Re: How to shut down
I know my SA works buy bayes doesnt. I get msgs marked as spam with score over 5.0 but i have never seen autolearn=spam or ham. I get only autolearn=no or autolearn=failed. Here is the question: after i run sa-learn --clear and lets say that in my conf file i hava bayes min ham and spam learnset to 10(deafult 200). Does this mean that until i feed sa with spam and ham 10 of each at least it will not use bayes ?or it means that it won't use bayes until it has at least in its database and its learning from every single msg marked as spam ?? - Original Message - From: Pierre Thomson To: Michael ; users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down Michael, For me, the quickest way to get Bayes going is with auto_learn. (NOTE: you have to have your other rules working pretty well for this to be effective.) I use: bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.0bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 12.0bayes_auto_learn 1 Emails scoring below zero (mostly outboundor whitelisted mail) are learned as ham; emails scoring over 12 are learned as spam. On our gateway (10,000 messages per day) I can re-train Bayes from scratch in an hour or so. Then I feed it any false negatives to learn as spam, and any false positives withhigh Bayes scores as ham. The latter case is pretty rare. I never feed large batches to sa-learn, and since I'm running SA under MailScanner the Bayes rebuilds are automatic. Good luck Pierre Thomson BIC -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:52 PMTo: Bret Miller; users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Re: How to shut down and eveyrthing is working fast like before. What is the best way to feed the bayes with spam considering that there is no mail kept at the server? All users download their mail and thats it.The spamassassin is marking spamsover 5.0 butwhenit wants to autolearn it says failed(I assume that because the rest of the time it says autolearn=no). Now i know that bayes has0 in its database and i wantto feeditwith some spam so it can start learning.Please sugest some ways tofeed spam into bayes.(do i have to prepare it somehow?) - Original Message - From: Bret Miller To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down I'd run "sa-learn --force-expire"and see if that helps the speed a bit. From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:24 PMTo: Sander Holthaus - Orange XLCc: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Re: How to shut down The whole thing is that yesterday i did sa-learn spam with spam folder and today the server is runing very slowely now. Emails from to local users take about 3 hours to deliver. I`m runing RH 9.2 with postfix and spamassassin 3.0.4. I know i can kill processes but every time i try to kill spamd its still there. Then when i try service spamd stop it gives me a msg that INET socket is already running. I thought if i stop spamassassin competly from running maybe the mail will work fast again. I have only about 20 email account on the server and 20 domain aliases so there is not too much traffic at all. I have non stop stuff coming tom y server for the accounts that are not here and i know this is slowing it down a bit but at this time is runnng very poorly. - Original Message - From: Sander Holthaus - Orange XL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down That might be a little overkill though it does the job ;-) Stopping runningthings on *nix platforms is generally done by killing them, along withtheir children. "man kill" will teach you how. Programs that start when during boot usually have special scripts to both start and stop them, your best option is to use them. Where they live depends on your platform and distribution, use the supplied documentation, the man command and google to find out exactly where. If you don't want it to run at all at bootup, disable the script (various ways of doing that). Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus PS: Never turn on things for which you don't know
Re: How to shut down
I know my SA works buy bayes doesnt. I get msgs marked as spam with score over 5.0 but i have never seen autolearn=spam or ham. I get only autolearn=no or autolearn=failed. Here is the question: after i run sa-learn --clear and lets say that in my conf file i hava bayes min ham and spam learn set to 10(deafult 200). Does this mean that until i feed sa with spam and ham 10 of each at least it will not use bayes ?or it means that it won't use bayes until it has at least in its database and its learning from every single msg marked as spam ?? Have you tried running spamassassin -D --lint yet? = Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator Information Technology Services (250) 561-5848 local 448 --- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. Anti-spam information for CNC can be found at http://avas.cnc.bc.ca ---
Re: How to shut down
I know my SA works buy bayes doesnt. I get msgs marked as spam with score over 5.0 but i have never seen autolearn=spam or ham. I get only autolearn=no or autolearn=failed. Here is the question: after i run sa-learn --clear and lets say that in my conf file i hava bayes min ham and spam learn set to 10(deafult 200). Does this mean that until i feed sa with spam and ham 10 of each at least it will not use bayes ? Yes. Of course it may not work well with only 20 messages to look at, which is why the 200 limit was picked. Loren
How to shut down
How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
RE: How to shut down
Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
