RE: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
>-Original Message- >From: Alan Premselaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:13 AM >To: Jim Maul >Cc: Chris Santerre; users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone? > > >Jim Maul wrote: >> Chris Santerre wrote: >> >>>> Autodialing for commercial solicitation to a residence >without prior >>>> consent by a for-profit group that you're not already >doing business >>>> with is automatically subject to a $500 minimum damage per-call. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know of many residences with VoIP ;) >>> Also: LOL @ LoogieLauncher! >>> >>> --Chris (On top of Mt. Wannahuckaloogie and the ring of fire!) >>> >>> >> >> >> While there arent many homes with voip yet, there are more and more >> every day. With vonage and optimum pushing their voip >products hard, >> its only a matter of time. Especially with optimum and their voip + >> cable tv + cable modem for $100/month deal. > > >I've had VOIP at home for over a year now. (included with my >ADSL service) I said 'many' ;) Does Roger Wilco, Teamspeak, and Ventrilo count as VoIP? :) I've been using those longer then I can remember. --Chris (There is a Leprechaun starring at me now, and its freaking me out.)
Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
Jim Maul wrote: Chris Santerre wrote: Autodialing for commercial solicitation to a residence without prior consent by a for-profit group that you're not already doing business with is automatically subject to a $500 minimum damage per-call. I don't know of many residences with VoIP ;) Also: LOL @ LoogieLauncher! --Chris (On top of Mt. Wannahuckaloogie and the ring of fire!) While there arent many homes with voip yet, there are more and more every day. With vonage and optimum pushing their voip products hard, its only a matter of time. Especially with optimum and their voip + cable tv + cable modem for $100/month deal. I've had VOIP at home for over a year now. (included with my ADSL service) alan
Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
Richard Ozer wrote: I can't wait to tell my customers that they need to get SpitAssassin. RO That just makes me think of 'Alumn' (referenced from the old Bugs Bunny / Daffy Duck cartoons) alan
Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
Andy Donovan wrote: Especially with optimum and their voip + cable tv + cable modem for $100/month deal. *choke* ahhh the classic CableVision bait and Switch ... I'm paying closer to $200/month and I don't even have the VOIP yet ... So im not the only one? heh im paying $40/month alone just for my cable modem. The tv adds another $80 on top of that. I REALLY wish there was another cable provider on long island... -Jim
Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
>> Especially with optimum and their voip + cable tv + cable modem for >> $100/month deal. *choke* ahhh the classic CableVision bait and Switch ... I'm paying closer to $200/month and I don't even have the VOIP yet ...
Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
Chris Santerre wrote: Autodialing for commercial solicitation to a residence without prior consent by a for-profit group that you're not already doing business with is automatically subject to a $500 minimum damage per-call. I don't know of many residences with VoIP ;) Also: LOL @ LoogieLauncher! --Chris (On top of Mt. Wannahuckaloogie and the ring of fire!) While there arent many homes with voip yet, there are more and more every day. With vonage and optimum pushing their voip products hard, its only a matter of time. Especially with optimum and their voip + cable tv + cable modem for $100/month deal.
RE: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
> >Autodialing for commercial solicitation to a residence without prior >consent by a for-profit group that you're not already doing >business with >is automatically subject to a $500 minimum damage per-call. I don't know of many residences with VoIP ;) Also: LOL @ LoogieLauncher! --Chris (On top of Mt. Wannahuckaloogie and the ring of fire!)
Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
Matt Kettler wrote: Tracking down the originator is still a problem, and international senders are a problem, but at least in the case of Spit you've got the law on your side, unlike spam where the law is on the spammer's side (can-spam) All this talk of VOIP Spam (Spit) almost has me thinking of going into the spammer tools business just so I can name a product LoogieLauncher... Steve
RE: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
At 12:23 PM 2/17/2005, Chris Santerre wrote: More likely a hash. But this is another reason that filtering isn't the end solution to the problem. Putting the spammers in jail is. Same goes for mobile spam. What does suck is that these SPITs will be harder to trace. I'm guessing they will fall under wiretap laws and such. Fortunately, in the US, Spit would fall under the TCPA (Telephone Consumer Protection Act, not the Trusted Computing Platform Alliance). The US may have lousy anti-spam laws, but the unsolicited commercial telephony laws are at least somewhat useful. http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/tcpa.html Autodialing for commercial solicitation to a residence without prior consent by a for-profit group that you're not already doing business with is automatically subject to a $500 minimum damage per-call. Tracking down the originator is still a problem, and international senders are a problem, but at least in the case of Spit you've got the law on your side, unlike spam where the law is on the spammer's side (can-spam)
Re: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
I can't wait to tell my customers that they need to get SpitAssassin. RO - Original Message - From: "Craig McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: OT: Bayes for VoIP anyone? A whole new set of challenges heading our way... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/17/spam_gets_vocal_with_voip/ Craig.
RE: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
> >A whole new set of challenges heading our way... > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/17/spam_gets_vocal_with_voip/ > More likely a hash. But this is another reason that filtering isn't the end solution to the problem. Putting the spammers in jail is. Same goes for mobile spam. What does suck is that these SPITs will be harder to trace. I'm guessing they will fall under wiretap laws and such. --Chris
OT: Bayes for VoIP anyone?
A whole new set of challenges heading our way... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/17/spam_gets_vocal_with_voip/ Craig.
