Re: How do I disable spews?
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:06 -0800, SA wrote: On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 17:42, Thomas Cameron wrote: Didn't SPEWS shut down and blacklist the world? Thomas No. Yes, they did - I found this article on Slashdot. Did they go down and then come back later? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/27/0214238 Thomas
Re: How do I disable spews?
At 12:32 AM 12/26/2004 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: Didn't SPEWS shut down and blacklist the world? Thomas No. Yes, they did - I found this article on Slashdot. Did they go down and then come back later? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/27/0214238 Thomas No, that's OSIRUSOFT that went down and set it's records to blacklist everything. OSIRUSOFT included SPEWS as a part of their data, but they also included half a dozen other blacklists and their own data. OSIRUSOFT was nothing but a very popular aggregate blacklist that included SPEWS data. SPEWS is a separate entity. SPEWS never went down.
Re: How do I disable spews?
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 09:48 -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: At 12:32 AM 12/26/2004 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: Didn't SPEWS shut down and blacklist the world? Thomas No. Yes, they did - I found this article on Slashdot. Did they go down and then come back later? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/27/0214238 Thomas No, that's OSIRUSOFT that went down and set it's records to blacklist everything. OSIRUSOFT included SPEWS as a part of their data, but they also included half a dozen other blacklists and their own data. OSIRUSOFT was nothing but a very popular aggregate blacklist that included SPEWS data. SPEWS is a separate entity. SPEWS never went down. Ah, I see. Thanks for the correction. Thomas
Re: How do I disable spews?
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 20:29 -0500, Brenda Bell wrote: I upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 this morning and all of a sudden, I can't send myself email from work because spews blacklisted an entire block of uunet addresses and my company is in the middle of the block. (side note: we do not spam and we fight it with every bit of technology we have). I've searched both local.cf and all of the rules files for spews and for the life of me, I can't figure out why my SA is checking spews. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Brenda Bell Liquid Machines The Freedom of Security http://www.liquidmachines.com Didn't SPEWS shut down and blacklist the world? Thomas
Re: How do I disable spews?
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 17:42, Thomas Cameron wrote: Didn't SPEWS shut down and blacklist the world? Thomas No. -- Robin Lynn Frank Director of Operations (0 0)Paradigm-Omega, LLC V http://www.paradigm-omega.com/ = Infinite spamtraps at http://paradigm-omega.net/cgi-bin/custmail.cgi = And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a plowshare, he's going to know he's been hit.
How do I disable spews?
I upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 this morning and all of a sudden, I can't send myself email from work because spews blacklisted an entire block of uunet addresses and my company is in the middle of the block. (side note: we do not spam and we fight it with every bit of technology we have). I've searched both local.cf and all of the rules files for spews and for the life of me, I can't figure out why my SA is checking spews. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Brenda Bell Liquid Machines The Freedom of Security http://www.liquidmachines.com
Re: How do I disable spews?
On Thursday, December 23, 2004, 5:29:23 PM, Brenda Bell wrote: I upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 this morning and all of a sudden, I can't send myself email from work because spews blacklisted an entire block of uunet addresses and my company is in the middle of the block. (side note: we do not spam and we fight it with every bit of technology we have). I've searched both local.cf and all of the rules files for spews and for the life of me, I can't figure out why my SA is checking spews. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Brenda Bell Liquid Machines The Freedom of Security http://www.liquidmachines.com Don't use SPEWS. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
Re: How do I disable spews?
Brenda Bell wrote: I upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 this morning and all of a sudden, I can't send myself email from work because spews blacklisted an entire block of uunet addresses and my company is in the middle of the block. (side note: we do not spam and we fight it with every bit of technology we have). I've searched both local.cf and all of the rules files for spews and for the life of me, I can't figure out why my SA is checking spews. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Brenda, how are you calling SpamAssassin? SA only tags mail that scores as spam, it doesn't (in and of itself) do any rejection or movement of mail . Another piece of the puzzle has to do those sort of things. Chances are if your mail is being rejected (5xx errors), then there's something in your MTA configuration that's checking SPEWS and rejecting based on its results. (which I personally feel isn't such a great tactic for just THIS reason) you should check that out, but considering the lack of any useful information, we can't offer you any further assistance. alan
Re: How do I disable spews?
Brenda Bell wrote: I've searched both local.cf and all of the rules files for spews and for the life of me, I can't figure out why my SA is checking spews. Could someone please point me in the right direction? From what I can tell, spews isn't in the standard SpamAssassin config, so the timing is probably coincidental. - Are you running any other spam filtering? Directly checking DNSBLs through sendmail/postfix/etc, or through something like MIMEDefang or Amavis? - Are you certain that was the system that blocked your mail? It may have been at the other end or somewhere in between. -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net
Re: How do I disable spews?
On Thursday, December 23, 2004, 5:52:40 PM, Jeff Chan wrote: On Thursday, December 23, 2004, 5:29:23 PM, Brenda Bell wrote: I upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 this morning and all of a sudden, I can't send myself email from work because spews blacklisted an entire block of uunet addresses and my company is in the middle of the block. (side note: we do not spam and we fight it with every bit of technology we have). I've searched both local.cf and all of the rules files for spews and for the life of me, I can't figure out why my SA is checking spews. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Brenda Bell Liquid Machines The Freedom of Security http://www.liquidmachines.com Don't use SPEWS. Clarification: I don't see spews in the default SA DNSBL rules: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/rules/20_dnsbl_tests.cf So perhaps the checking is in your MTA? Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
Re: How do I disable spews?
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:56:27 +0900 alan premselaar wrote: Chances are if your mail is being rejected (5xx errors), then there's something in your MTA configuration that's checking SPEWS and rejecting based on its results. (which I personally feel isn't such a great tactic for just THIS reason) I have qmail configured to check only relays.ordb.org and bl.spamcop.net -- I intentionally avoid spews specifically because of its reputation and listing policy. However, I did misinterpret the bounce message. What it said was this: There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server. Please contact your system administrator. smtp;554 Service unavailable; Client host [65.244.125.66] blocked using l1.spews.dnsbl.sorbs.net; ! [1] Reinertsen, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1519 So... the message was rejected because of the SPEWS zone at SORBS. The weird thing is this: I sent myself another message this morning and it came right through. So I'll have to assume that some interim hop blocked yesterday's message and I certainly can't do anything about that. It's times like this when all I can do is curse Microsoft for hiding everything I need to track down why this happened. Thanks to everyone who responded for their suggestions. Brenda Bell Liquid Machines The Freedom of Security http://www.liquidmachines.com