Re: How to setup things. Novices with no or little mastery of computers.
Hello Don, You are correct. SpamAssassin is an open source project which performs rather specific and technical functions, and in order for it to work correctly it needs people with rather specific and technical knowledge to apply it. If you do not have the minimum technical knowledge required to understand the how-to instructions available, then you should not be using SpamAssassin itself -- you should be using one of the commercial packages which use SpamAssassin internally, but which shield you from needing to know those technical specifics. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CommercialProducts Bob Menschel Saturday, March 5, 2005, 3:28:03 AM, you wrote: DS You have no or little mastery of computers even though you read email DS with emacs rmail. Spamassassin headers are appearing on your messages. DS How do you setup things if you have no or only very little mastery of DS making dotfiles?... DS Spamassassin instructional information around the web makes use of DS jargon and arcane references that make it a research project for DS people with no or little mastery just to get through the instructional DS information !
Re: How to setup things. Novices with no or little mastery of computers.
Don Saklad wrote: You have no or little mastery of computers even though you read email with emacs rmail. Spamassassin headers are appearing on your messages. How are those spamassassin headers showing up in your messages? Someone must have configured it for you. If not you then your ISP is very likely using spamassassin to classify email. Talk to them. How do you setup things if you have no or only very little mastery of making dotfiles?... You can't. A basic level of knowledge is required. If you have that knowledge, as you imply by saying you read mail with emacs rmail, then you should have no trouble understanding and creating, for example, procmail rules to file your mail after having been classified by spamassassin. If you feel you do not have this level of capability then I suggest you find help from the people who set up spamassassin for you. If they are offering spamassassin then perhaps they are also offering support for other aspects of mail handling. If you are looking specifically for emacs rmail help then I suggest looking to the emacs mailing lists. For example I use emacs but do not use emacs rmail mode. (I used to use emacs vm (view mail) mode. But now I am use mutt. I don't have emacs rmail knowledge to share.) Spamassassin instructional information around the web makes use of jargon and arcane references that make it a research project for people with no or little mastery just to get through the instructional information ! SpamAssassin is a free software project maintained by a group of people across the Internet. People volunteer their time and resources to make this project available. We find it extremely useful and continue to contribute to it. However you are not required to use it. If you find it something that is not usable by you at this time then you should not use it. I am sorry but the tone of your message implies that you think you deserve something that does not exist. Bob
Re: How to setup things. Novices with no or little mastery of computers.
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Bob Proulx wrote: Don Saklad wrote: Spamassassin instructional information around the web makes use of jargon and arcane references that make it a research project for people with no or little mastery just to get through the instructional information ! SpamAssassin is a free software project maintained by a group of people across the Internet. People volunteer their time and resources to make this project available. We find it extremely useful and continue to contribute to it. However you are not required to use it. If you find it something that is not usable by you at this time then you should not use it. I am sorry but the tone of your message implies that you think you deserve something that does not exist. Please do NOT feed the trolls, it only encourages them. This particular one has been killfiled all over Usenet for over a decade and so has turned to mailing lists. A quick Google or Usenet search will reveal it for what it is. ;) -- Dave Funk University of Iowa dbfunk (at) engineering.uiowa.eduCollege of Engineering 319/335-5751 FAX: 319/384-0549 1256 Seamans Center Sys_admin/Postmaster/cell_adminIowa City, IA 52242-1527 #include std_disclaimer.h Better is not better, 'standard' is better. B{
Re: How to setup things. Novices with no or little mastery of computers.
David B Funk wrote: This particular one has been killfiled all over Usenet for over a decade and so has turned to mailing lists. A quick Google or Usenet search will reveal it for what it is. ;) Wow. I have been living a sheltered life of late and have blissfully missed him. Google does show that he has been an active fellow. And reading several of his postings I can only agree with the troll classification. Sorry I fell prey to the posting today. Plonk! Bob