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That might be a little overkill though it does the job ;-) Stopping runningthings on *nix platforms is generally done by killing them, along withtheir children. "man kill" will teach you how. Programs that start when during boot usually have special scripts to both start and stop them, your best option is to use them. Where they live depends on your platform and distribution, use the supplied documentation, the man command and google to find out exactly where. If you don't want it to run at all at bootup, disable the script (various ways of doing that). Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus PS: Never turn on things for which you don't know how to turn them off. From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: RE: How to shut down Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
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On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: Thinking of you, Tom Cruise You owe me for the can of soda I just sprayed on my desk. Good times... -Original Message- From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ?? What operating system are you running SA on? How is it being called within your mail path? We can't help you if you don't help us. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mrchuckles.net
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Steven Dickenson wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: Thinking of you, Tom Cruise You owe me for the can of soda I just sprayed on my desk. Good times... How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ?? What operating system are you running SA on? How is it being called within your mail path? We can't help you if you don't help us. I think you meant Help me, help you! Jay -- Jay Lee Network / Systems Administrator Information Technology Dept. Philadelphia Biblical University --
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On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Jay Lee wrote: I think you meant Help me, help you! You had me at hello... Wait, what list is this again? :) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mrchuckles.net
Re: How to shut down
Look at /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin (at least on the Linux I am using ). /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin start - starts it up manually /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin stop -manually shuts it down /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin restart - cycles it ( off then on again) to pick up changes to config files Remove /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin if you do NOT want it to start on system boot. On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message- From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ?? Dr. Robert Young ALI Database Consultants 1151 Williams Dr Aiken SC 29803 USA WWW: http://www.aliconsultants.com Tele: 1-803-648-5931 Toll free in US: 1-866-257-8970 Fax:1-803-641-0345 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source of Rdb Controller, software for database analysis performance tuning
Re: How to shut down
The whole thing is that yesterday i did sa-learn spam with spam folder and today the server is runing very slowely now. Emails from to local users take about 3 hours to deliver. I`m runing RH 9.2 with postfix and spamassassin 3.0.4. I know i can kill processes but every time i try to kill spamd its still there. Then when i try service spamd stop it gives me a msg that INET socket is already running. I thought if i stop spamassassin competly from running maybe the mail will work fast again. I have only about 20 email account on the server and 20 domain aliases so there is not too much traffic at all. I have non stop stuff coming tom y server for the accounts that are not here and i know this is slowing it down a bit but at this time is runnng very poorly. - Original Message - From: Sander Holthaus - Orange XL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down That might be a little overkill though it does the job ;-) Stopping runningthings on *nix platforms is generally done by killing them, along withtheir children. "man kill" will teach you how. Programs that start when during boot usually have special scripts to both start and stop them, your best option is to use them. Where they live depends on your platform and distribution, use the supplied documentation, the man command and google to find out exactly where. If you don't want it to run at all at bootup, disable the script (various ways of doing that). Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus PS: Never turn on things for which you don't know how to turn them off. From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: RE: How to shut down Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
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I'd run "sa-learn --force-expire"and see if that helps the speed a bit. From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:24 PMTo: Sander Holthaus - Orange XLCc: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Re: How to shut down The whole thing is that yesterday i did sa-learn spam with spam folder and today the server is runing very slowely now. Emails from to local users take about 3 hours to deliver. I`m runing RH 9.2 with postfix and spamassassin 3.0.4. I know i can kill processes but every time i try to kill spamd its still there. Then when i try service spamd stop it gives me a msg that INET socket is already running. I thought if i stop spamassassin competly from running maybe the mail will work fast again. I have only about 20 email account on the server and 20 domain aliases so there is not too much traffic at all. I have non stop stuff coming tom y server for the accounts that are not here and i know this is slowing it down a bit but at this time is runnng very poorly. - Original Message - From: Sander Holthaus - Orange XL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down That might be a little overkill though it does the job ;-) Stopping runningthings on *nix platforms is generally done by killing them, along withtheir children. "man kill" will teach you how. Programs that start when during boot usually have special scripts to both start and stop them, your best option is to use them. Where they live depends on your platform and distribution, use the supplied documentation, the man command and google to find out exactly where. If you don't want it to run at all at bootup, disable the script (various ways of doing that). Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus PS: Never turn on things for which you don't know how to turn them off. From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: RE: How to shut down Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
