Fake MX Record(s) Trick

2008-06-23 Thread Marc Ferguson
Hi,

I'm a linux noob and a spam assassin noob so please reply in simplified
language.  Thanks.

I saw on the wiki a trick to use fake mx records in order to weed out spam (
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OtherTricks).  I'm using Evolution at
home and on my laptop and I have the spamassassin plugin so I'm constantly
clicking the junk icon.  I have access to my shared web hosting account
and I sure do get TONS of spam.  I'm a bit confused as to how to implement
it though.  My web host uses WHM so my form looks something like this:

digitalalias.net  14400  IN  MX  0  digitalalias.net

What is 14400, I'm guessing a port of some kind.  Besides that the wiki
suggests that my first fake mx record should be set at 10, then my real mx
record at 20, and then another fake one at 30.  Why is this since my current
mx record is set to 0?

fake0.example.com 10
realmx.example.com 20
fake1.example.com 30


Marc F.

..Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come..
-Rev1:4


Re: How do I Test SpamAssassin

2008-05-16 Thread Marc Ferguson
Hi,

I am a total newb to spamassassin and some network tools you mentioned
so I don't know how to do what you suggested.  I looked up spamc and I
see it's the client to spamd, but I didn't understand fully what I read.

Besides testing to see if spamassassin is working I wanted to increase
the filters.  I don't know if i'm saying it right.  Mail does go to my
junk box but i'd like more mail in my junkbox.  I do not have full
control over my mail server.  Thanks.

On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 11:32 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:

 On Sunday 11 May 2008 09:13:28 Marc Ferguson wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I looked on the wiki to see how do I test my installation of
  spamassassin.  I'm confused because it's not really giving me a method
  that works right out-of-the-box.  It looks like the preferred method is
  The GTUBE.  Based on that page it looks like I would use an external
  mail client, such as Gmail, Yahoo, or anything else besides my local
  desktop email client - and send mail to myself making sure a specific
  68-byte string is in the body of the email.
 
  My results have been that Gmail won't send it because their spam filter
  recognizes it.  I've tried Yahoo and they did the same thing.  I'm a
  regular user and I'm trying to apply this to my evolution application.
  Thanks for any clarification.
 
  Marc F.
 
 
 just use spamc and feed a message manually, unless you want to test your MTA, 
 in which case you need to check the manual of your mta.
 You can as well just send a message to yourself using telnet from your home 
 computer. a properly setup spamfilter will match XBL, no matter the content 
 of your message.

Marc F.


Re: How do I Test SpamAssassin

2008-05-16 Thread Marc Ferguson

On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 22:10 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:

 Please don't top-post.  It makes it much harder to read.
 
 Marc Ferguson wrote:
  Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
   just use spamc and feed a message manually, unless you want to
   test your MTA, in which case you need to check the manual of your
   mta.  You can as well just send a message to yourself using telnet
   from your home computer. a properly setup spamfilter will match
   XBL, no matter the content of your message.
 
  I am a total newb to spamassassin and some network tools you mentioned
  so I don't know how to do what you suggested.  I looked up spamc and I
  see it's the client to spamd, but I didn't understand fully what I read.
 
 By this I assume that you are using spamassassin directly and not
 spamc.  (That's okay.  I use spamassassin directly too. :-)  The
 two are almost the same thing in functionality.  In which case you can
 translate that instruction into feed the message into spamassassin.
 
 You can also tell if spamassassin is working by the presence of X-Spam
 headers in the processed messages.  If the header is there then
 spamassassin is processing the message.  If not then it isn't.
 
  Besides testing to see if spamassassin is working I wanted to increase
  the filters.  I don't know if i'm saying it right.  Mail does go to my
  junk box but i'd like more mail in my junkbox.  I do not have full
  control over my mail server.  Thanks.
 
 One very large lever is the Bayes engine.  But it needs 200 spam
 messages and 200 non-spam messages before it will have enough history
 to add to the scoring.  You can see how many messages have been
 processed using sa-learn like this:
 
   sa-learn --dump magic
 
 Bob
 
 

Not top replying is goiing to be a tough thing to get used to.  I did
the magic dump and this is my result.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sa-learn --dump magic
0.000  0  3  0  non-token data: bayes db version
0.000  0   1312  0  non-token data: nspam
0.000  0693  0  non-token data: nham
0.000  0 112435  0  non-token data: ntokens
0.000  0 1180964576  0  non-token data: oldest atime
0.000  0 1210998882  0  non-token data: newest atime
0.000  0 1210992306  0  non-token data: last journal
sync atime
0.000  0  0  0  non-token data: last expiry
atime
0.000  0  0  0  non-token data: last expire
atime delta
0.000  0  0  0  non-token data: last expire
reduction count
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ 

Marc F.


How do I Test SpamAssassin

2008-05-11 Thread Marc Ferguson
Hi,

I looked on the wiki to see how do I test my installation of
spamassassin.  I'm confused because it's not really giving me a method
that works right out-of-the-box.  It looks like the preferred method is
The GTUBE.  Based on that page it looks like I would use an external
mail client, such as Gmail, Yahoo, or anything else besides my local
desktop email client - and send mail to myself making sure a specific
68-byte string is in the body of the email.

My results have been that Gmail won't send it because their spam filter
recognizes it.  I've tried Yahoo and they did the same thing.  I'm a
regular user and I'm trying to apply this to my evolution application.
Thanks for any clarification.

Marc F.