1/updates_spamassassin_org/20_imageinfo.cf .. ... .. .. Jun 1 17:47:08.197 [29338] dbg: imageinfo: image ratio=0.000254277605525206, mi n=0.000 max=0.008 Jun 1 17:47:08.197 [29338] dbg: rules: ran eval rule __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO == got hit (1) But there is no DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO score. I test the same spam in other server and have DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO score. I compare the debug log and can't see the difference. __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO is used by the meta DC_IMAGE_SPAM_TEXT Per default there is no DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO rule scoring unless you've set a score manually Pls paste the sample message on pastebin.com and let others compare results I have manually set a score for __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO but there still no score. here is a sample spam messages: http://pastebin.com/T2rszLgJ
Re: No imageinfo.pm score
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Barry Kwok wrote: I have manually set a score for __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO but there still no score. Subrules (rules whose names begin with two underscores) _cannot_ have a score assigned to them, as they do not by themselves contribute to the message's score. They are combined with other rules in meta rules which, if not also named with two leading underscores, may be assigned a score. Look to see what meta rules __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO appears in. Are those rules listed as hits in your log? Are those rules assigned scores that make sense? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- Mine eyes have seen the horror of the voting of the horde; They've looted the fromagerie where guv'ment cheese is stored; If war's not won before the break they grow so quickly bored; Their vote counts as much as yours. -- Tam --- 5 days until the 67th anniversary of D-Day
Re: No imageinfo.pm score
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:31 PM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Barry Kwok wrote: I have manually set a score for __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO but there still no score. Subrules (rules whose names begin with two underscores) _cannot_ have a score assigned to them, as they do not by themselves contribute to the message's score. They are combined with other rules in meta rules which, if not also named with two leading underscores, may be assigned a score. Look to see what meta rules __DC_IMG_TEXT_RATIO appears in. Are those rules listed as hits in your log? Are those rules assigned scores that make sense? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- Mine eyes have seen the horror of the voting of the horde; They've looted the fromagerie where guv'ment cheese is stored; If war's not won before the break they grow so quickly bored; Their vote counts as much as yours. -- Tam --- 5 days until the 67th anniversary of D-Day Thanks. I manually create a meta rule set a score. Spamassassin now hits. --barry
Re: Can I install upgraded Spamassassin without uninstalling old?
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:47:28 -0400, Michael Scheidell michael.scheid...@secnap.com wrote: it should be 'safe' to backup the ../site_perl* and ../lib/perl5* libraries, and try to upgrade the perl modules first. newer pm's SHOULD work with old SA. it will just be unsafe to restore it, correct way to upgrade is with rpms if installed that way, missing latest spamassassin, make a bug on your distro by not doing this one learns more if it fails