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since i have installed this system not long time ago. i did sa-learn --clear.Then i did sa-learn --sync - Original Message - From: Bret Miller To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down I'd run "sa-learn --force-expire"and see if that helps the speed a bit. From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:24 PMTo: Sander Holthaus - Orange XLCc: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Re: How to shut down The whole thing is that yesterday i did sa-learn spam with spam folder and today the server is runing very slowely now. Emails from to local users take about 3 hours to deliver. I`m runing RH 9.2 with postfix and spamassassin 3.0.4. I know i can kill processes but every time i try to kill spamd its still there. Then when i try service spamd stop it gives me a msg that INET socket is already running. I thought if i stop spamassassin competly from running maybe the mail will work fast again. I have only about 20 email account on the server and 20 domain aliases so there is not too much traffic at all. I have non stop stuff coming tom y server for the accounts that are not here and i know this is slowing it down a bit but at this time is runnng very poorly. - Original Message - From: Sander Holthaus - Orange XL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down That might be a little overkill though it does the job ;-) Stopping runningthings on *nix platforms is generally done by killing them, along withtheir children. "man kill" will teach you how. Programs that start when during boot usually have special scripts to both start and stop them, your best option is to use them. Where they live depends on your platform and distribution, use the supplied documentation, the man command and google to find out exactly where. If you don't want it to run at all at bootup, disable the script (various ways of doing that). Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus PS: Never turn on things for which you don't know how to turn them off. From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: RE: How to shut down Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
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and eveyrthing is working fast like before. What is the best way to feed the bayes with spam considering that there is no mail kept at the server? All users download their mail and thats it.The spamassassin is marking spamsover 5.0 butwhenit wants to autolearn it says failed(I assume that because the rest of the time it says autolearn=no). Now i know that bayes has0 in its database and i wantto feeditwith some spam so it can start learning.Please sugest some ways tofeed spam into bayes.(do i have to prepare it somehow?) - Original Message - From: Bret Miller To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down I'd run "sa-learn --force-expire"and see if that helps the speed a bit. From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:24 PMTo: Sander Holthaus - Orange XLCc: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Re: How to shut down The whole thing is that yesterday i did sa-learn spam with spam folder and today the server is runing very slowely now. Emails from to local users take about 3 hours to deliver. I`m runing RH 9.2 with postfix and spamassassin 3.0.4. I know i can kill processes but every time i try to kill spamd its still there. Then when i try service spamd stop it gives me a msg that INET socket is already running. I thought if i stop spamassassin competly from running maybe the mail will work fast again. I have only about 20 email account on the server and 20 domain aliases so there is not too much traffic at all. I have non stop stuff coming tom y server for the accounts that are not here and i know this is slowing it down a bit but at this time is runnng very poorly. - Original Message - From: Sander Holthaus - Orange XL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down That might be a little overkill though it does the job ;-) Stopping runningthings on *nix platforms is generally done by killing them, along withtheir children. "man kill" will teach you how. Programs that start when during boot usually have special scripts to both start and stop them, your best option is to use them. Where they live depends on your platform and distribution, use the supplied documentation, the man command and google to find out exactly where. If you don't want it to run at all at bootup, disable the script (various ways of doing that). Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus PS: Never turn on things for which you don't know how to turn them off. From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: RE: How to shut down Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
