Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread Marc Perkel



arni wrote:

Suhas Ingale schrieb:


Can someone help me writing rules to catch below content spam?

 


*  5.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
*  [score: 1.]
*  0.1 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS
*  5.0 BOTNET Relay might be a spambot or virusbot
*  [botnet0.7,ip=87.226.203.3,nordns]
*  0.0 DKIM_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys Identified Mail: policy says 
domain
*   signs some mails
*  0.0 BOTNET_NORDNS Relay's IP address has no PTR record
*  [botnet_nordns,ip=87.226.203.3]
*  1.9 RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP Received: contains illegal IP address
*  1.9 URIBL_AB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist
*  [URIs: otcpicks.com]
*  2.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in 
bl.spamcop.net
*  [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?87.226.203.3]
*  3.0 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [87.226.203.3 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]
*  0.5 WHOIS_DMNBYPROXY Contains URL registered to Domains by Proxy
*  [URIs: otcpicks.com]
*  1.5 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase


Another SREA spam easily busted with BOTNET and BAYES, i dont really see the 
need for a content rule.

arni
  


That doesn't answer his question though. He didn't ask for your opinion 
about if he needed it. If the rules were working for him he wouldn't be 
asking for help. When someone asks a question telling them they don't 
need it is generally the wrong answer and a waste of time.




Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread arni

Suhas Ingale schrieb:


Can someone help me writing rules to catch below content spam?

 


*  5.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
*  [score: 1.]
*  0.1 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS
*  5.0 BOTNET Relay might be a spambot or virusbot
*  [botnet0.7,ip=87.226.203.3,nordns]
*  0.0 DKIM_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys Identified Mail: policy says 
domain
*   signs some mails
*  0.0 BOTNET_NORDNS Relay's IP address has no PTR record
*  [botnet_nordns,ip=87.226.203.3]
*  1.9 RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP Received: contains illegal IP address
*  1.9 URIBL_AB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist
*  [URIs: otcpicks.com]
*  2.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in 
bl.spamcop.net
*  [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?87.226.203.3]
*  3.0 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [87.226.203.3 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]
*  0.5 WHOIS_DMNBYPROXY Contains URL registered to Domains by Proxy
*  [URIs: otcpicks.com]
*  1.5 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase


Another SREA spam easily busted with BOTNET and BAYES, i dont really see the 
need for a content rule.

arni



Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread arni

Marc Perkel schrieb:


That doesn't answer his question though. He didn't ask for your 
opinion about if he needed it. If the rules were working for him he 
wouldn't be asking for help. When someone asks a question telling them 
they don't need it is generally the wrong answer and a waste of time.


I was more trying to show him that installing the botnet plugin alone, 
together with a decent bayes or 1 or 2 more rules already does the job 
and instead of writing a new rule for each stock spam that comes out, 
this will catch almost all of it (all of it in my case)


arni


Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread Marc Perkel



arni wrote:

Marc Perkel schrieb:


That doesn't answer his question though. He didn't ask for your 
opinion about if he needed it. If the rules were working for him he 
wouldn't be asking for help. When someone asks a question telling 
them they don't need it is generally the wrong answer and a waste of 
time.


I was more trying to show him that installing the botnet plugin alone, 
together with a decent bayes or 1 or 2 more rules already does the job 
and instead of writing a new rule for each stock spam that comes out, 
this will catch almost all of it (all of it in my case)


arni


Actually the fastest way to get rid of stoc/botnet spam is with fake MX 
records.


fake 10
real 20
fake 30
fake 40



Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread arni

Marc Perkel schrieb:


Actually the fastest way to get rid of stoc/botnet spam is with fake 
MX records.


fake 10
real 20
fake 30
fake 40

I dont like the idea of making life harder for ham (forcing a properly 
working mailserver to make at least 2 connections) acompanied with the 
same delays as greylisting.


Why make life harder for ham if you can detect the spam easily?

arni



Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread Matt

together with a decent bayes or 1 or 2 more rules already does the job and


Where do I get the botnet plugin(prefer rpm) and how do I make
Spamassassin use it?

Matt


Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread arni

Matt schrieb:
together with a decent bayes or 1 or 2 more rules already does the 
job and


Where do I get the botnet plugin(prefer rpm) and how do I make
Spamassassin use it?

Matt


http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/

docs inside the archive - botnet is really one of the most effective 
plugins i use these days (make sure you set your internal nets properly 
otherwise it sometimes doesnt work properly, especially SOHO detection 
for me)


arni


Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread Matt

http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/

docs inside the archive - botnet is really one of the most effective
plugins i use these days (make sure you set your internal nets properly


I have Spamassassin setup to whitelist all my own IP pools.  Do I need
to do anything else?

Matt



otherwise it sometimes doesnt work properly, especially SOHO detection
for me)

arni



Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread arni

Matt schrieb:

I have Spamassassin setup to whitelist all my own IP pools.  Do I need
to do anything else?

Matt
make sure that anything that is an MX for x@allyourdomains.com is in 
your internal_networks


arni


Re: Help in writing rules to catch SREA stock spams

2007-06-22 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 17:03 +0200, arni wrote:
 Marc Perkel schrieb: 
  
  That doesn't answer his question though. He didn't ask for your
  opinion about if he needed it. If the rules were working for him he
  wouldn't be asking for help. When someone asks a question telling
  them they don't need it is generally the wrong answer and a waste of
  time.
  
 I was more trying to show him that installing the botnet plugin alone,
 together with a decent bayes or 1 or 2 more rules already does the job
 and instead of writing a new rule for each stock spam that comes out,
 this will catch almost all of it (all of it in my case)

Well, bayes is very hard to implement on a mid-span spamassassin
implementation (no feedback loop for missed spam or false ham).  In my
case, I use spamassassin under amavisd-new as a front-end filter,
discard/quarantine the trash, then deliver to MS Exchange for end users
to read.

And I've been catching  actual customers and vendors right-and-left with
the botnet plugin.  Too many false positives, even combining it with
p0f, for me to feel very good about it.

-- 
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE # 2495, CISSP # 78281, CNX
Austin Energy
http://www.austinenergy.com