moving the bayesian database and auto whitelist to a new cerver?

2006-09-02 Thread Nick Rout
I am moving my email to a new server. How do I ensure that the procmail 
bayseian database and auto whitelist for each user is moved too?

Should I just copy ~/.spamassassin/* for each user?

Here is the contents for my ~/.spamassassin/

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.spamassassin $ ls -l
total 37636
-rw---  1 nick users 5386240 Sep  2 19:16 auto-whitelist
-rw---  2 nick users 7107377 Jan 11  2005 auto-whitelist.dir
-rw---  2 nick users 7107377 Jan 11  2005 auto-whitelist.pag
-rw---  1 nick users 105 Jan 10  2005 bayes.lock.www.rout.co.nz.11956
-rw---  1 nick users   73344 Sep  2 19:16 bayes_journal
-rw---  1 nick users 5472256 Sep  2 17:49 bayes_seen
-rw---  1 nick users 5410816 Sep  2 17:49 bayes_toks
-rw-r--r--  1 nick users 5206016 Jan 10  2005 old_bayes_seen
-rw-r--r--  1 nick users 5206016 Jan 10  2005 old_bayes_toks
-rw-r--r--  1 nick users  344064 Jan 10  2005 old_bayes_toks.new
-rw-r--r--  1 nick users1165 Feb  9  2004 user_prefs


analysing the logs

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Rout
Using spamd started from .procmailrc, it logs to syslog and ends up in
/var/log/mail.log, along with postfix's log and courier-imap's log.

How can I get some analysis of this?, eg positives per day, etc.

Have googled a bit, and looked in the archives, a lot of people talk
about their stats, not many messages show the commands they use to get
them!
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Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST problem

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:49:19 -0700
Kelson wrote:

 Nick Rout wrote:
  So I take it USER_IN_WHITELIST also checks Return-Path? I wonder where
  Return-Path is being set? Is it likely to be set by the spammer? Or is
  my system adding it in somewhere (probably in error).
 
 Return-Path is usually added by the receiving system, and contains the 
 envelope sender of the message.  So effectively, it's set by the sender.
 
 It can legitimately disagree with the value in the From header.  A 
 perfect example would be this message right here.  From will contain my 
 email address, but Return-Path will contain an address managed by the 
 mailing list software at spamassassin.apache.org

Thank you for that, it helps fill in the picture in my fuzzy old brain.
Cheers.

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Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



USER_IN_WHITELIST problem

2006-08-22 Thread Nick Rout
Hi, I am new to this list and certainly not a SA expert, however I have
moderate experience in general linux issues and mailer issues.

I am getting a series of messages allowed through on the basis of
USER_IN_WHITELIST. I have searched the mailing list archive and pored
over my setup files and just cannot understand why these messages are
getting marked USER_IN_WHITELIST.

The headers are below, my (perhaps limited) understanding is:

(1) that USER_IN_WHITELIST has nothing to do with bayes or AWL So I am
ignoring them.

(2) I have checked the .cf files in /usr/share/spamassassin,
/etc/spamassassin/ and ~nick/.spamassassin/ and cannot see any reason
why [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be getting whitelisted (or indeed any of the
other users in this series of emails)

(3) the X-Spam-* headers seem to be written by my machine (rather than
being forged, if that were possible)

(4) SA is launched out of spamd/spamc via ~/.procmailrc on gentoo linux.
The MTA is postfix and the SA version is 3.1.3. 

Can anyone help me with where to look next?


Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3-gr0 (2006-06-01) on www.rout.co.nz
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-88.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_99, 
HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH,MIME_HTML_ONLY, 
MSGID_SPAM_LETTERS,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.1.3-gr0
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from Trishamobile.net (unknown [196.36.9.186])
 by www.rout.co.nz (Postfix)
 with SMTP id 7169A19DA6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:38:17 +1200 (NZST)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:41:19 +0200
To: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Judith
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ntrgncacgcywucwiohzd
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Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST problem

2006-08-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:58:59 -0400
Rick Macdougall wrote:


  
  
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3-gr0 (2006-06-01) on 
  www.rout.co.nz
  X-Spam-Level: 
  X-Spam-Status: No, score=-88.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_99, 
  HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH,MIME_HTML_ONLY, 
  MSGID_SPAM_LETTERS,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.1.3-gr0
 
 The return-path looks a little iffy to me, have you white listed 
 yourself or your domain ? (hint: not a good idea).
 
 Regards,
 
 Rick

Thanks, quick reply! (Thanks too Daryl, also quick)

So I take it USER_IN_WHITELIST also checks Return-Path? I wonder where
Return-Path is being set? Is it likely to be set by the spammer? Or is
my system adding it in somewhere (probably in error).

Anyway, yes I did whitelist my domain owing to a few false positives, 
(my wife asking about money or s** or both?) Whitelisting seemed the
obvious but clearly wrong idea. The relevantt line will be this one in
/etc/spamassassin/local.cf:

whitelist_from  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   (yep thats my domain)

So is there any better way to do it? (Clearly there will be, but I don't
yet know what it is, your further help will be appreciated)






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Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]