Re: Understanding ruleQA results

2018-08-15 Thread John Hardin

On Wed, 15 Aug 2018, RW wrote:


On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:43:52 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:


On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, RW wrote:



I don't know that this is particularly specific to mobile, lots of
people send emails with an empty subject.

It sounds like the main cause would be a signature that contains the
senders name as the only thing in a line. That'll be why all the
FPs mentioned above came from the same person.


Question: were those messages scored as spam?


MISSING_SUBJECT + BAYES_50 + FRNAME_IN_MSG_NO_SUBJ scores 6.098


If I'm reading the score-map correctly (and 4 represents 4.000 to
4.999), then limiting the score to 2.0 seems like a reasonable
compromise.


scoremap spam:  1   0.17%2
scoremap spam:  3   1.99%   23
scoremap spam:  4  88.86% 1029 ***
scoremap spam:  5   3.28%   38 *


OK, I'll drop the score limit on the FRNAME_IN_MSG rules a bit.


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Re: Understanding ruleQA results

2018-08-15 Thread John Hardin

On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, micah anderson wrote:


John Hardin  writes:


On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, micah anderson wrote:


John Hardin  writes:


On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, micah anderson wrote:


OK, I can see about adding some mobile MUA exclusions. Any FP headers you
can provide (directly) will be helpful. Go ahead and sanitize the
recipient info, I don't think that would be relevant to tuning this one.


I put 4 of the messages here:

https://pastebin.com/YuPtBQXN

thanks for your help!

micah


Thanks.

Yesterday I added a FP avoidance check for DKIM based on the (very few) 
ham hits that are in the masscheck corpus; it seems that should be enough 
to avoid these messages as he's sending via gmail and it adds DKIM.


I'm adding some xmailer subrules - the mobile MUA coverage is thin. I 
don't expect to see a lot of overlap, but I may add them anyway based on 
your report.


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Re: Understanding ruleQA results

2018-08-15 Thread RW
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:43:52 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, RW wrote:

> > I don't know that this is particularly specific to mobile, lots of
> > people send emails with an empty subject.
> >
> > It sounds like the main cause would be a signature that contains the
> > senders name as the only thing in a line. That'll be why all the
> > FPs mentioned above came from the same person.  
> 
> Question: were those messages scored as spam?

MISSING_SUBJECT + BAYES_50 + FRNAME_IN_MSG_NO_SUBJ scores 6.098


If I'm reading the score-map correctly (and 4 represents 4.000 to
4.999), then limiting the score to 2.0 seems like a reasonable
compromise.


scoremap spam:  1   0.17%2 
scoremap spam:  3   1.99%   23 
scoremap spam:  4  88.86% 1029 ***
scoremap spam:  5   3.28%   38 *






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2018-08-15 Thread RW
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