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Michael, For me, the quickest way to get Bayes going is with auto_learn. (NOTE: you have to have your other rules working pretty well for this to be effective.) I use: bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.0bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 12.0bayes_auto_learn 1 Emails scoring below zero (mostly outboundor whitelisted mail) are learned as ham; emails scoring over 12 are learned as spam. On our gateway (10,000 messages per day) I can re-train Bayes from scratch in an hour or so. Then I feed it any false negatives to learn as spam, and any false positives withhigh Bayes scores as ham. The latter case is pretty rare. I never feed large batches to sa-learn, and since I'm running SA under MailScanner the Bayes rebuilds are automatic. Good luck Pierre Thomson BIC -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:52 PMTo: Bret Miller; users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Re: How to shut down and eveyrthing is working fast like before. What is the best way to feed the bayes with spam considering that there is no mail kept at the server? All users download their mail and thats it.The spamassassin is marking spamsover 5.0 butwhenit wants to autolearn it says failed(I assume that because the rest of the time it says autolearn=no). Now i know that bayes has0 in its database and i wantto feeditwith some spam so it can start learning.Please sugest some ways tofeed spam into bayes.(do i have to prepare it somehow?) - Original Message - From: Bret Miller To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down I'd run "sa-learn --force-expire"and see if that helps the speed a bit. From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:24 PMTo: Sander Holthaus - Orange XLCc: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Re: How to shut down The whole thing is that yesterday i did sa-learn spam with spam folder and today the server is runing very slowely now. Emails from to local users take about 3 hours to deliver. I`m runing RH 9.2 with postfix and spamassassin 3.0.4. I know i can kill processes but every time i try to kill spamd its still there. Then when i try service spamd stop it gives me a msg that INET socket is already running. I thought if i stop spamassassin competly from running maybe the mail will work fast again. I have only about 20 email account on the server and 20 domain aliases so there is not too much traffic at all. I have non stop stuff coming tom y server for the accounts that are not here and i know this is slowing it down a bit but at this time is runnng very poorly. - Original Message - From: Sander Holthaus - Orange XL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: How to shut down That might be a little overkill though it does the job ;-) Stopping runningthings on *nix platforms is generally done by killing them, along withtheir children. "man kill" will teach you how. Programs that start when during boot usually have special scripts to both start and stop them, your best option is to use them. Where they live depends on your platform and distribution, use the supplied documentation, the man command and google to find out exactly where. If you don't want it to run at all at bootup, disable the script (various ways of doing that). Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus PS: Never turn on things for which you don't know how to turn them off. From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: RE: How to shut down Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message-From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ??
Re: How to shut down
RTFM
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Doctor? Database Consultant? Er, you should know better, Robert. {o.o} chkconfig spamassassin off Do not remove the file from init.d, ever. Nor is it safe generally speaking to remove the rcX.d/SMMspamassassin files. It's best to use the proper configuration tools. And - this particular advice is something I know works on Mandrake 10.1 and all RedHat releases I've used as well as the FC4 I am using. Your approach is rather ham handed for a professional, doncha think? {^_^} Joanne - Original Message - From: Dr Robert Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look at /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin (at least on the Linux I am using ). /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin start - starts it up manually /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin stop -manually shuts it down /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin restart - cycles it ( off then on again) to pick up changes to config files Remove /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamassassin if you do NOT want it to start on system boot. On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: Unplug the power to the server. If that fails, I assume you would need to contact the person that set it up. You sysadmin could allow all your email to come thru without being scanned. I hope that helps, Thinking of you, Tom Cruise -Original Message- From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:48 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: How to shut down How to shut down the spamassassin? so it doesnt run ?? Dr. Robert Young ALI Database Consultants 1151 Williams Dr Aiken SC 29803 USA WWW: http://www.aliconsultants.com Tele: 1-803-648-5931 Toll free in US: 1-866-257-8970 Fax:1-803-641-0345 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source of Rdb Controller, software for database analysis performance tuning
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service spamassassin stop Get the name right. It really helps. {^_^} - Original Message - From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole thing is that yesterday i did sa-learn spam with spam folder and today the server is runing very slowely now. Emails from to local users take about 3 hours to deliver. I`m runing RH 9.2 with postfix and spamassassin 3.0.4. I know i can kill processes but every time i try to kill spamd its still there. Then when i try service spamd stop it gives me a msg that INET socket is already running. I thought if i stop spamassassin competly from running maybe the mail will work fast again. I have only about 20 email account on the server and 20 domain aliases so there is not too much traffic at all. I have non stop stuff coming tom y server for the accounts that are not here and i know this is slowing it down a bit but at this time is runnng very poorly.