RE: Ham not auto-learning?
That sounds about right. I did get those thresholds from somewhere on this list, though, I believe. No biggie. Bayes has been pretty spot on so far (I can post the rules chart if anyone is interested.), so I'm pretty confident in allowing it to continue to learn. Thanks for your help. -- Matthew Yette Senior Engineer - NOC/Operations MA Polce Consulting, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 315-838-1644 (w) 315-356-0597 (f) AIM/Yahoo: MAPolceNOC MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Craig McLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:31 PM To: Matthew Yette Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Ham not auto-learning? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Yette wrote: | Running the sa-stats.pl version 0.9 that produces a chart with stats | on what rules are hit for spam and ham most frequently, I notice that | of all 13,411 autolearns performed, every one of them was for spam. | Ham has 0 messages autolearned. Wouldn't, for example, a message that | comes in and has been whitelisted (and therefore scoring ~ -100) be autolearned? | My bayes thresholds are set for 12.1 (spam) and -12.0(ham). Matthew, If I recall correctly, bayes learning thresholds are compared against a message score *before* whitelist adjustments are made, so unless a message scores -12 using just the standard rules (unlikely) it will never be learned as ham. Just set the ham threshold to 0 and you'll see any message hitting no positive scoring tests being learned as ham. Regards, Craig. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDBiVFMDDagS2VwJ4RAkBVAJ9IHh/KpJ3uZRG+pZYQ7Mo77cPiaQCgvEOw F4d9wRpAt5ZHl2jHGfSE7RQ= =cXb8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Ham not auto-learning?
I'm going to guess that whitelist isn't taken into consideration. -12 for autolearning of ham is pretty extreme, I'm not surprised you aren't seeing any autolearning. The default is .1 On Aug 19, 2005, at 1:24 PM, Matthew Yette wrote: Running the sa-stats.pl version 0.9 that produces a chart with stats on what rules are hit for spam and ham most frequently, I notice that of all 13,411 autolearns performed, every one of them was for spam. Ham has 0 messages autolearned. Wouldn't, for example, a message that comes in and has been whitelisted (and therefore scoring ~ -100) be autolearned? My bayes thresholds are set for 12.1 (spam) and -12.0(ham). -- Matthew Yette Senior Engineer - NOC/Operations MA Polce Consulting, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 315-838-1644 (w) 315-356-0597 (f) AIM/Yahoo: MAPolceNOC MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve Martin http://www.cheezmo.com/ Smart Calibration, LLC http://www.smartcalibration.com/ The Widescreen Movie Centerhttp://www.widemovies.com/ Letterboxed Movie TV Schedule http://www.widemovies.com/lbx.html
Re: Ham not auto-learning?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Yette wrote: | Running the sa-stats.pl version 0.9 that produces a chart with stats on | what rules are hit for spam and ham most frequently, I notice that of | all 13,411 autolearns performed, every one of them was for spam. Ham has | 0 messages autolearned. Wouldn't, for example, a message that comes in | and has been whitelisted (and therefore scoring ~ -100) be autolearned? | My bayes thresholds are set for 12.1 (spam) and -12.0(ham). Matthew, If I recall correctly, bayes learning thresholds are compared against a message score *before* whitelist adjustments are made, so unless a message scores -12 using just the standard rules (unlikely) it will never be learned as ham. Just set the ham threshold to 0 and you'll see any message hitting no positive scoring tests being learned as ham. Regards, Craig. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDBiVFMDDagS2VwJ4RAkBVAJ9IHh/KpJ3uZRG+pZYQ7Mo77cPiaQCgvEOw F4d9wRpAt5ZHl2jHGfSE7RQ= =cXb8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
