Re: MailScanner versus Amavisd-new with postfix

2006-10-27 Thread Martin Hepworth

Jeff Chan wrote:

Not to start any flamewars, but does anyone have strong opinions
on MailScanner versus Amavisd-new for use with postfix (and of
course SpamAssassin and ClamAV)?

In the old days it seemed Amavisd-new may have integrated better
with postfix, but is that no longer the case?  Some folks say
MailScanner is faster and leaner.

What gives?

Jeff C.

Jeff

can't say I've compared the two, but I run MailScanner and it does have 
a couple of neat features recently - it's own MD5 cache of recent spam 
which speeds things up alot, and the inbuilt phishing testing (yeah ok 
this has been in a while).


it also glues  SA, 12 anti-virus engines, and it's own tests (like 
executables which has saved me a few times before the av people have 
updates).


horses for courses, but it's nice to have a choice of amavis-new OR 
MailScanner.


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RE: MailScanner versus Amavisd-new with postfix

2006-10-27 Thread Dan Horne
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:54 AM
 To: SpamAssassin Users
 Subject: MailScanner versus Amavisd-new with postfix
 
 Not to start any flamewars, but does anyone have strong 
 opinions on MailScanner versus Amavisd-new for use with 
 postfix (and of course SpamAssassin and ClamAV)?
 
 In the old days it seemed Amavisd-new may have integrated 
 better with postfix, but is that no longer the case?  Some 
 folks say MailScanner is faster and leaner.
 
 What gives?
 
 Jeff C.
 --
 Jeff Chan
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.surbl.org/
 
 

Wietse Venema says that MailScanner uses unsupported methods to
manipulate the queue that could (and has) lead to lost email.  I don't
know the full details, but it has been discussed much on the postfix
list.  My impression is that the condition is rare, but it does happen.

Just a heads up.

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RE: MailScanner versus Amavisd-new with postfix

2006-10-27 Thread Kurt Buff
note: I don't use mailscanner, so am only relaying what I saw on the postfix
list.

My understanding (based on foggy memory - search the list archives for a
better answer) is that MailScanner dipped into postfix queues using either
undocumented postfix APIs or by bypassing postfix entirely and directly
manipulating files on disk. This led to instances of documented mail loss.
Wietse therefore said that it wasn't safe to use.

I've also recently read (I believe also on the postfix list, but am not
sure) that MailScanner has remedied this behavior, and that it is now safe
to use with postfix, but you'll need to confirm for yourself if that is
true.

Kurt

| -Original Message-
| From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 06:54
| To: SpamAssassin Users
| Subject: MailScanner versus Amavisd-new with postfix
| 
| 
| Not to start any flamewars, but does anyone have strong opinions
| on MailScanner versus Amavisd-new for use with postfix (and of
| course SpamAssassin and ClamAV)?
| 
| In the old days it seemed Amavisd-new may have integrated better
| with postfix, but is that no longer the case?  Some folks say
| MailScanner is faster and leaner.
| 
| What gives?
| 
| Jeff C.
| -- 
| Jeff Chan
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.surbl.org/
| 


  



Re: MailScanner versus Amavisd-new with postfix

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Martinec
Jeff,

 Not to start any flamewars, but does anyone have strong opinions
 on MailScanner versus Amavisd-new for use with postfix (and of
 course SpamAssassin and ClamAV)?

Of course I'm biased, but I'd be worried running program with
about 400 cases of calling system routines (I/O, file system, etc.)
without checking resulting status or failing to report errors.
MailScanner works while everything is in order. When unexpected
happens (e.g. disk full, I/O or file system errors, depleted system 
resources), then unpredictable things are bound to result, and
possibly go by unnoticed for some time or prove difficult to diagnose.

  Mark